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Colorado Smash - MVG Presents: REVELATION 2 - MIDWEST NATIONAL! MVG QUALIFIER! May 16-17

GoldenGlove

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Tony, you're citing stuff from years ago, with tons of "almost", "would have", and "in one game" thrown in.

Rafa and Jeris are top class players, and Ferdi's really good, I'll readily recognize that. But having had recent experience with both CO (King of the Springs ranbat, NM's tournament at Active...unfortunately didn't play any Melee at Supercon) and AZ (Grand Challenge just last month), I'll say with confidence that AZ is the better state.

NM still sucks.

No loss of <3.
 

InterimOfZeal

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Tony, you're citing stuff from years ago, with tons of "almost", "would have", and "in one game" thrown in.

Rafa and Jeris are top class players, and Ferdi's really good, I'll readily recognize that. But having had recent experience with both CO (King of the Springs ranbat, NM's tournament at Active...unfortunately didn't play any Melee at Supercon) and AZ (Grand Challenge just last month), I'll say with confidence that AZ is the better state.

NM still sucks.

No loss of <3.
At least I'm citing something. You guys are citing a boxing match of me vs Taj.

King of the Springs was like... a year ago? We were garbage because we hadn't played in almost a year, too. You haven't played our top players, and you haven't played in tournament vs us.

Despite your opinion not really meaning much, you could put money on AZ vs CO crew battle for vote of confidence. If I can get CO fired up and AZ wanting to go, anyway.

okay guys so i just woke up with a BIG COLD SORE!! TOP LIP, MIDDLE! yep... my whole week is ruined!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :'(
Aww...

I liek X.

Guys, drop it and go get laid.
Don't you like... go to hell for that or something, if it's out of wedlock?

then come to AZ and prove yourselves colorado!

ya'll no-shows at grand challenge, the **** was up with that?!

MELEE!!!!
Biggest problem is that almost all of us are in college/broke right now. BUUUUUT, if you guys have a huge Melee event planned that's ONLY Melee and is run by people that actually know what they're doing, I can start talking to our Melee players. It'd be fun to have CO vs AZ.

Still, really wanna play your Falcon. Looks fun to fight. And after fighting a Peach that doesn't allow you to just jump in, maybe you can start ****** Light? :D

Wow, I love how tony didn't mention me at all. </3 I guess I never existed in Co smash, despite my recent re-interest and improvement in the game. I also think that you are being way to cocky with Co's melee scene. I know I'm not helping the cause against dekar, but despite what you say we still have not had recent activity and tournaments. The tournament that I hosted before I left was the first melee tournament we have had in over a year, and honestly Co's skill is static at best. I do think CO has potential, but it's sort of hard to boast when we haven't been oos in forever.

To __X__: thats what you get when you **** colorado players: herpes!!! :)
I was defending the players here, not the ones that are OoS/whatever. I didn't mention Victor, the single most important player to our scene. I didn't mention Bloshi, who is probably the best Yoshi in the nation/world. Or he should be, anyway. I didn't mention Tim, Kyle, or a lot of players that don't play Melee regularly with us. I mentioned who we have.

Also, you have no idea about CO's skill level. Or Arizona's, for that matter. You still get ***** for the same habits you had 3 years ago. Yeah, Jeris fell for stupid **** vs you, buuuuut I don't really recall you being in finals for that tournament. Odd.

You've seen one tournament. You haven't seen the countless smashfests we've had, or the "free" tournaments we randomly do (most recent one was the "blunt" tournament, I think). We just don't do tournaments that often because we don't really feel like paying money just to play each other. I know I can stomp everyone that I failed to mention that comes from CO, and I don't really feel like paying money just to play Jeris in loser's Semis and lose to misfire. It's fun playing them, but until we have something that really shakes up our scene, I dunno how big a deal tournaments are. Maybe if we can get some OoS love.

Hmm... Best of the 4 corners tournament, maybe? I bet we could hit up MikeHAZE/Zoap and try to get them to bring some Cali players. Maybe Vic can hit up Dmac and we can get something REALLY good to go down. Who would be interested, and when should we do it?

Anyway, it wasn't anything against you. However, you've never gone OoS with us, you've never placed at any major event, and you're OoS currently. You're still CO smash, and we still <3 you, but you kinda need to stop assuming the worst.
 

Dekar173

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If you're talking about Dmac from KS, I'm fairly certain he quit smash and competitive gaming in general.

If you're talking about a CO tourney where OoS will actually attend, I'm fairly certain no one will want to go for one HUGE reason- you people don't even enter your own tourneys, how can you assure competition that the drive is going to be worth it, even when they take first in all of the events?

CO's got a few power players, excluding you, that's all!
 

GoldenGlove

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At least I'm citing something. You guys are citing a boxing match of me vs Taj.

King of the Springs was like... a year ago? We were garbage because we hadn't played in almost a year, too.
Could've sworn DFG called it King of the Springs, but maybe that wasn't it. The tournament I'm talking about was this past summer.

You haven't played our top players, and you haven't played in tournament vs us.
I've played pretty much all of CO in friendlies at some point and done decently, but I'll grant you that friendlies don't mean ****.

In our Active Imagination tournament, also this past summer, I 2-0ed Kenny, took a game off of Lovo, and had some close games with Jeris. I don't say this to make a case for my own skill, but compare it to AZ, where I just get casually *****.

Despite your opinion not really meaning much, you could put money on AZ vs CO crew battle for vote of confidence. If I can get CO fired up and AZ wanting to go, anyway.
My opinion doesn't matter much...why? Because whenever I'm around CO, the planets don't align to allow them to **** me as hard as AZ does? Like I said, no loss of <3, I'm just being honest. Your insistence that CO is better than AZ is like NM's old belief that we could take on CO (Hell, Neil still believes that).
 

InterimOfZeal

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In our Active Imagination tournament, also this past summer, I 2-0ed Kenny, took a game off of Lovo, and had some close games with Jeris. I don't say this to make a case for my own skill, but compare it to AZ, where I just get casually *****.



My opinion doesn't matter much...why? Because whenever I'm around CO, the planets don't align to allow them to **** me as hard as AZ does? Like I said, no loss of <3, I'm just being honest. Your insistence that CO is better than AZ is like NM's old belief that we could take on CO (Hell, Neil still believes that).
EDIT: It was in tournament, right?

Shame about Kenny losing to you, and LoVo giving you a match. I'm assuming you still lost to his Link, right? Didn't know they played that shoddily when they went down, but I guess not playing for a month or two before heading down is a bad idea. No johns, when was it, though? I didn't know they played that poorly.

Oh, and btw, the stuff with Ferdi+Mikezor was Event 52. I don't think that was too long ago.

We can always MM sometime, if you're feeling confident.

Also, you up for putting money on CO vs AZ?

If you're talking about Dmac from KS, I'm fairly certain he quit smash and competitive gaming in general.

If you're talking about a CO tourney where OoS will actually attend, I'm fairly certain no one will want to go for one HUGE reason- you people don't even enter your own tourneys, how can you assure competition that the drive is going to be worth it, even when they take first in all of the events?

CO's got a few power players, excluding you, that's all!
That's a shame.

If we can actually get competition to show up, CO's melee will enter. They just don't want to waste money on NVGA stuff anymore, since they get the shaft. I enter tournaments for the games I play, so yeah. Drive would be worth it, assuming we actually had good OoSers show up.


And quit with the "you're not good", already. I've given you tons of information, and all you do is ignore it and troll. For the record, I consistently place higher than most of CO at OoS events where I don't face them. This includes Brawl events, with AZ One Two being the only exception.

You aren't anything special. You play a good character in a bad game, and that's it. I'm done doing this song and dance unless you want to take it to PMs. I dunno what the source of your drama is, but venting here is pretty useless. Any further "lolusuk"s are just going to be reported to the mods for trolling/flaming, k? You don't even know what you're talking about, honestly.
 

GoldenGlove

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EDIT: It was in tournament, right?

Shame about Kenny losing to you, and LoVo giving you a match. I'm assuming you still lost to his Link, right? Didn't know they played that shoddily when they went down, but I guess not playing for a month or two before heading down is a bad idea. No johns, when was it, though? I didn't know they played that poorly.

Oh, and btw, the stuff with Ferdi+Mikezor was Event 52. I don't think that was too long ago.

We can always MM sometime, if you're feeling confident.

Also, you up for putting money on CO vs AZ?
Yeah, it was this one (Edit - clarifying that that's a hyperlink, because this new font hardly denotes it at all) in late May, and yeah, I still lost to his Link.

I'm not especially confident about my own skills, and never said I was. But sure, I'll throw a few bucks your way in an MM next time we meet.

And yes, if AZ's best players are present, I'd be willing to put money on them in a crew battle against CO.
 

ZMan

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im with gg on this one. co wouldn't stand a chance if az's best are around in crews. of course this is all meaningless unless we put this crew battle into motion

perhaps 4 corner crew at fight fiesta 2k10 would be in order. i don't think 4 corner crews have ever happened before in recent years.
 

YangFuShang

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Yeah, it was this one (Edit - clarifying that that's a hyperlink, because this new font hardly denotes it at all) in late May, and yeah, I still lost to his Link.

I'm not especially confident about my own skills, and never said I was. But sure, I'll throw a few bucks your way in an MM next time we meet.

And yes, if AZ's best players are present, I'd be willing to put money on them in a crew battle against CO.
i think ur mixing up ken with kenny. They are 2 different people, i don't think u ever played kenny before.
 

BlueMycon

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If you're talking about Dmac from KS, I'm fairly certain he quit smash and competitive gaming in general.
I think Dmac still plays. I played with him at Show Me Your Moves 9(February 2009) so unless he's quit since then he's still playing. Hopefully he didn't quit, Dmac is too cool.

The one I'm talking about is KenGeedorah.
Yeah I'm not KenGeedorah XD. Sadly I've never been to a NM tourney. Coincidentally, I spent like half my life living in Albuquerque. Had things been different I might have wound up a NM smasher o_O'

perhaps 4 corner crew at fight fiesta 2k10 would be in order. i don't think 4 corner crews have ever happened before in recent years.
That sounds awesome! I'd be down for that.
 

Timotee

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Does anyone have a spare cube controller or know where I can get a good one for fairly cheap? The ones I have at my house are annoyingly bad, I've noticed.
 

deepseadiva

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If you manage to find any cheap controllers Tim, would you mind telling me?

Apparently my brother's c-stick doesn't work properly, and he can't "down-smash spike" me when he wants to.

Also, when is this stupid font going to be changed back? D: D: D:
 

the Marronator

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I was defending the players here, not the ones that are OoS/whatever. I didn't mention Victor, the single most important player to our scene. I didn't mention Bloshi, who is probably the best Yoshi in the nation/world. Or he should be, anyway. I didn't mention Tim, Kyle, or a lot of players that don't play Melee regularly with us. I mentioned who we have.
Oh ok, well I guess you have a point

Also, you have no idea about CO's skill level. Or Arizona's, for that matter. You still get ***** for the same habits you had 3 years ago. Yeah, Jeris fell for stupid **** vs you, buuuuut I don't really recall you being in finals for that tournament. Odd.
Awww tony the complementary gentleman :) Really, you're too kind!

You've seen one tournament. You haven't seen the countless smashfests we've had, or the "free" tournaments we randomly do (most recent one was the "blunt" tournament, I think). We just don't do tournaments that often because we don't really feel like paying money just to play each other. I know I can stomp everyone that I failed to mention that comes from CO, and I don't really feel like paying money just to play Jeris in loser's Semis and lose to misfire. It's fun playing them, but until we have something that really shakes up our scene, I dunno how big a deal tournaments are. Maybe if we can get some OoS love.
Co is waay too good for tournaments. Co also never sandbags. And tony angrily stomps anyone he doesn't mention. Grumplegrumple

Hmm... Best of the 4 corners tournament, maybe? I bet we could hit up MikeHAZE/Zoap and try to get them to bring some Cali players. Maybe Vic can hit up Dmac and we can get something REALLY good to go down. Who would be interested, and when should we do it?
BEST IDEA EVER Best of the 4 corners tournament is how to end this ******** but hilarious debate of who is the best, because we all know it will never end until this tournament happens.
Anyway, it wasn't anything against you. However, you've never gone OoS with us, you've never placed at any major event, and you're OoS currently. You're still CO smash, and we still <3 you, but you kinda need to stop assuming the worst.
Aww nothing against me! :D :D I can certainly tell <3 I guess I should quit smash because I've never done well ever.

Also great link Dylan
 

Sinz

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I will also say with absolute confidence that AZ is a stronger melee scene.
 

Dekar173

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Tony I don't think speaking truth is considered trolling. If you're this raged over it, I'll stop. I just figured it was about time someone put you in your place for being such a passive-aggressive **** ALL of the time. Mission accomplished.

Plus, it rather bothered me when you decided NM wasn't worth your time, despite Wobbles being here for a tourney (trust me, he's all the competition you'd need).

As for regionals- everyone in the 4 corners is invited/expected to come to NM's tourney in February. This WILL be an NVGA tourney, but it most certainly won't be run by DFG (or anyone like him). It'll be run by Jason, who's a **** cool(er) guy (than DFG).

@Marronator- one of the cooler CO smashers, I assure you. NM loves you, so come down here and play piano like a champion in middleofnowhere Albuquerque! ;D
 

___X___

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Tony I don't think speaking truth is considered trolling. If you're this raged over it, I'll stop. I just figured it was about time someone put you in your place for being such a passive-aggressive **** ALL of the time. Mission accomplished.

Plus, it rather bothered me when you decided NM wasn't worth your time, despite Wobbles being here for a tourney (trust me, he's all the competition you'd need).

As for regionals- everyone in the 4 corners is invited/expected to come to NM's tourney in February. This WILL be an NVGA tourney, but it most certainly won't be run by DFG (or anyone like him). It'll be run by Jason, who's a **** cool(er) guy (than DFG).

@Marronator- one of the cooler CO smashers, I assure you. NM loves you, so come down here and play piano like a champion in middleofnowhere Albuquerque! ;D

hating on DFG? and other CO people? awww.. whats up with that dekar?? and CO, you shouldn't be hating on Dekar either, hes too cool with a nintendo shirt. there shouldn't be any hate anywhere....
but seriously everyone should just kinda... stop ya know? its all good! lets just play the game and have fun with it :D
 

Dekar173

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hating on DFG? and other CO people? awww.. whats up with that dekar?? and CO, you shouldn't be hating on Dekar either, hes too cool with a nintendo shirt. there shouldn't be any hate anywhere....
but seriously everyone should just kinda... stop ya know? its all good! lets just play the game and have fun with it :D
DFG tried to cheat myself, Mikehaze, and Dave (CO GnW) out of $250 at Supercon. Not to mention how Supercon was run in its entirety (the fact that despite Smash getting almost 20 more people to enter than the second closest game and DFG still not even allowing us to use a mic to call out matches and ultimately get our tournament the **** over) are being taken into account when I mention him.
 

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I <3 X. He's the only one talking sense in here. This isn't Days of our Smash or some other drama with the word Smash thrown in it.
 

___X___

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ohhh.... so i guess DFG tried to own you guys... that sucks...

well that's not the point. the point is no more arguments! lets see some lovin!!!

I love timotee for letting me smash inside his house. and letting me touch his chubby doggy <3
 

InterimOfZeal

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im with gg on this one. co wouldn't stand a chance if az's best are around in crews. of course this is all meaningless unless we put this crew battle into motion

perhaps 4 corner crew at fight fiesta 2k10 would be in order. i don't think 4 corner crews have ever happened before in recent years.
Prolly not gonna. CO's Melee players don't travel much anymore, due to school+money issues. It'd prolly have to happen on CO soil, maaaybe AZ if we planned ahead.

Ah, that's a definite possibility. The one I'm talking about is KenGeedorah.
Yeah, ummm.... KenGeedorah=/=Kenny. Huuuuuuuuuge difference. I was pretty confused about Kenny getting beaten by anyone from NM.

AZ and CO should crew battle MM :)

Also, Izzy, didn't Coty 4-stock you?
Prolly, but considering I was trying stupid **** out on him just to see what ***** a CCing Falco...

lololol friendlyjohns

Weren't you at AZ 1-2? If so, I do believe I did some four-stocking myself. I actually didn't lose once in Melee while I was down there, and only left the station because I unplugged my controller mid-match to go shut AZ's crappy ****talk up vs Tim.Then again, I didn't get to play your Forward/Taj during my session, so that might be why. Apologize to the dark m2 player that isn't Taj for me, if he actually plays with you guys? He seemed pretty pissed.

lol yes, yes I do.

Ya can't tech this without platforms and not everyone can DI away if I follow their DI.
You have no idea what you're talking about. uthrow rest is legit. Dthrow rest is your opponent being a ******.

Why weren't you at the smarshfest? I got lonely. =(

I was hoping to spend less monies than $25 though =(
Buy a new gamecube. Sell the gamecube, keep the controller. Tell me if it actually saves any money.

It wasn't about you, never was. You'll feel better once you get back to CO and that homesickness wears off.

Also, homesickness is a real word. Wtf?

InterimOfZeal will get destroyed by anyone half-decent in AZ in Melee.
Blah blah blah. Thank god there are very few half-decent players left, amirite?

I will also say with absolute confidence that AZ is a stronger melee scene.
Duly noted. Now get 3-stocked by Magus' Luigi more. He's been playing for srsly for less half a year, and he still embarrassed you. Just sayin'.

Tony I don't think speaking truth is considered trolling. If you're this raged over it, I'll stop. I just figured it was about time someone put you in your place for being such a passive-aggressive **** ALL of the time. Mission accomplished.

Plus, it rather bothered me when you decided NM wasn't worth your time, despite Wobbles being here for a tourney (trust me, he's all the competition you'd need).

As for regionals- everyone in the 4 corners is invited/expected to come to NM's tourney in February. This WILL be an NVGA tourney, but it most certainly won't be run by DFG (or anyone like him). It'll be run by Jason, who's a **** cool(er) guy (than DFG).

@Marronator- one of the cooler CO smashers, I assure you. NM loves you, so come down here and play piano like a champion in middleofnowhere Albuquerque! ;D
There's no substance. It's just "lol, usuk", and that's it. You didn't put me in my place. You just made yourself look like a douchebag. I recall you being the one to make attacks on CO before anything else, and making the cute little "passive-aggressive" death threat, so yeah, congrats on doing jack and ****.

Played Wobbles, he's only the competition someone needs if he's on his game. If he plays well, he plays well. If he doesn't, all you need is dsmash>double slap. I've seen it happen, and didn't want to risk spending money on what could have been his bad day. Dun have money to throw around, and all that.

The February tournament actually sounds like it would work really well. Enough time for all the scenes to get their "A" game going again, save up money, pick teams, etc. Also, not having to run the tournament = MAJOR bonus points, for me. Buuuuuuuut if it's during Final Round, I can't come, as a heads-up.

I <3 X. He's the only one talking sense in here. This isn't Days of our Smash or some other drama with the word Smash thrown in it.
This, so hard. I lurve X right now. He needs to come back to CO already. Also, to practice Melee. :D

I also kinda like this GG7 fella. Seems like a pretty chill guy.

---

Completely unrelated - Finished all 3 seasons of Venture Bros. This show is surprisingly well done.
 

Rubyiris

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The top 8 or so players on the AZ PR (only counting active players) are all AT LEAST half-decent. Even outside of AZ's top 4 players, the next 4 or so players are still AT LEAST as good as any of the better players in your state. Even amongst our retired players, they're still significantly better than most of anyone most of the other 4 corner states can throw at us.

Also, I love how you're attempting to argue skill from tournament matches 2 years ago. A tournament 2 months ago is irrelevant, let alone 2 years. People can improve exponentially in a one-month time frame, and often do.

You're a trashkid. Stop talking out of your ***. Get **** on by AZ.
 

Rizen

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To the AZ and CO people in the flame war that's been going on for like 50 posts:
What have you accomplished?
 

mikeHAZE

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yeah, DFG was madd sketch man. i mean in the end we got our money, but he tried to muk me pretty hard. he said that it was listed on the website that the prize was only guaranteed if a certain number of entrants were met. i asked him to show me where on the website it said that.


and into my wallet it went
 

Sinz

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Duly noted. Now get 3-stocked by Magus' Luigi more. He's been playing for srsly for less half a year, and he still embarrassed you. Just sayin'.
K. Have fun with that. Because honestly I don't care. :D I love playing melee, but I don't get practice what so ever. :D Its all good. :D
 

EvoZ

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I love melee too sinz! but really, CO is top dog in four corners, just saying. You can't argue logic.
also, which one was X again?

Guess t3h real truth means that we just need a four corners tournament that's set up by us, and not by some dolt.

Also, victor any update on that fest dawg?
 
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