I completely agree, and have thought the same myself for some time. I just always seem to have trouble actually grabbing more in game. Maybe next time you can help me out with that so I can beat you at least once in my lifetimeGeorge this is a really random observation but I want you to be really good cause you're like one of my favorite people. You need to use Marth's grabs more. Although they don't do much damage they come out really fast (6 frames iirc) and cover a lot of options (especially pivot grab). His f-throw and d-throw can lead into other things too if you can predict their DI out of them (mainly f-throw). Yeah that's all.