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@Cassio mentioned it, but as far as I know Pikachus have been doing it for a while.
It's just one of the hilariously many things pikachu can do to you offstage.
btw guys we have a thread for best back air somewhere
We cannot deny it...Falco's is the quickest, except in landing lag. The attack comes out just as fast as MK's F-Tilt.
I said I can argue, it doesn't mean I will. Putting Ganondorf in there was a joke in the first place because of his huge frame window needed to attack.
Honestly, I don't know. I've noticed this fairly early on but figured it was a property of grabbing the ledge with QA, because Pika's recovery from the ledge is insane and I'm wondering why they made it that way.
Pika can escape from the ledge much earlier than other characters (was it 10 frames earlier?). I'd probably just roll/getup and take a weak punish from Pikachu than try anything risky if I have no other choice but to grab the edge.
Falco's Bair is frame 4 just like Sheik, Mega Man, and Pikachu's. Of the 4, Pikachu's stays out the longest since it's a multi-hit while Falco and Sheik's are one hit and Mega Man's a three-hit Bair. Pikachu's Bair stays out for 30 frames, Sheik's is out for 11 frames with the strong hit at frames 4-6 and the weak hit at frames 7-14, Falco's lasts only for 8 frames with the strong hit out for frames 4-5 and the weak hit for frames 6-11, and Mega Man's Bair out for 7 frames with the first hit at frame 4-4, second at 7-7, and the third hit at 10-10. For range, Sheik has the most range and it looks like a sex kick, but I'm not sure, then probably Mega Man, Falco, and Pikachu, but I'm not sure on Pikachu since Pikachu spins parallel to the ground.
I believe this really should get more emphasis. The performance of footsies is what sets the bad players from the good players, and what sets the good players from the great players.
This is a misapplication of the word footsies. What you are describing with "reading his opponent" and "making the right guess" is just called reading. This is not how a strong neutral game is played, though reads are certainly one way to win a match. Playing footsies generally means baiting and punishing from midrange. It isn't about reading your opponent, but instead making your opponent make a mistake or spacing yourself so that no matter what your opponent does he leaves himself open to your attack (for instance, when I move Pikachu into d-tilt range, I know I'm winning the footsie war).
1111 Mii Brawler is pretty terrible; I'd be surprised if Dedede didn't beat him/her but can't say for sure since no-one (apart from Scourge, apparently) plays the character.
Mega Man fires two Danger Wraps if he lands at the same time it fires. I'd guess it's the ground and air variants combined.
To my knowledge, there is no difference between the ground and air variants. They both deal the same damage with the same trajectory. I'd imagine it's something similar to the lightweight platform glitch where the game is just being confused.
nice, that makes it an AT which is potentially very dangerous no?
This has been my life with samus.
Ganon's d-throw is actually very very good. I don't know if I can start comparing it to other throws of other characters, but his throw generally lead to a lot of combos influenced by DI.
God...I wish I could watch this, but I have to sleep early because I have SATs at 7 AM.FYI shockwave is about to start. This will probably be the last time I post this reminder as most people should know about them by now, and don't want to get in trouble with the mods.
No, buffered roll/attack doesn't get ledge trumped, but since you have to input the option immediately, it's much easier to punish. Against most characters you can wait on the ledge a little bit, and if the character guesses wrong and ledge trumps you while you're getting up, the character is stuck on the ledge and you can set up. Pikachu spends less time on the ledge, so he doesn't care about that. He can read the buffered getup and punish you for it. All of the ledge options except for ledge roll can be punished by roll behind (into grab or aerial). The ledge roll requires a dash attack.
Same with buffered ledge jump, no? I'd also add that because of the immediacy of the action, it is easier to read as your opponent has less time to think.
Tether grabbers have an even better ledge time than Pikachu, I believe.
But only when they tether, if my understanding is correct (mostly from the Iz@w video)
Wait, it's an Electric-type move? I thought it was Normal-, Flying-, or even Dark-type... One second thought... it's probably a Steel-type move since Mega Man's is a robot.
I'd probably argue that Slash Claw is fighting type, based on how Slash Man is.Wait, it's an Electric-type move? I thought it was Normal-, Flying-, or even Dark-type... One second thought... it's probably a Steel-type move since Mega Man's is a robot.
Even then, Slash Claw can still push someone far away that Mega Man won't get super punished for it in comparison to Falco whiffing his Bair and Pikachu has a landing hit, right? As for Sheik, well, she's fast, her Bair has range, so she could escape punishment.
Well, there are Pokémon that people argued should have been this type and type even though they don't look like it. Charizard looks like a Dragon-type, but isn't one without Charizardite X. Anyway, I digress.
Good luck, dude!
Y'all are probably tired of me randomly popping in to mention DHD, but there's ledge trump possibilities what with setting cans near the ledge for double coverage when you pop someone off.
Hmm, but what was with the constantly counterpicking ΩPalutena's instead of a stage with Lightweight-recharging platforms?Man Areolink put on quite a show with Paulutena but not enough of one defeat Denti's Diddy. He got a little greedy but I honestly think he was VERY close. That D-throw -> Nair -> Up air was godlike.
No clue why he was doing that, I guess he likes the stages and it is Palutena's territory after all. Still I was rooting so bad for him that it really annoyed me lol. I mean goddamn he coulda had it with some platforms.. or at least he woulda had a better chance at having it.
Now that I think about it, Slash Claw is probably Rock type. It's great against airborne opponents but vulnerable to the ground. Anyway...
This is a lot harder to answer than I originally thought. I guess...I'm not sure how you can really measure the worth and "usefulness" of something that just...exists. Low % dthrow combos are common in the roster, and if you can take advantage of someone's landing frames with another dthrow. It's a nice string, and if it works then you should use it. You're maximizing damage output by stringing dthrow combos together, like any other strings. The only difference is you're using more than one grab in the combo/string.
Someone (Bwett I think?) talked about it last week, Aerolink LOVES Final Destination. So that was a preference pick and not a strategic one. But it certainly seems like a poor choice especially against someone like Diddy who is quick but often not quick enough to punish lightweight refreshes.
