Dixie Kong's Barrel Of Support Spirits. Farewell Everyone, Thank You ALL For Making This Thread An Excellent Place For DK Fans!

[RetrogamerMax]

I think for Dixie's trailer they would do a montage of the female characters like Peach, Zelda, Palutena, Lucina, Daisy, etc, rather than villains.

They would also be able to reuse that montage with Dixie added at the end, just like they reused the Rool one for Banjo, if they wanted to add any other female character to a formerly 100% male represented series like Krystal for Star Fox or Chun-Li for Street Fighter.

I agree. But I think the DK gag will only be used for Rare created characters like Dixie, Krystal, Conker, ect since K. Rool and Banjo & Kazooie have been the only ones to have use the gag.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

I agree. But I think the DK gag will only be used for Rare created characters like Dixie, Krystal, Conker, ect since K. Rool and Banjo & Kazooie have been the only ones to have use the gag.

Oh yeah, if they reused that montage for Chun-Li or any non Rare character they definitely wouldn’t use the DK part again, just the montage.

 

[ChronoBound]

Spoiler: Comprehensive Analysis About Three Polls From 2014, 2018, and 2020 and How They Pertain to The Shifting Desires of the Smash Fanbase

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

That's some fantastic analysis ChronoBound and it really illustrates why so many of us lamented that Bandana Dee, Dixie, Isaac, Krystal, etc didn't get in prior to Ultimate because the emphasis on the newcomer DLC has been either third parties and newer first parties so much that any of them just don't feel all that likely.

I think for some of us its a additionally unfortunate because it feels endemic of a broader pattern with certain Nintendo franchises essentially falling by the wayside. Donkey Kong Country has fared best with a whopping two new games in the last 10 years, Paper Mario is irrevocably changed from what it was, Star Fox has been mishandled into irrelevancy, and the likes of Golden Sun or F-Zero are outright dead. One of the reasons getting some of those characters in Smash was so significant to people was that even if their inclusion didn't necessarily spark a revival or rehabilitation of them was that at least it would grant them some relevancy and time in the spotlight again. A Bandana Dee won't go away any time soon, but I can't safely say the same for others.

 

[Dinoman96]

Yeah, Nintendo has pretty much devalued interest and excitement in their own characters and IPs as far as Smash is concerned. It kinda make sense, as sad as it sounds: why put in a fourth stringer Star Fox or WarioWare character when you could instead put in big name third parties like Cloud, Sephiroth, Steve, etc and make the internet go crazy?

It's definitely gonna get harder and harder for smaller Nintendo characters/series from here on out, especially now with Sephiroth basically opening the door for even more big third party characters like Eggman and Chun-Li in the future.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Yeah, Nintendo has pretty much devalued interest and excitement in their own characters and IPs as far as Smash is concerned. It kinda make sense, as sad as it sounds: why put in a fourth stringer Star Fox or WarioWare character when you could instead put in big name third parties like Cloud, Sephiroth, Steve, etc and make the internet go crazy?

It's definitely gonna get harder and harder for smaller Nintendo characters/series from here on out,, especially now with Sephiroth basically opening the door for even more big third party characters like Eggman and Chun-Li in the future.

While I'm acceptable of 3rd party reps even secondary ones like Sephiroth, I still majorly prefer Nintendo characters as I grew up with mostly Nintendo games. Honestly, I think the whole base game newcomer lineup should just be Nintendo reps while the whole DLC lineup could just be 3rd party reps. That way these 3rd party developers can get their while Nintendo fans like us can get more of our favorites in the base game. Sure, I would love for the newcomer lineup to be 3/4 Nintendo reps, but the Melee and Brawl days though are over. I just pray we never get a non video game character in Smash as they would make things even worse for us Nintendo fans who prefer Nintendo characters.

 

[Justin Little]

It's the lack of mainline DK games which is the contributing factor Dixie keeps falling down in the polls. I remember Diddy being lower than usual in the polls during the Melee and Brawl days simply due to the lack of major titles (and the way RARE properties were treated during that era). Sure Diddy was lucky enough to be included in Mario Sports titles, but it's nothing compared to being in a mainline title.

I don't know what the hell Nintendo was doing during the Wii U days. After Tropical Freeze released, you think they would have plans set in motion to promote the damn game. Dixie in Smash For would've probably helped, but nah let's reveal Little Mac instead. How about putting her in Mario Kart 8? Nah, hell we'll take Diddy Kong out of the game too. Alright, the least you could do is put her in Mario Maker as one of the costumes right? Nope. Shaun the Sheep, Baby Metal, and literal vomit from Earthbound are more worth the effort.

I know people will mention the location distances between Retro and Nintendo, and that plans are set years ahead of time, but Tropical Freeze was one of their biggest games that year. It's just strange to me despite those hurdles. Is communication between Retro from Texas and Nintendo from Japan really that bad that it hindered a major title like TF? If the rumor is true, perhaps that is one reason why the new DK is being made in-house.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Hopefully if Dixie doesn't make it into Ultimate she will have a huge supporting fanbase in Smash 6 bigger than the one right now since K. Rool and Banjo & Kazooie are already out of her way.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

A lot of this is just a general fallout of Nintendo being inconsistent/slow in embracing the Rare elements of DKC that were so popular even to now. I've speculated before that after Rare's departure that Nintendo attempted to somewhat rebrand the DK series in their experiments like Donkey Konga and Jungle Beat. The relative modest success those games in comparison to how big the 90s games were (to the point where some of them were getting outsold by decade old DKC ports on the GBA) put an end to much of that, but even then DK has felt mishandled in its reach, and the Country sub brand especially.

The DK vs. Mario subseries is a good example of that. They're some decent titles and no doubt have an audience, but in the broader gaming landscape they've left virtually no significant impact. There's no strong clamoring of their elements to get into games like Smash in comparison to others and among both the Mario and DK fandoms, they're rarely brought up. I don't say this because I feel like attacking a series that likely wasn't meant to do huge numbers to begin with, just to highlight that Nintendo (and a core development team at that) had no problem consistently putting a relatively niche puzzle platformer release with DK several times over a 12 year period, yet seemed unwilling to even attempt a mainline platformer (or even any type of Country spin-off) without handing it off to Retro.

Basically its hard to escape a sense that Nintendo sees DK's IP in a specific way and will put out new content for it if it fits that vision versus a lot of dragging of feet if the game is outside that vision. Of the nine Donkey Kong oriented platformer games that have come out in the last 20 years (Jungle Beat, GBA Trilogy, Jungle Beat Wii, DKC Returns, DKC Returns 3D, Tropical Freeze, Tropical Freeze Switch) six of them were ports of older titles. Outside Mario vs. DK, there's not been a single spin-off in the last decade.

Nintendo will certainly put the Country name to use for re-releases (because whatever brand efforts there have been these past two decades it is the one that sells), but going big and bold with it in terms of new titles, or even elements within existing games like Mario Kart or Mario Party? There's very little sign of that.

 

[Dinoman96]

It's very apparent that Donkey Kong Country just isn't really apart of Nintendo's cultural DNA in the same way stuff like Mario, Zelda, Splatoon and Animal Crossing are. DKC is really the kind of series that needs an external dedicated developer behind it, just as series like Kirby and Fire Emblem have with HAL Labs and Intelligent Systems respectively...or well, how DK use to with Rare back in the 90s. But obviously they're gone now. And now the series will probably never reach the heights of what it did in the 90s again.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

It terms of almost being a very public face of Nintendo like Mario (and Yoshi) were in the mid 90s, yeah that's not likely to happen great games or not given how big Pokémon and Zelda now are. But even a very prominent presence seems more of a pipe dream as time goes on given the company's focus elsewhere and that they don't have much interest or understanding towards building upon where most fan interest in the series lies.

 

[Justin Little]

With the DK theme park underway at Universal Japan, Nintendo are at least attempting to put DK back in the forefront. Whether it will succeed, let's hope so.

Speaking of the theme park, I remember reading park goers would be able to interact with a talking animatronic at the DK area. I think it was referring to Squawks, but how cool would it be if the Kongs had voices. They've already experimented it with Zelda. I could easily see them doing it with DK too.

 

[cybersai]

I mean what it really comes down to is neglecting the DK franchise since Melee. Diddy Kong really should have been in Melee and it's baffling he wasn't considered at the time. Remember Melee came out in 2001, right after the DKC trilogy, Diddy Kong Racing and Donkey Kong 64. Hell Melee came out only 1 year after DK64 in 2000.

If we had gotten Diddy in Melee, then Dixie probably would have been considered for Brawl. K. Rool probably still wouldn't have gotten in till the ballot and demand for him between Smash U and Ultimate was a thing though.

But yeah, it all comes down to the Melee/Brawl era where Dixie got screwed over the most.

 

[Jurae818]

ChronoBound Great post! You summed up everything I felt about Smash starting with Snake but you managed to bring up another point with Cloud: If Snake opened the door for 3rd parties, Cloud kicked it in. Do you guys remember those fake rosters back in the Brawl days? All those 3rd parties littered among Nintendo faces? Now, those rosters are not so outlandish. Hell, look at Brawl modding and how far it's come; you can literally put all those outsiders on a Smash Roster alongside the Nintendo fare. Ultimate to me seems like a direct response to all those mods and Project M mainly and it's not surprising to see so many people push for 3rd parties. This is why the next game will piss a lot of people off, mainly those fans who came in due to the mutual relationship of their 3rd party series. At this point, it's just a matter of seeing what other 3rd party hype machine will grace Smash and everyone groaning at the actual Nintendo rep which may or may not be an advert, justifying their disdain.

With all the progress Brawl Modding made in the last few years, it wouldn't surprise me if Ultimate wasn't just Sakurai's way of trying to please everyone, but Nintendo themselves trying their hand to counter said modding scene by doing their own compilation of Smash, from newcomers like Simon and K. Rool to renowned relics like Young Link and Pichu in the context of Smash itself. Naturally, they can't really shut down these mods entirely but Ultimate didn't flop sales-wise. This is also why I'm not too mad about official Smash games neglecting Nintendo characters; if I have an alternative, I'm going to take it. It beats crying and regurgitating the same talking points to the same brick walls for the umpteenth time.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

That was some depressing talk/realizations.

Back to DKC3, finished my 1P file last night (will try to go through it with a friend online later), and I think where it really suffers is mostly the soundtrack compared to the first two games, not so much the level design. Kiddy is fun to use, and surprisingly faster than Dixie when you would think it'd be the other way around. I know he's typically crapped on for not being DK, but in gameplay Kiddy was in fact better designed than DK in the first game; filled that heavier Kong niche while being fast. People that couldn't get past his appearance won't admit as much though.

That said, DK himself going back to the forefront with 2D platforming was overdue and Retro was right to do that, but still unfortunate none of these other Kongs and lesser names will never be seen again. If Rare was still with us they would be, but y'know.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Some DKC3 streams coming out by GameXplain and Good Vibes Gaming!

 

[Dukemon102]

Took around two days to finish it due to how beefy the post-game is. It feels like the prototype of what would become the collectathon genre when you go for every item for the Brother Bears (Which needs bear coins), the Bonus Coins (I played with the Xmas code, I've never done it before), DK Coin and Banana Birds.

Kiddy has the same run speed as DK/Dixie and the same jump distance Diddy had in previous games. Making him a mix of DK and Diddy's best attributes and more valuable than many would think.

 

[Justin Little]

Thread of cool sprite sheets from the Super Nintendo World portion of the Universal Japan app. pic.twitter.com/RvyGLrd606

— Jack (@Wipeoutjack7) December 19, 2020

Here are some images datamined from the Super Nintendo World app. No Dixie unfortunately, but it looks like Rambi will more than likely make an appearance and finding Kong letters might be an activity at the play area.

Edit: Puzzle pieces as well. Missed that one.

 

[Vez]

I remember reading early on that Donkey Kong's family and friends would appear during the minecart ride, so I'd assume that's where Dixie would show up, along with Cranky and Funky.

Also as much as I wish Nintendo would acknowledge Dixie more, I'm so happy they seem to have at least fully embraced Diddy. He's one of the only non-EAD characters that seems to be treated like one of their own creations.

 

[Justin Little]

Funky is for sure going to be there considering Funky Flights is there. Aaand maybe Ellie the Elephant? It was quite weird to see her, of all animal buddies, in that diorama that was leaked. If she's indeed planned to be there, surely the more popular animal buddies like Enguarde and Squitter will be there too.

 

[Mariomaniac45213]

I love Returns for bringing back DKC but hate it at the same time as it seems its the only thing Nintendo seems to enjoy referencing. I hate the Tikis and lack of Kremlings, Kongs, and animal buddies. Will be really disappointed if DK portion in Super Nintendo World features no other Kongs besides the standard DK & Diddy or animal buddies besides Rambi. K.Rool and Kremlings probably have no chance in hell at appearing which is sad.

Its bittersweet cause as a kid having a Nintendo theme park was a dream come true and DK minecart ride was always the star attraction in my eyes. While we are getting that its surrounded by the DK I didnt grow up with. I get that Nintendo has to appeal to the newer crowd/kids but theme parks appeal to all age ranges and I just wish Nintendo would blend both the new and the old together so people of all ages can see what they loved growing up come to life.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

One thing to take into consideration is that as far as A-list Nintendo newcomers go, they are clearly running dry of them at this point. Nearly all the major characters are in, pretty much just had theirs done since Melee and mostly leaves out secondary and tertiary ones, Metroid is basically done (Sylux is essentially gravy should Prime 4 be done by the time FP2 ends), is in Sak's comfort zone until further notice, and more recent series got at least one of their required characters included.

If 4's ballot factors into anything, at least some of the newcomers for Smash 6 will pool from the players' suggestions, since there's nowhere else left to go other than more third parties (which gets more difficult the further they branch out for negotiations) or B/C-list Nintendo characters.

In the event that Retro or any other developer releases a new DKC in the meantime, that would further bolster the chances for more of the DK Crew to show up as playable in the future, especially if those that haven't been used in years make an official reappearance. Until then, it's important to keep up support for Dixie/Funky/Cranky.

But I think the DK gag will only be used for Rare created characters like Dixie, Krystal, Conker, ect since K. Rool and Banjo & Kazooie have been the only ones to have use the gag.

That sounds right. Same principle as the Square-Enix characters only showing up in SE character trailers (for legal reasons, in their case).

 

[Dinoman96]

I love Returns for bringing back DKC but hate it at the same time as it seems its the only thing Nintendo seems to enjoy referencing. I hate the Tikis and lack of Kremlings, Kongs, and animal buddies. Will be really disappointed if DK portion in Super Nintendo World features no other Kongs besides the standard DK & Diddy or animal buddies besides Rambi. K.Rool and Kremlings probably have no chance in hell at appearing which is sad.

Its bittersweet cause as a kid having a Nintendo theme park was a dream come true and DK minecart ride was always the star attraction in my eyes. While we are getting that its surrounded by the DK I didnt grow up with. I get that Nintendo has to appeal to the newer crowd/kids but theme parks appeal to all age ranges and I just wish Nintendo would blend both the new and the old together so people of all ages can see what they loved growing up come to life.

It's unfortunate but it does kinda make sense. Keep in mind Nintendo and Universal have been planning Super Nintendo World since 2015. The most relevant Mario/DK platformers at the time were 3D World and Retro's DKC games. Thus the Mario and DK segments in SNW draw from them heavily.

 

[Gengar84]

Dixie is one of my most wanted first party characters left. The only first party characters I want more are Impa, Medusa, and Elma. I would be really happy with Dixie’s inclusion.

 

[BirthNote]

Gengar84 is the newest member of the Barrel! Welcome inside. There's no section for Support Buddies in Super Nintendo World, BUT Smash Boards is a cozy spot lol.


I'll see myself out...

 

[ZeroJanitor]

Made a little something to celebrate DKC3 on the Switch, as well as the colder weather we're getting in the Northern Hemisphere (and the Northern Kremisphere)!

 

[Fatmanonice]

Just popping in real quick just to say that I feel the table is set really, really well for Donkey Kong going into 2021. DKC3 finally coming to the NSO and a buttload of DK stuff being datamined from the official Super Nintendo World app a few days ago just added more to the pile this month and someone brought to my attention last month that DK games and merch were greenlit for sale in China in mid November. All of these are pretty big deals in my opinion and like Kremling Kampaigner has said on Twitter multiple times since September: the writing is on the wall, whether people choose to see it or not. With that, I'll excuse myself back to my plane wreckage but say Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and I hope you all have a monkey filled 2021.

 

[Justin Little]

With all of the talk of something big happening for DK next year, it's going to be extremely aggravating and disappointing if they're working on some weird experimental spin-off 2D game and not an ambitious 3D DK or DKC 6. Considering with what we've all been through, I wouldn't put it past Nintendo to do exactly that.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

I'm optimistic that the overt experimentation with mid-tier franchises has hopefully tapered off. Stuff like Yoshi and Kirby have been more mainline in the past 10 years and the combination of Star Fox Zero and Federation Force's commercial failures has hopefully curbed the impulse for being too wacky with the gimmicks or overt focus on odd spin-offs during major game gaps. The big question to me is that if another DK game is coming whether its form will be 3D or 2D.

In terms of making a big splash 3D would be more significant, but with Nintendo not releasing a non Maker 2D Mario game in the last 8 years (with NSMBU Deluxe obviously being a port) there's a big gap that another quality two dimensional game could fill. Especially in an era of stuff like Ori doing amazing things with its visuals, a Country game that did something similar and built upon what Tropical Freeze did would be fantastic at effectively completing a second DKC trilogy.

 

[Strong DK]

Just finished DKC3 with both on normal with kids and tufst myself. Still think it's a good game but worst DKC. Would give it 8/10.
Soundtrack is a bit poor compared to earlier DKCs and atmosphere ain't as good than it was in previous games.
Kiddy is the worst Kong along with Chunky and should be euthanized immediately/used as a meat shield. Everyone of my friends thinks Kiddy's design just sucks and he stole DK's rightful spot. Everything Kiddy does DK does it much better.
Then there's Ellie... Worst animal buddy imo. Makes one really miss Rambi. Just tell her location to poachers...
But Dixie is one of the best parts of the game and it's nice that DKC3 is her game. I understand that if DK was in the game she would have been only a sidekick.
This is a bit of a rant but i just wanted to say my honest opinion (once again)about DKC3.

 

[BirthNote]

Fatmanonice and S Strong DK legitimately had me lol pretty hard. Euthanizing Kiddy sounds like a hilarious idea, and it's only been a handful of months, but Fatman's comment about the plane wreckage was oddly nostalgic LMAO. I just had to chime in.

Made a little something to celebrate DKC3 on the Switch, as well as the colder weather we're getting in the Northern Hemisphere (and the Northern Kremisphere)!

Heard it and left a like. Great work! I encourage everyone to at the very least leave a comment on Zero Janitor's vid; it'll boost the vid's chances with the algorithm

 

[Justin Little]

I wonder if they made Kiddy actually cute he would be better received.

Let's see, we have DK who is cool and handsome, Diddy and Dixie who are cool and adorable, and Kiddy who is... just fugly all around. Dixie deserves a better sidekick than that. What if Lanky Kong was her sidekick instead. I say he fits all of those criteria mentioned. Yep, even fugly and handsome. What can I say, he's deep that way.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

I think they could have something from making Funky playable back then. There would be a size difference between him and Dixie so the same contrast in weight would have been there, he was a known (and relatively well liked) character, and you could even play it off as the laid back Funky finally deciding to get involved directly against the Kremlings.

Even stuff like the boat/jet/helicopter upgrades could have been done via Cranky owning some sort of old Kong junkyard and refusing to give the pair vehicles unless he's paid. It stays true to the character and would have continued the association between him and the DK coins.

 

[BirthNote]

ChronoBound I read your essay. My state had a big blizzard and so I've spent the last few days dealing with that; I was too exhausted to read it at first but I just finished it.

I think your analysis of the speculation trends was excellent and completely accurate. I remember during post-Brawl speculation I'd dream up "rule-free" roster picks that had characters from Sony, Microsoft and other companies, only to be dismissed because they had no hope of ever joining. Not even Rayman. It's crazy how much things have shifted. Years later, during pre-Ultimate speculation I'd point at Cloud and Snake, as well as the Celebration of Gaming to justify speculation about Ratchet & Clank. I knew their odds were next to non-existent, and I know what kind of....."dynamic" Sony and Insomniac Games have with Nintendo, but I stopped caring. I was more interested in having fun with the idea than seriously speculating on their chances. It's just crazy that while those 2 and some of my other rule-free choices won't make it, they no longer seem unreasonable. Even Ori now has a legit shot since Microsoft and Nintendo have a working relationship.

It's completely true that the fanbase's tastes have changed; my Top 3 requests are simply Dixie, Crash and Rayman. I've already gotten my Diddy Kong, Bowser Jr., K. Rool, Little Mac and Mega Man. Now I look at the characters people speculate on and go "Sure, why not." I personally don't have many characters I want, and the handful I do want aren't even Nintendo.

As a side note though, I knew Shorts had passed away years ago but I didn't know it was due to a car crash; back in 2016 I visited the pages of people who were regulars in the Official SSB4 Discussion thread to see what they've been up to. When I got to Shorts's page I saw nothing but mournful comments and pieced it together. I didn't know exactly what happened until today; it's a weird feeling to get the answer to a question I wondered about 4 years later, long after I stopped pondering. Rest In Peace, Shorts.

It's really heartwarming that Dixie stayed strong despite all her circumstances, but it's also bittersweet. I'm keeping a cautiously optimistic eye on what fatmanonice has said in regards to DK having a big game on the way, but as for Dixie's chances in Smash, I'm still skeptical. Years ago, I THOUGHT I had given all I could to show support for Dixie, but Ultimate's debut showed me I barely did anything, so I cooked up more ideas. I'm happy with what I've done now and there'll be more, but I'm also really glad I'm not the only fan showing support in unique ways. Speculating on a character I really want has been stressful and disappointing, but not being the only person who wants Dixie, as well as not being the only one to come up with ideas, is really reassuring. Less pressure I suppose. We're doing a solid job keeping Dixie "alive" but we're at the point where Nintendo's gotta do something.

After this DLC cycle, I probably won't be speculating anymore...even though I barely bother to do it now. I'm cracking 30 and there's other stuff I'll spend time on. Just for fun though I'll probably post moveset ideas for random characters who may or may not ever show up in Smash. I would like to be excited about an upcoming DK game though, but that's up to Nintendo.

 

[Gengar84]

I have a pretty unpopular opinion on what I want for Dixie’s inclusion in Smash. I think it would be really interesting to represent the tag and team mechanics of the classic trilogy so I’m actually hoping she is paired with Kiddy Kong. Being able to tag in and out as well as the ability to throw your partner to attack would be a really interesting and unique play style that would make them a kind of hybrid between Ice Climbers and Pokémon Trainer. I know most people hate Kiddy Kong but I think he would help make Dixie stand out on the roster.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Ellie the worst animal buddie? Definitely disagree there. Kiddy I can understand not liking (even though I stand by him being better than DK in DKC1) but she was a breath of fresh air. Her being pretty much the only new animal friend introduced for DKC3 was kinda weak though.

 

[Phoenix Douchebag]

I find it ironic Ellie is not a Rambi Expy in strenght, even though Elephants are among one of the strongest Mammals on Land.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

I think Ellie just needed one more interesting feature about her playstyle to really make her work. The water shooting was novel, but being a land animal that could pick up barrels didn't make her that different from the Kongs and the scared of rats gimmick was a bit much to deal with. Something like the ability to grab certain enemies with her trunk and fling them at enemies might have made her stand out more.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

ChronoBound


I have read your essay here too, and I can't help parroting with others on how just deeply comprehensive and professionally analyzed it just is. You really went all way and out with this one.

I wish I could voice out my own thoughts and opinions on the analysis itself, but I'm deeply afraid I might end up writing something deeply frothed in embitterment and even passive-aggressively "spiteful" wishes against whatever currently is the audience enjoying getting acknowledged by Smash-franchise these days, while I feel like I had been played like a damn fiddle for even thinking I had even come close anywhere same, and made also a pointed target of mercilessly toxic mockery for investing it on characters that were destined too deceased in their long-running dormancy or insignificance in moveset potential to be added in.

I might consider writing my full thoughts out though incase folk here really feel interest on hearing it - I still want to practice unbiased and non-judgmental view of others, over even thinking of spitting back the same ignorant, envy-filled spite on others out there, even if receiving that long before.

As a side note though, I knew Shorts had passed away years ago but I didn't know it was due to a car crash; back in 2016 I visited the pages of people who were regulars in the Official SSB4 Discussion thread to see what they've been up to. When I got to Shorts's page I saw nothing but mournful comments and pieced it together. I didn't know exactly what happened until today; it's a weird feeling to get the answer to a question I wondered about 4 years later, long after I stopped pondering. Rest In Peace, Shorts.

My God... that Shorts? I happen now to remember him back in those days as that chippery, youthful horsetail frequenting that thread so often. What a fine time of endless possibilities and good times that was during my high school years...

I can't believe his passing somehow flew by my horizons, since I had kinda forgotten about him as Smash 4-speculation era thrusted me to completely different communities. Really hits me kind of hard now that I had come far since.


It's definitely way due belated... may he rest in peace.

 

[Mamboo07]

Rare picture of unidentified simians (2020, colourised)

(Found this cursed abomination.)