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Cataclysm 5 - "Melee Legends" Suggest Falco players now!

KAOSTAR

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Thats actually a really good idea. Im pretty sure Hbox will still be chosen and mango might be picked as a diff character. And less boring puff **** to watch.

puff isnt even a legendary character anyway.
 

HollaAtchaBoy

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Take off jiggs and have two wild cards
I'm actually quite fine with this idea for the above reasons. All of the major Puff players have other characters that are far more interesting to watch.

Go back to Pound 4. Everyone was seriously overdrive beast mode hyped for M2K versus Armada. Like... friendlies-ceased-to-happen hyped. Comparatively, no one cared to watch Mango and HBox, since it essentially just boiled down to who can space bairs better.

No one wants to watch a Puff crew.
 

trahhSTEEZY

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I'm actually quite fine with this idea for the above reasons. All of the major Puff players have other characters that are far more interesting to watch.

Go back to Pound 4. Everyone was seriously overdrive beast mode hyped for M2K versus Armada. Like... friendlies-ceased-to-happen hyped. Comparatively, no one cared to watch Mango and HBox, since it essentially just boiled down to who can space bairs better.

No one wants to watch a Puff crew.
nahh completely unfair and i really hope it's not even considered. since when is crews all about how entertaining it is? Sure that's obviously a fun factor but to take out jiggs because she *****/isn't the most entertaining character is silly. And of course jiggs is legendary to whoever said that, she changed EVERYTHING-

also the hbox/mango finals example wasn't a very good example :/ jiggs dittos isn't the same as jiggs being in a crew, and of course it wasn't interesitng to watch, it was two american jigglypuffs in a national worldwide tournament, people wanted a OOC player to be in the finals. two puffs just upset people, and of course it was mango so people just expected the win.

oh and no, hbox will not be chosen if this actually did happen.

aaaand what other character does hbox play that's anywhere near on the level of his puff? He's just got that puff style that doesn't seem like it'd apply as well with other char's. I actually even remmeber him posting about how he tried picking up other char's after how much people ***** about him, but he couldnt do it. 'just wasn't the same'
 

KAOSTAR

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@M2k, Im sure ken would be happy to step in....NEXT!
nahh completely unfair and i really hope it's not even considered. since when is crews all about how entertaining it is? Sure that's obviously a fun factor but to take out jiggs because she *****/isn't the most entertaining character is silly. And of course jiggs is legendary to whoever said that, she changed EVERYTHING-

also the hbox/mango finals example wasn't a very good example :/ jiggs dittos isn't the same as jiggs being in a crew, and of course it wasn't interesitng to watch, it was two american jigglypuffs in a national worldwide tournament, people wanted a OOC player to be in the finals. two puffs just upset people, and of course it was mango so people just expected the win.

oh and no, hbox will not be chosen if this actually did happen.

aaaand what other character does hbox play that's anywhere near on the level of his puff? He's just got that puff style that doesn't seem like it'd apply as well with other char's. I actually even remmeber him posting about how he tried picking up other char's after how much people ***** about him, but he couldnt do it. 'just wasn't the same'
Its fair lol. The TO makes the rules for this crew. If he wanted to do a M2, pika, samus, marth legends then he could.

Also Hbox would be chosen 4 sure as a wild card. Probably first. Crews typically are about hype, but *****s do wanna win.

Whether the idea flourishes or not it one thing, but its a legitimate thought. Mango prob doesnt want to puff, Hbox could still puff, and things would be more exciting in the terms that there arent 4 puffs playing in the crews.

No disrespect to puffs, but its not really as fun to watch. I think most of the community would agree.
 

Shellshock821

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I actually want to see a puff crew. Then again I seem to be in a minority of the community that likes watching Puffs play. I used to love watching Mango pick Puff and work people a lot in the past, and watching Hbox rest people never gets old. If there's any argument against it, it should be that outside of Mango and Hbox just how many truly high level Jiggs are there? The closest is Darc, other then that no other Jiggs outside of the top two Jiggs ever got as good as say King. So that's what, three potential Puffs that play at a really high level to choose for this.

It's plausible to assume that both Mango and Hbox will be picked just for how good they are. Mango will go under another character, and Hbox will be picked on the side so it kind of works out regardless. It's really only a pain if both Darc and King go and want to play in this, as they're both good enough to do well in it. Also if there's some other high level puff out there that I'm missing out please let me know. No disrespect meant, I serisouly can't think of nobody else that plays a high calibur Puff.

@Mew2King: You sir, are thinking wrong. Screw Marth and Sheik, get on the Fox team. That is all. ;)
 

Alukard

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So i really would love to do a samus team ... having hugs coach me sounds beast ... did u see that PRO coaching at genesis when mango got surprised butt sexed by armada ...

hugs got all up in his ear said sumthing only captain america would say to the avengers and BOOM BOOM POW ...

mango got all USA rocky balboa in that a$$ =]]]]]]]


anywayyyyy ... point is ... i want me some confirmation cuz im kinda hyped LOL
 

Solid Jake

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So I think it's about time we start getting ready to vote on the top players to represent each character.

Let's start with suggestions for who should be in the running for Fox, shall we?
 

S l o X

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pretty obvious but:

Jman - East Coast's finest Fox. Doesn't let down and is considered one of the best foxes . . . period.

Lucky - WC's Jman? Not as consistent I guess but pretty good. Definitely one of the top fox mains.
 

Hax

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fox: jman lucky colbol pc
falco: zhu pp dsw chops
jiggs: darc hbox mango _______
shiek: amsah tope overtriforce ______
marth: m2k hbk ______ ________
peach: armada vanz _______ ________
falcon: ss darkrain hax scar

fill in the blanks and were good
 

Solid Jake

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fox: jman lucky colbol pc
falco: zhu pp dsw chops
jiggs: darc hbox mango _______
shiek: amsah tope overtriforce KoreanDJ
marth: m2k hbk ______ ________
peach: armada vanz Cort ________
falcon: ss darkrain hax scar

fill in the blanks and were good
I do agree with this, / added KDJ / Cort
 

Jimbo Slice

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Hax has good picks

fox: jman lucky colbol pc
falco: zhu pp dsw chops
jiggs: darc hbox mango Sliq
shiek: amsah tope overtriforce KDJ
marth: m2k hbk Taj Strawhats
peach: armada vanz Cort Xif
falcon: ss darkrain hax scar

fill in the blanks and were good
But does anyone really want to see that much Puff?
 

trahhSTEEZY

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once again, characters shouldn't be taken out jus tbecause they're not insanely entertaining. That's somewhat like banning jiggs from a tournament.

Also, I keep seeing OOC players listed in this, is this a national/worldwide tournament? I'm not aware of this tournament too much so yeah.

If it is, then this list is going to be insanely hard to make..so many of the votes will be american-player based, since 90% of this forum is filled with americans who don't know the skill of all these european players.

I know there's fox's in europe on the same level if not higher than colbol, same could go with some of the falcos..such as Calle W, hell, i'm not even knowledged enough to list off lots of euro's but i know alot of their top players that haven't travlled to genesis/pound won't be voted :/

This concept does ****, it's just gonna be really really hard to make legitely if there's OOC players attending.
 

DJRome

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id rather see vanz puff than sliq tbh. actually, just no puff. just do a top 4 chars:

fox falco marth sheik and then 2 wildcards for each crew
 

omegawhitemage

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When one character has been winning every major for over a year, regardless of how entertaining it is to watch, that character deserves a regular spot in the battle. If I recall correctly some of the most entertaining combos I've ever seen in this game have come from Jiggs in major crew battles. So yeah, Jiggs stays.
 

DJRome

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right. except that 4 puffs is too much. #4 is not nearly as good as any other replacement that would be possible
 

omegawhitemage

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Well whichever team ends up with the number four Puff is going to need to make sure that the other members of their team can make up for the 'weakness' of their Puff player. That's all part of the strategy involved in choosing your players and shouldn't be removed because of the perceived weakness of one of their players. Underdogs have been known to do great things in the past.
 

DJRome

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or

instead of forcing a character unnecessarily, those people would be chosen as wildcards and a better player can be in the crew instead of a worse puff
 

omegawhitemage

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Actually now that I've thought about it I don't think that it matters either way. If we include Puff they all get chosen and if we don't then they all get chosen. So either way the extra wild card spot would go to a Puff player. Except for the one extra spot if no 'worthy' Puff player would be there. So ultimately the argument is pretty pointless.
 

strawhats

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im surprised hax didnt mention mike G among the other names (armada, cort, xif). I love vanz's peach too though.

Too bad pink shinobi is retired from tournament play.
 

Cia

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Fox - Jman, P.c Chris, Lucky, Col Bol
Falco - Lambchops, DaShizWiz, Dr. Peepee, Th0rn
Sheik - Tope, KirbyKaze*, Teczero, Drephen*
Captain Falcon - Hax, Darkrain*, Silent Spectre*, Scar*
Jigglypuff - Hungrybox, Mango, Darc, Raistlin*
Peach - VaNz, Cort, Vwins, Xelic*
Marth - HBK, M2K*, Tink*, Falcomist*

* means i'm not sure if that player will be attending. and i didn't add Europeans to my list because I haven't even seen European support for this event.. lol. So w/o Europe, I'm thinking crews will look something like that.
 
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