that list is crazy...most of those "bad moves" are extremely useful situationally. i think the first 6 are legit bad moves. but after that, lulz. I honestly don't know much of sonic's upsmash so I have no room to judge.
Wario's upsmash is decent when used as a dacus....or the fact that you can cancel the dash attack into it (as in hitting them with the dash attack than canceling the ending lag and upsmashing.
link's up-b can be a decent out of shield option.......especially when you know that there first reaction to hitting your shield is spot dodging.
don't know much of gnw's uptilt....other than it is a weak uptilt....which typically are amazing. they link into themselves from 0-40....but honestly don't know enough about his specific uptilt to judge.
DDD's down b, garbz
i don't know how exactly you punish pika's downsmash. I almost always am able to DI out of it, but it usually throws me a good enough distance that even if I tech it, I still don't have time to punish it.
maybe it's because i'm bad, but pit's side b really frustrates me when I'm on the ledge or close to the edge.
sheik's down air is definitely not that bad. the stall is good in some cases (i.e. your opponent whiffs an up smash...or they attack your shield and you read they're going to spot dodge.....weak hit = combo power)
I don't see how I could possibly defend ZSS down air....it's garbz
her smashes have good range.....enough said. but i will say more. they let you have more options in certain situations than you normally would.
maybe it's because I'm a falco main, but I particularly hate ice climber's uptilt lol.
bowser's down b has already been covered by nima. he said basically what I was thinking when i read that.
oh and glad you corrected yourself about peach's uptilt. that was the most wtf? one I saw.
oh and that list is null and void. it doesn't include sheik's down b. that move is garbz
Wario's upsmash is decent when used as a dacus....or the fact that you can cancel the dash attack into it (as in hitting them with the dash attack than canceling the ending lag and upsmashing.
link's up-b can be a decent out of shield option.......especially when you know that there first reaction to hitting your shield is spot dodging.
don't know much of gnw's uptilt....other than it is a weak uptilt....which typically are amazing. they link into themselves from 0-40....but honestly don't know enough about his specific uptilt to judge.
DDD's down b, garbz
i don't know how exactly you punish pika's downsmash. I almost always am able to DI out of it, but it usually throws me a good enough distance that even if I tech it, I still don't have time to punish it.
maybe it's because i'm bad, but pit's side b really frustrates me when I'm on the ledge or close to the edge.
sheik's down air is definitely not that bad. the stall is good in some cases (i.e. your opponent whiffs an up smash...or they attack your shield and you read they're going to spot dodge.....weak hit = combo power)
I don't see how I could possibly defend ZSS down air....it's garbz
her smashes have good range.....enough said. but i will say more. they let you have more options in certain situations than you normally would.
maybe it's because I'm a falco main, but I particularly hate ice climber's uptilt lol.
bowser's down b has already been covered by nima. he said basically what I was thinking when i read that.
oh and glad you corrected yourself about peach's uptilt. that was the most wtf? one I saw.
oh and that list is null and void. it doesn't include sheik's down b. that move is garbz
Obv needs to play me more to fix that opinion
