- Dec 26, 2013
- 3DS FC
As an aside, I know you and the other Greninja mains are trying to lowkey the hell out of how good the Frog is now, but let's be real, Greninja is ridiculous and has all the tools to be top tier in this game. That he straight robbed Fox of his dash attack, has a great projectile, has a bazillion kill confirms, a great recovery, and absurd mobility, is just kind of blatantly rude. I'm both surprised and not surprised that most of the Western meta hasn't really been paying that much attention until just recently.
But you know, bad OoS and stuff, mid tier.
I wouldn’t say I’ve been particularly low key with my opinions. After an initial wobble over Greninja’s still-atrocious OoS game (it’s the worst in the game, I don’t see how Lucario’s or anyone else’s is worse when literally everyone else has either a faster grab, good Up B/Usmash or rising aerial, usually 2 or more of those things) I’ve been pretty vocal about how strong I think he is. Bad OoS is a big deal but not an insurmountable problem when everything else is so good, particularly his kill power and damage output for a character of his mobility. Greninja is the type of character that is traditionally top tier and people are generally comfortable with being top tier.
You can’t blame the players for being low key about froggo’s strength though. The word “potential” has become a meme and a lot of frog mains were shouted down in the S4 days for saying he was above mid tier, before iStudying and Venia started to turn heads. Plus he’s still relatively hard to play and unpopular in the US. If that changes I don’t think it’ll take long for Greninja to be commonly known as a top tier, even if (much like Peach) he’ll be too hard to play to be a FOTM character.