COMPETITIVE Brawl+: Code Agenda

[KRSnakey]

MuBa, if it means anything to you - I tried out your latest codeset, and it's all about the hot, sick, nasty speed. Personally, I like it.

Thanks for the ride.

 

[MuBa]

Well I'm glad a lot of people are enjoying my code set

Thanks for the support guys!

With high amount of speed in the game, I think the defensive option will be balanced out on its own.

 

[KRSnakey]

Dear MuBa,

Please include the the pkmn trainer no-switch and infinite stamina.

Your friend,

KRSnakey

 

[leafgreen386]

KRS, you know that you can just add it to the txt file yourself, right? The codes should all be on the first page...

edit: Here.

P.Trainer Infinite Stamina: [Phantom Wings, spunit262] (1 line)
04A8BDAC 60000000

P.Trainer No Swap: [Y.S. & Phantom Wings]

C2816AF4 0000000A
3E408062 3A523320
3A60FFFF 3E730001
7E732038 1E730244
7E529A14 80120000
2C00001D 41800024
2C000022 4181001C
2C170115 41820014
38A5FFFF 2C050000
40800008 38A00002
7C0802A6 00000000

 

[KRSnakey]

KRS, you know that you can just add it to the txt file yourself, right? The codes should all be on the first page...

edit: Here.

P.Trainer Infinite Stamina: [Phantom Wings, spunit262] (1 line)
04A8BDAC 60000000

P.Trainer No Swap: [Y.S. & Phantom Wings]

C2816AF4 0000000A
3E408062 3A523320
3A60FFFF 3E730001
7E732038 1E730244
7E529A14 80120000
2C00001D 41800024
2C000022 4181001C
2C170115 41820014
38A5FFFF 2C050000
40800008 38A00002
7C0802A6 00000000

Thanks leafgreen, I already got around to it. I was just suggesting that he include it for the others. Thanks for the help though, I do appreciate it.

If we had a fellow ranking system, I would totally bump you right now.

 

[Shadic]

Kupo's doing good, as long as he keeps an open mind Brawl+ will become what most want it to be. Also: multiple code sets are the cause of thousands of deaths each year. That, and we don't want/need them.

Thanks again.

Oh no, choices are terrible! How should we think!?

MuBa, if it means anything to you - I tried out your latest codeset, and it's all about the hot, sick, nasty speed. Personally, I like it.

Thanks for the ride.

Oh wait.

 

[KRSnakey]

Shadic, I'm not sure how to interpret your post. Was it a bash towards me, or...? I was just stating that while I like Kupo's codeset, MuBa's is also quite fun. You guys aren't going to make choosing a codeset easy, are you?

 

[Shadic]

I'm saying that your first post was hideously ignorant and.. Basically lame.

The idea of trying everything and figuring out what's best is what made Kupo's codeset what it is. To say we only need one codeset right now. is extremely short-sighted.

 

[KRSnakey]

I'm saying that your first post was hideously ignorant and.. Basically lame.

The idea of trying everything and figuring out what's best is what made Kupo's codeset what it is. To say we only need one codeset right now. is extremely short-sighted.

Oh, I didn't mean right now. Sorry for being vague, I meant in the future we should end up with one codeset. I understand the importance of more than one codeset at this time. Sorry for posting lame.

 

[kupo15]

I like how I turned into the bad guy....yet again.

 

[KRSnakey]

I like how I turned into the bad guy....yet again.

Kupo, you're always a winner to me.

 

[storm92]

I like how I turned into the bad guy....yet again.

Its k kupo, you'll get used to it.

 

[Osi]

I like how I turned into the bad guy....yet again.

I don't think it's that you're as much bad in his eyes... I'm betting it's just you are one of the figure heads for the side of minor tweaks and keeping the game feeling the same, and the other side that wants to radically change it to a fast and super tech skill based game see you as their opposition is all. I haven't seen anything too bad posted on this thread from you.

 

[MuBa]

I'm not finding ANYONE as part of ANY opposition. I've said this once, and I'm going to say it again:

THE PURPOSE OF MY CODE SET IS TO HAVE PEOPLE EXPERIMENT WITH 3 DIFFERING SETTINGS:

MILD, MODERATE, AND EXTREME.

 

[kupo15]

I don't think it's that you're as much bad in his eyes... I'm betting it's just you are one of the figure heads for the side of minor tweaks and keeping the game feeling the same, and the other side that wants to radically change it to a fast and super tech skill based game see you as their opposition is all. I haven't seen anything too bad posted on this thread from you.

The old kupo was for minor tweaks. The new kupo is for bigger changes but that does not include overcompensating with radical code values for the lack of the future codes. With the upmost respect, I feel people like MuBa's codeset for the wrong reason..

I'm not finding ANYONE as part of ANY opposition. I've said this once, and I'm going to say it again:

THE PURPOSE OF MY CODE SET IS TO HAVE PEOPLE EXPERIMENT WITH 3 DIFFERING SETTINGS:

MILD, MODERATE, AND EXTREME.

I wouldn't consider my code set mild anymore compared to mookies.

 

[Dan_X]

I like how I turned into the bad guy....yet again.

Yeah, why does this always seem to happen anyway? ROFL. Wait I know why... people are STUPID.

It's okay Kupo, because you know what? I would absolutely have your babies.

 

[kupo15]

It's okay Kupo, because you know what? I would absolutely have your babies.

Sounds kinky!

Message from pw:

Yes, I've been a bit busy with making the texture code, so not much progress as far as Brawl+ codes go. Recently I've achieved complete control over the SD card runtimes(with the exception of the character select screen - where it really matters). But that being said, I can upload any file from the SD card at any time of my choosing. There are still a few things that need to be worked out with directing where file is uploaded, but I've also been able to locate values for that as well...

I'll try and set aside some more time to work on Brawl+ codes as it seems to be about time I worked on them again. I'll keep you informed.

 

[Shell]

Which codes is/will he be working on? Still the teching?

 

[Blank Mauser]

Hey was there something wrong with the codeset Kupo had up before? The new one seems different from the one in this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCKJLMaJN2U

Iunno, tired. But if there were any adjustments I'd like to know.

Edit: I also can't wait for PW's texture thing. ^_^

 

[GPDP]

It's always nice to hear from PW.

However, it's Almas and Mookie I really wanna hear from right now. I wanna know if we're getting that new code soon so badly.

 

[kupo15]

Possible tech window fix
Tech roll speed
Research on the air code
No AD out of the tumble
True spikes

GP: Me too

 

[Almas]

The code is ready. We're just waiting for other codes to become stable and functional before a release. In the meantime, I'm optimising the code (It was about 120 lines, I'm hoping to cut that down to about 70, as well as making it easier to modify), and we're making sure we have a good starting point.

 

[Shell]

What all functions would your code include, Almas? SH, gravity, Dash etc? And I take it the 70/120 would just be the base length before char-specific bits are implemented? Awesome to hear it's ready, though.

@Kupo, what's this about true spikes? I thought that brawl did a decent enough job at making spikes reaaally difficult / impossible to cancel at high enough percents that they should kill, but cancel-able at low percents. Would all spikes be uncancelable? Char-specific? Seems like a low priority if it really does need to change.

 

[GPDP]

The code is ready. We're just waiting for other codes to become stable and functional before a release. In the meantime, I'm optimising the code (It was about 120 lines, I'm hoping to cut that down to about 70, as well as making it easier to modify), and we're making sure we have a good starting point.

That's great to hear. Will we be able to modify launch power for short hops, full jumps, multiple jumps, and gravity-affected UpB's with it?

 

[kupo15]

What all functions would your code include, Almas? SH, gravity, Dash etc? And I take it the 70/120 would just be the base length before char-specific bits are implemented? Awesome to hear it's ready, though.

@Kupo, what's this about true spikes? I thought that brawl did a decent enough job at making spikes reaaally difficult / impossible to cancel at high enough percents that they should kill, but cancel-able at low percents. Would all spikes be uncancelable? Char-specific? Seems like a low priority if it really does need to change.

EDIT: I just pmed him to replace the no AD from tumble with shield during DD. Spikes in this game have no timing involved in meteor canceling. Once you are about halfway through the move, you can jump out of it. My reasoning behind including it is that there are several difficult codes and I might as well request a more simple (?) code while the USB is connected

 

[KRSnakey]

Everything just gets tastier and tastier.

 

[Almas]

No. It is 120 lines including the modifications. It will be about 70 lines including the modifications. We're already testing different modifications to try and find the most suitable starting point before community input.

The code allows for a character specific change in Full Hop/Second Hop Launch Power, Short Hop Launch Power, Fast Fall Speed and Downwards Gravity, as well as a second code that modifies each character's overall Gravity. Better still, this global gravity modification doesn't affect many Up+B abilities (including Bowser's, Link's and Donkey Kong's), allowing for the characters to have faster jumps without significantly affecting their recovery. We decided on a dash speed increase that is the same for everyone - it doesn't really seem that characters need to have their dash speeds altered by different amounts.

 

[GPDP]

*splooges*

 

[Shell]

Wow, I'm really impressed with the work you guys have done. Although I was skeptical of the need for a SBR+, this is prime evidence that you guys can achieve great things without the argument of the community slowing you down. If you can get the code semi-ironed-out this weekend my friends and I'll give it some serious play-testing

 

[plasmatorture]

Don't worry SHeLL, there will be plenty of bickering over specific values once it's released.

 

[SketchHurricane]

The code allows for a character specific change in Full Hop/Second Hop Launch Power, Short Hop Launch Power, Fast Fall Speed and Downwards Gravity, as well as a second code that modifies each character's overall Gravity. Better still, this global gravity modification doesn't affect many Up+B abilities (including Bowser's, Link's and Donkey Kong's), allowing for the characters to have faster jumps without significantly affecting their recovery. We decided on a dash speed increase that is the same for everyone - it doesn't really seem that characters need to have their dash speeds altered by different amounts.

Sounds like just what the doctor ordered.

I'm also really excited about PW's work, because I would love to throw some ill textures into my B+. Dry Bowser will have his revenge!

 

[Shell]

Yeah, It'd be great if we could still have those Fierce Deity Link / Shadow the Hedgehog / Mewcario skins.

 

[Yeroc]

Chalk up another MuBa convert...well, almost. I took FF down to 1.2 and took off the jump/throw codes. I'm not even sure what the jump code does. But I like the rest. I only toned down the FF slightly because I think with 1.35 you fastfall fast enough already o_O. Other than that I really like it. With my CSS and Shields I'm only at about 170. Total awesomeness.

 

[kupo15]

updated my set again. Lowered FF to 1.12

 

[the_judge]

updated my set again. Lowered FF to 1.12

why? me and my friend thought it was just fine.
Though MK ***** everything with FF.

 

[☆_Mutha-Foxin GangstaKirby_☆]

New Codes to test

[COLOR=Yellow][B]Debug Pause[/B][/COLOR]:-(GCC)
80000000 805B8A08
0402E5AC 8819000B
4A000000 804DE470
38000000 EFFF1000
86410000 00000001
E2000001 00000000
4A000000 805B8A08
3A000002 00FF0000
12000002 00000001
E2000001 00000000
4A000000 804DE470
38000000 FFEF0010
4A000000 805B8A08
3A000002 FF000000
12000002 00000100
E2000002 00000000

Press Start to freeze the game(don't worry, the music and sounds are unaffected).
Press Z to step through frame by frame.
Press Start again to unfreeze the game.
(The new Start command is X+D^)

Button Modifier:
041E6CD8 4BE1C128
041E6D1C 4BE1C114
06002E00 00000068
9421FF80 BC410008
7CE4402E 7CE738F8
7CE73039 3864FFC0
7CE3412E 7CC4412E
B8410008 38210080
60000000 481E3EB0
9421FF80 BC410008
7C03202E 3DC01000
7DCE70F8 7C007039
740E0408 3DE00408
7C0E7800 40820008
64001000 B8410008
38210080 481E3EBC
[COLOR=LightBlue][B]
Must be used with the Debug Pause Code.[/B][/COLOR]

its a great code for data collection but it messes up replays it needs a lil work so the cpus dont do something other than what actually happened but other than that its awesome for finding tech frames and etc.

 

[Rx-]

I'm posting here, at this moment, to show my incredible support for this project, and a great thanks to everyone who's hard at working contributing to it.

Thanks guys!!!!

I can't wait

 

[kupo15]

why? me and my friend thought it was just fine.
Though MK ***** everything with FF.

My friend couldn't do a FF Fair with mario and make it back yet he could in melee. It might have been a bit too much.

Almas: When the code is released or whenever you have free time for waiting for hackers help for the code or whatever, can you look into making a code to adjust the ledge invincibility time? It needs to be slightly longer.

 

[the_judge]

Maybe that might fix my pseudo trap with MK where I just SHFF bairs so that I only get 2 slashes, and hitstun usually keeps a few chars caught in it until around 60% or they DI out.

Though it's awesome, it is somewhat broken.

 

[kupo15]

Maybe that might fix my pseudo trap with MK where I just SHFF bairs so that I only get 2 slashes, and hitstun usually keeps a few chars caught in it until around 60% or they DI out.

Though it's awesome, it is somewhat broken.

could be a problem o_O