I hate that half of the players aren't saying anything.
@frozenflame751: I get what your saying, but if you and VR are scum and that's how you neighborize? And you just backed up his claim to save your scum buddy. It's a double edged sword if one of you turns up scum then the other is a the best candidate for the next scum lynch. On the other hand you could both be as you say you are and have instant town claims.
Also how do you feel about Rei?
DO NOT make this assumption. As has been stated, neighbors are like masons who's alignments are UNCONFIRMED to one another. I have no indication of VR's alignment by being a neighbor of his, nor does he have any indication of mine. The fact that we are neighbors should not be weighed heavily if and when either of our flips are used to analyze the other. What we've been discussing here will be a much better indicator.
I'll talk about Rei at the end of this post.
Activity and discussion is inherently pro-town, and anything that acts as a springboard for activity is pro-town, because without it, the town cannot catch scum.
By this logic, anyone who posts ever is inherently pro-town. Wrong. Being active is generally good, but being active and not scumhunting, attacking easy targets for bad reasons, using WIFOM logic, and a handful of other bad things are ALL anti-town. Generally speaking being active is preferable to being inactive, but that does not make activity inherently pro-town. Certain types of activity are, but activity in and of itself is value neutral.
So... randomly joking about a person's name isn't fluff?
The awesomeness of my name and jokes related to it has no relevance to scumhunting, I suggest you concentrate on it.
Sure, technically that's fluff, but was it the focus of my post? No. Was it constructed in a way meant to distract from the core points of my post? No. Did it in any way muddle the scumhunting in my posts or the points I was trying to make? No. Did it serve to distract anyone from the topic at hand. With the exception of yourself who seems to enjoy making a big deal out of it (which by the way, is making the "fluff" more distracting than it needs to be, thus contradicting what you're telling me to do), no.
Because it did none of those things, I don't know where you're coming from saying there's absolutely no room for anything that isn't direct scum hunting. That's such an outrageous demand that doesn't even focus on what make scummy fluff posting and harmless fluff posting different.
Nice misrepresentation/tunneling, I said she's scum or useless, we can't be sure which (because being a useless townie IS a scum tell, in case you haven't realized this), here's our priorities for kills:
1. Scum
2. Useless/inactive players
We can't afford useless or inactive players in lylo, because one bad vote and it all goes down the drain. Of course finding scum is first priority, but for now, she's my lynch target unless somebody turns out to be more scummy.
Sure this is tunneling, but that doesn't make it bad. Tunneling on issues that are devoid of strong analysis or are just logical dead ends is bad. Tunneling on someone because they're saying scummy **** and need to be pressure is not.
Firstly, being useless is NOT a scum tell. It's a reason to exact greater scrutiny on a player, but not a straight up scum tell. There's a very common predicament of "scum or dumb" that you'll run into A LOT when playing mafia. It's part of the game and a very important one at that to be able to discern dumb townie play from intentional underhanded or otherwise detrimental scum play. INTENT is a huge part of analyzing posts, and you seem to be far too focus on simple content to even realize that importance. INTENT is what separates dumb town posts from scum posts.
Scum benefit from anti-town actions, so anti-town actions mean somebody is more likely to be scum.
The nice thing about useless players and inactives is that them being in the game is anti-town, so if we lynch then and they flips scum, awesome. If we lynch them and they flip town, it's still one less wasted seat.
This is especially important in lylo.
First two sentences are just plain wrong, going back to the "dumb or scum" predicament. It doesn't make people more likely to be scum at all, it just means that they need to be scrutinized in order to figure out what their true intent was.
Lynching townies regardless of how "useless" you might deem them is just straight up anti-town. You base your entire case for how "good" it is to get rid of them by fear mongering and saying that if you let them live to lylo they will absolutely drop the ball and make the town lose. This is a horrbly flawed assumption, and an ironic line of argument to take coming from the guy who was just earlier telling me I shouldn't be afraid of voting because "we were nowhere near a lynch and no where near lylo". So when should we be afraid of lylo? When you say we should? When it best suits your value judgements?
Yay for tunneling, my scum-senses are tingeling.
You support a DAY 1 FIRST RL DAY QUICKLYNCH!
Unvote
Vote: Gheb_01
How obvious you gotta make it? Seriously.
Soft-pushing for inactivity, pushing for a quicklynch on the first day the thread is open, crazy tunneling... are you just trying to get lynched?
Even though these accusations are complete BS, I'm curious as to how Gheb earned your vote when by your logic I'm guilty of basically everything that he's done, except I did it first.
So why Gheb over me? Or do you just not have a reason because you're scum feeling the pressure and just wanted to lash out on the most recent attacker?
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A few other notes:
People who think that discussing adum in greater detail will lead to us forgetting about Vult and what he's done are just ****ing dumb. I'd like to think we have memories that last longer than 24 hours here people. Just because the focus of the game is dynamic and moves around doesn't mean we can't go back to old issues or discuss what we have previously. We play in an uneditable thread for a reason, to be able to GO BACK and bring old topics and questions back up when they become relevant.
Still slightly suspicious of Rei but its just a nagging feeling. Adum saying he thinks Rei is a "little scummy" kind of in a non-committal and unprovoked manner makes me think they could be scum buddies but its not a connection I'm sold on.
Still really confident that adum is the play today.
@ Overswarm: How is Gheb being jumpy? From what I see he's got a strong read on adum like me and is anything BUT jumpy. Regardless, whatever you might be defining "jumpy" as, wouldn't I be equally "jumpy" by your logic, and if so why does Gheb get this particular distinction and attention despite our obvious similarities? I find it curious that you just decided to call his actions into question as if they were principally isolated.
