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We have it with customs on I'm pretty sure. We've had an honor system for equipment that has somehow not caused a single issue yet. So we don't wanna limit the Miis if we don't need to.
MK beat Ganon arguably worse than Olimar did. The problem is that no MK players seriously took time to learn the Ganon MU (lol why would they). MK ***** every character below mid tier like beyond belief.
You misunderstand. Mii dimensions and mii moves are both not restricted by customizations-off. There's no limiting at all, just equipment gets banned.
This just wasn't true in any of my experience.
Or not be influenced by stock leads/deficits. (Actually is that still a thing in 4 anyway?)
It is not.
I'd bet money the 3DS patch is just to bring it up to speed with the Wii U changes. We've already seen the Luma respawn nerf, and I heard Yoshi's teleports, Wario's vector glitch, etc. are also gone.
Given how this game is balanced and how damage per hit was really carefully focused on, I'm inclined to mostly agree. I mean seriously...a lot of the imbalance in this game really comes down to reward. It's the reason why Yoshi works and isn't simply mid tier. It's also the reason why Sonic is cancer status. I mean yeah, you have some exceptions like Sheik and Rosalina who have exceptional control moves, although this is also made better by the fact that they actually have clearly good damage output (factoring that they have reliable combos and safe traps to make up for cases where their individual damage per hit appears low).
Double damage Zelda F-smash, Naryus, F-air/B-air, and D-tilt are pretty serious business though. I agree that Zelda is more balanced around the difficulty of performing in neutral, but she does have good moves that have to be respected.
Theory exercises like this do have value, regardless of your (in)ability to understand such.
Might not hit characters with low crouches, not sure. Limited forward range is something of a problem, but it's not like he really has better options... Just leaves him marginally more vulnerable to powershielding.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Luma nerf was made at least semi-independently of community feedback. They probably kept testing the Wii U version for a while after the final 3DS version.
I feel like Yoshi is more broken in the latest build of BBrawl. Double shield damage aerials mang. I mean seriously, Smash 4 Yoshi D-air is probably the real reason he'll remain top tier in this game.
I actually never updated to the very last version that totally overhauled the Ice Climbers and such. It didn't really seem necessary and there were no Olimar nerfs.
As much as I'd like for it to be true that Rosa is a high ceiling character that will only get better, I think the reverse is true, there's more to be gained learning to counter her unique mechanic than there is in learning to use it. For instance Rosalina can learn to put Luma ahead for an ftilt, backwards ftilt, ftilt combo, but someone with rosa matchup experience can do you one better and not go inbetween Rosa and luma, attacking luma from front instead. A lot of desync play is cheesy and puts Luma in a lot of risk, especially against the game's top tier.
Part of the skill ceiling for Rosa is learning how to protect their Luma. It should definitely be possible to place Luma such that if the opponent attacks Luma, Rosalina can punish.
I agree, that's why I've been suggesting it for ages
For some reason I feel like Rosalina wont be top tier after time passes. top 10-15 because people will figure out how to get passedher moves.
Well, when we discussed his moveset and settled on his aerials being very good, I assumed that translated to 'better than the majority of the cast' otherwise his aerials wouldn't be considered very good. And since that seems like literally the only part of Bowser Jr's game that people agree on, it seemed like a pretty good starting point for the conversation. So far several people have offered the opinion that he's pretty good off stage, and you've held to your opinion that he isn't. Mostly, it seems like, because you think his recovery is identical to Wario but without 'versatility'. I would be very interested to hear what versatility you think that Bowser Jr lacks relative to Wario, and which characters you think have an easy time edge guarding Bowser Jr. This has potential to be a larger conversation about what makes a character good at edge guarding (aerial mobility, recovery, speed, priority, range?) and, from there, a discussion on which characters have enough of those characteristics to dominate the rest of the cast off stage.
Please this. It would be such an easy patch, and it's really needed.
Aura is actually gradual, it doesn't "kick in" at any percent, it just progressively gets better as he gets higher damage.
No, I'm actually fine with his aura being gradually better instead of giving him at an arbitrary number.
In addition to the 13 seconds it takes Luma to respawn, you also have to factor in the 3 seconds or so of slow death tumbling animation every time Luma gets knocked off the stage. So knocking Luma off the stage means that Rosalina will have to go solo for about 16 seconds or so.
