COMPETITIVE Brawl+: Code Agenda

[goodoldganon]

out of date

 

[shanus]

Ganon, read my post above and hop on IRC later today if you want to try out the good working one.

 

[goodoldganon]

Ganon, read my post above and hop on IRC later today if you want to try out the good working one.

But I should be studying

 

[GPDP]

The newest momentum code (V4) works perfectly. At first I might've done something wrong, and it made Sonic's momentum feel glitchy, but shanus's code is good to go. Now even Sonic and ZSS get momentum, but not a whole lot. Just enough to give them more options without feeling overwhelming.

 

[Frogles]

Only problem with V4 is it seems chars get momentum off a walk with values over 1.

 

[GPDP]

Only problem with V4 is it seems chars get momentum off a walk with values over 1.

Do they? I didn't notice that. But I might not have tried it.

Edit: I'm not getting any walk-off momentum, even with Sonic.

 

[shanus]

Only problem with V4 is it seems chars get momentum off a walk with values over 1.

I tried it with sonic, worked fine for me.

edit: frogles pointed out you need to be in a full walk to get the momentum. If you tap back before it, you get none of that walking momentum so its pretty much fine. That and sonic doesn't walk around all day long so I think its pretty fine for now lol

Also, its not walk–off momentum, its momentum from walking.

 

[Yeroc]

He means jumping from a walk. Which it does. Everything else works, and isn't v10 glitchy, so I personally can live with that.

 

[SketchHurricane]

So who is this "Scar" and what possessed him to jump in this fashion? :D

I should be able to mess with these (momentum, scar) tonight.

 

[kupo15]

Only problem with V4 is it seems chars get momentum off a walk with values over 1.

This is completely normal seeing how it worked this way in melee also. If you have a ground speed greater than X, you will get momentum regardless of what animation your in which is why RAR works. You usually have to be in a fast walk to get momentum but in sonic's case, he is so fast that his mid speed walk carries him over the threshold but not his slow walk. Its fine because its sonic. Go figure.

Oh and everyone should take the momentum code in the OP

 

[Yeroc]

Doesn't the first line of the data code have a byte count? If so Kupo you need to change it from 8 to 20.

 

[Almas]

This is Scar.

We should have a release by monday.

 

[kupo15]

Doesn't the first line of the data code have a byte count? If so Kupo you need to change it from 8 to 20.

Right. I just edited right now and forgot to change that

 

[SCOTU]

now, i know what scar jumping is, or what some call scar jumping, but i'm not sure what it is in the context that it would need a code. Can you like... not jump off a wall when you're facing away from it or something normally in brawl?

 

[SketchHurricane]

now, i know what scar jumping is, or what some call scar jumping, but i'm not sure what it is in the context that it would need a code. Can you like... not jump off a wall when you're facing away from it or something normally in brawl?

Normally there is a timer that prevents you from jumping the same wall rapidly. The code removes the timer.

 

[kupo15]

Normally there is a timer that prevents you from jumping the same wall rapidly. The code removes the timer.

Basically this is impossible without the code
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPeKvrjfRxA

 

[Dark Sonic]

So who is this "Scar" and what possessed him to jump in this fashion? :D

I should be able to mess with these (momentum, scar) tonight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDNJv92TCjk&feature=related

That is scar.

Watch 8:38-9:00 for some of the best display of Scar jumping ever!!!

 

[Finns7]

Not to sound like a hater or anything but how would this code help the entire cast? Or better brawl competetively idk I can see ways in which it can add to the edge game, but I also just see another code that just has Falcon written all over it, and MELEE falcon at that...

Idk though I never liked brawls system anyway

 

[goodoldganon]

Not to sound like a hater or anything but how would this code help the entire cast? Or better brawl competetively idk I can see ways in which it can add to the edge game, but I also just see another code that just has Falcon written all over it...

It doesn't really help anyone in general. It's cool and makes for lulz moments. Sure, you can mix up some edge guarding with it, but in the end if we ever truly need a few more lines I'd expect scar jumping to be the first to be removed.

 

[Finns7]

well and it should be balanced from reading other post's 21 O_o scar jumps....Melee's design and stystem made it so you kinda could get ravaged if someone read you well. I wonder if you could get punished from this? idk.....I hope that texture guy didnt lie to me about gecko 2.0 still being worked on

 

[SketchHurricane]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDNJv92TCjk&feature=related

That is scar.

Watch 8:38-9:00 for some of the best display of Scar jumping ever!!!

All I have to say is d@mn.

Not to sound like a hater or anything but how would this code help the entire cast? Or better brawl competetively idk I can see ways in which it can add to the edge game, but I also just see another code that just has Falcon written all over it, and MELEE falcon at that...

Idk though I never liked brawls system anyway

It took all of 2 seconds for spunit to make, and takes up 1 line. Not much to complain about. If bet you Wario will get much more **** out of it with his air mobility + recovery.

 

[kupo15]

Falcon can't scar jump 21 times. He is no mario. And have you forgotten the other wall jumpers like lucario or diddy or zss? I think this code actually helps them out more than falcon seeing how lame the walls are for wall jumping

 

[goodoldganon]

It took all of 2 seconds for spunit to make, and takes up 1 line. Not much to complain about. If bet you Wario will get much more **** out of it with his air mobility + recovery.

Since Wario can wall jump and all...

 

[SketchHurricane]

Since Wario can wall jump and all...

Sarcastic remark is sarcastic :embarrass

Guess not then. What kupo said.

 

[Dark Sonic]

It kinda helps Sonic's recovery (as if it needed it).

Sonic can wall jump (and footstool jump) after his up B, and he can wall jump while someone is hanging on the ledge. Putting these two things together, Sonic can up B, and wall jump off the ledge if someone is trying to edgehog him, and then wall jump again a couple of times if they like to refresh their invincibility (like Link, TL, Samus, ect) and eventually footstool jump off of them when their not invincible.

But he'll rarely need to do that. Scar jumping is mostly for shenanigans.

 

[Sanu]

So who is this "Scar" and what possessed him to jump in this fashion? :D

I should be able to mess with these (momentum, scar) tonight.

To add to what other have said, he's also a mod on swf: http://www.smashboards.com/member.php?u=56907

 

[wazgood]

Well for one it makes captain falcon even more epic. (Is that possible?)

 

[SketchHurricane]

Well for one it makes captain falcon even more epic. (Is that possible?)

Falcon would have your head for such a question. His epicness knows no bounds.

 

[kupo15]

I moved the camera code to the beta section since it was freezing when I loaded the stage

 

[spunit262]

Camera properties [spunit262)]
48000000 80b8a428
De000000 80008180
58000000 00000078
De000000 80008180
16000000 00000040
C3340000 43340000
43020000 C2700000
42a60000 447a0000
3d4ccccd 3d4ccccd
00000000 00000000
00000000 Bdb2b8c2
3f060a92 3f800000
3f800000 3f800000
E0000000 80008000

Camera boundary
Camera angle
Zoom or something
Unknown vars

another stupid mistake.

 

[CountKaiser]

What does the camera mod do, exactly?

 

[kupo15]

I still get a freeze...(I used training mode if that makes a difference)

Count: More dynamic means things feel faster and more exciting. I just can't wait until it works so I can try it out...

 

[trojanpooh]

I wouldn't be surprised if it does make a difference as training uses a different camera to begin with, try it in normal brawl

 

[Greenpoe]

I think hitstun should be slightly higher.

 

[trojanpooh]

Really? Because a lot of people think it should be ever so slightly lower.

 

[spunit262]

I think I found my second stupid mistake, but I'm not posting it till I'm sure it works,

 

[kupo15]

I wouldn't be surprised if it does make a difference as training uses a different camera to begin with, try it in normal brawl

No I didn't but in the first version, both froze so I didn't try. I actually think the camera doesn't change so I'm not sure why it would make a difference

I think I found my second stupid mistake, but I'm not posting it till I'm sure it works,

No worries

 

[spunit262]

Camera properties [spunit262)]
48000000 80b8a428
De000000 80008180
58010000 00000078
De000000 80008180
16000000 00000040
C3340000 43340000
43020000 C2700000
42a60000 447a0000
3d4ccccd 3d4ccccd
00000000 00000000
00000000 Bdb2b8c2
3f060a92 3f800000
3f800000 3f800000
E0000000 80008000

Camera boundary
Camera angle
Zoom or something
Unknown vars

There, also these are the values of Final Destination.

 

[shanus]

Man this codeset is feeling so polished now with momentum v4 spunit, its great! Looking forward to the camera code (when we have room at least), and the tumble code and knockback modifier code will almost wrap up everything else we need!

 

[Shadic]

Shanus, how does the momentum code you're using affect characters like Sonic?