Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

[Pikaville]

The ACR has the slowest time to kill out of any of the ACRs.

Man I laughed so hard when I read this and I don't really know why.

 

[Fletch]

Man I laughed so hard when I read this and I don't really know why.

I don't get it? It's very true, I can post the numbers if you want. The only thing that *can* have a higher TTK is a FAMAS/M16 at max range sans SP which no one in their right mind would use. Every other scenario it gets destroyed.

 

[BanjoKazooiePro]

48-10 Estate TDM. Highest scoring TDM I've ever gotten, and Tim was there to witness!

 

[xLeafybug =D]

I don't get it? It's very true, I can post the numbers if you want. The only thing that *can* have a higher TTK is a FAMAS/M16 at max range sans SP which no one in their right mind would use. Every other scenario it gets destroyed.

He's laughing at the typo you made. You said the ACR has the highest TTK out of all of the ACRs.

 

[Wretched]

Oh, I use:
FAMAS/M16 (red dot or ACOG)
M1041 (the shotgun with a 4 clip) (silencer or grip)
Marathon
Cold-Blooded
Commando
I usually use the shotgun. I do well.
Its not a gimmick if you use it and it works.

 

[xLeafybug =D]

Not saying that you can't do well with it, hell, anything's possible, but that is a horrible class setup.

 

[smash brawl player 99021]

Not saying that you can't do well with it, hell, anything's possible, but that is a horrible class setup.

It's funny 'cause you always ***** about how the FAMAS is the best gun ever.

 

[Wretched]

Says every sleight/SP/[commando/ninja] player, but until you try it out you should judge otherwise.
when you say anything is possible, it makes me feel like you're saying the chances of doing anything with it is low, but I pull my full killstreak setup almost every time.

 

[smash brawl player 99021]

Says every sleight/SP/[commando/ninja] player, but until you try it out you should judge otherwise.
when you say anything is possible, it makes me feel like you're saying the chances of doing anything with it is low, but I pull my full killstreak setup almost every time.

I agree, everyone uses their super try-hard class sitting in a corner, but they hardly use a "Dark Horse" class. Like my F2000 <3

inb4ps3complainers

 

[xLeafybug =D]

If by complainers, you mean people who find enjoyment in winning, and are good at the game, then yes, I'm a huge complainer, and a massive try-hard.

About half of my classes are joke classes now. This game becomes exhausting pretty quickly if you don't handicap yourself. This game has become, and it's very rare that we run into anyone who stands the slightest chance against us, on Xbox or PS3. Don't assume only by what I post here that I take this game that seriously.

 

[Wretched]

Haha.
"we too good"
Everyone thinks they're good at modern warfare. My little sister picked up the controller and thought she was good. my friend went 4-14 (A WHOLE GAME) and thought he was a beast.
There isn't too big of a gap between winning and losing, really.

 

[smash brawl player 99021]

Haha.
"we too good"
Everyone thinks they're good at modern warfare. My little sister picked up the controller and thought she was good. my friend went 4-14 (A WHOLE GAME) and thought he was a beast.
There isn't too big of a gap between winning and losing, really.

I agree again. Saying "Oh I went 34-2 on Scrapyard with the Tar" means "I camped for my killstreaks, and they got half my kills". You're not really good, but your killstreaks are.

 

[F8AL]

Killstreaks can make anyone good at this game. Like, a noob can get an AC-130 from a care package, get 10 kills with it and make them think that they're "good" at the game.

But I love it when my harrier does work. :D

 

[Wretched]

Yeah. Harrier has to be the best offensive killstreak. On highrise (post popular level IIRC), if you get a harrier, the match is pretty done. The only time you can't do well with it is spawn campers.

 

[Colonel Cuddles]

I went 36-6 with my Scar-H FMJ. Only 2 kills with my Chopper Gunner. I fail at CG. Anyways, I have found new love for my SCAR, just got extendo mags, this things seriously broken, but I love it lol.

 

[Fletch]

He's laughing at the typo you made. You said the ACR has the highest TTK out of all of the ACRs.

Ha sorry was in a total rush at work writing that. That is pretty funny, I'm going to leave it.

EDIT: That class sucks because the FAMAS kind of blows without SP.

 

[Gifts]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYPTS2zJcjg


Ughhhh I hate you MW2. (((((((((((((

 

[Pikaville]

I don't get it? It's very true, I can post the numbers if you want. The only thing that *can* have a higher TTK is a FAMAS/M16 at max range sans SP which no one in their right mind would use. Every other scenario it gets destroyed.

Read REALLY carefully what you posted originally.

Oh, someone already told you.

 

[:mad:]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYPTS2zJcjg


Ughhhh I hate you MW2. (((((((((((((

Would've been nice if the first two shots weren't so sloppy.

 

[F8AL]

Do you always spam the 'back' button when you die?

 

[BanjoKazooiePro]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYPTS2zJcjg


Ughhhh I hate you MW2. (((((((((((((

If I had a penny for every time that has happened to me, I'd be a rich man.

Do you always spam the 'back' button when you die?

I do that too for some reason without even thinking. It's habitual after a while.

 

[Gifts]

Would've been nice if the first two shots weren't so sloppy.

Yeah I know, especially the first shot. I don't know why i hard scoped the poop out of him.

Do you always spam the 'back' button when you die?

When I'm frustrated? Yes, haha.

 

[Wretched]

Ha sorry was in a total rush at work writing that. That is pretty funny, I'm going to leave it.

EDIT: That class sucks because the FAMAS kind of blows without SP.

Actually, I usually used the shotgun, as I stated in my post
I interchangably used UMP45, but I rarely actually pulled it out.

 

[xLeafybug =D]

I agree again. Saying "Oh I went 34-2 on Scrapyard with the Tar" means "I camped for my killstreaks, and they got half my kills". You're not really good, but your killstreaks are.

Oh, I'm sorry, I guess I didn't realize using high killstreaks makes you a bad player.

I just went 37-3 in a TDM on Scrapyard with the Mini-Uzi and UAV-CUAV-Airstrike Killstreak setup, and we still lost.

 

[Wretched]

Haha
Team death match.

 

[BanjoKazooiePro]

Not to start a flame war or anything, but I still see the word "camping" being used a bit too loosely.

Take into consideration that MW2 is a killstreak based game, meaning when you get your killstreaks, you're more than likely going to post a high score. Knowing this, you're going to try to die as little as possible if you want to get those high killstreaks, which is when people get accused of camping. Say I kill someone rushing through the middle of the map, and in the killcam it's just me hard aiming with a famas the whole time. I can say with confidence that at least 90% of people would call that camping and start screaming at the game for being stupid, unfair, ridiculous, gay, etc. The list just goes on.

First off, how the **** do people define camping? To me, it's a kid sitting in a corner for literally the entire match waiting for people to run by, which is a pretty reasonable definition if you want my opinion. Whenever I earn killstreaks, it's typically me with an AR covering an area of the map, staying behind my teammates. Since I don't move often, people scream at me for camping.

Well, in a game where you pretty much need killstreaks to post high scores, and you can die by most guns in 2 bullets, why would I run through the middle of the map trying to get kills? Oh yeah, because most people consider that or "rushing" skillful. To be honest, you're an idiot if you think that running through the middle of the map with an unsilenced weapon getting at least 1 kill per life you use is skill as opposed to someone staying in one area and getting a nice killstreak. It's not camping, it's defensive, smart gameplay, and flame me as much as you want for that because it's the truth.

Any intelligent player should understand up to this point that you need to play this game defensively to do well unless you're playing a bunch of brain dead monkeys smoking crack. By that I don't mean window camping with a famas the whole game, but just being cautious and aware of your surroundings in general. Even if you rush an entire game and post a high score and get a good killstreak, I won't tell you how amazing you are at this game. Although it's impressive sometimes, usually it involves playing a bunch of pretty pathetic people.

So when I kill you in the same area several times and you call me a camper, I'll just simply respond by thanking you for being such a nice gentlemen and giving me easy kills for my streak. I don't care if you say I'm bad because I stand behind a wall with a famas, because fact of the matter is, I'm the smarter player. If I keep killing people in the same spot, how is that camping? You keep coming back, be angry at yourself. Not gonna move if I keep getting kills in one spot, that's idiotic.

Just to sum everything up, don't call people campers just because they're playing the game the smart way. It's MW2, and certain methods will get you killed for sure, and you should know that instead of complaining about the guy in the back killing you with a sniper over and over. Games like this are about playing tactically and giving yourself an advantage, and defensive play is doing just that. Call me a camper all you like, but If I'm getting high scores, I don't care how I do it. It's your fault for getting killed and you're probably not doing yourself any good by continuously whining about how you keep dying all the time because you're playing the game in a stupid manner, so just give it a rest.

Some people think skill involves running around the map like a chicken with its head cut off, I think it involves playing the game strategically and smart.

Edit: I don't aim these rants at anyone in specific, I'm just trying to convey a point.

 

[Wretched]

You havent seen people camp at the spawn and snipe, hoping for a blindfire headshot?
I think thats what people are talking about.

 

[BanjoKazooiePro]

I've never seen anyone camp in a spawn, not scoped in, hoping for a no scope headshot, no. By the way, what's wrong with camping a spawn with a sniper?

 

[Fletch]

Good stuff BKP, I play very similarly. I don't care if people call me a camper though, I'm too busy getting kills haha.

 

[Wretched]

I've never seen anyone camp in a spawn, not scoped in, hoping for a no scope headshot, no. By the way, what's wrong with camping a spawn with a sniper?

Nothing is wrong with it, but thats who people consider "campers." I personally don't care.

Unrelated to you, almost every Mw2 player must have no gag reflex.

im 2 buzy gettin' kills

I'm really sick of people stroking their ego and everything else because they play MW2 and do what everyone else does.

 

[Fletch]

I was being sarcastic, but kind of serious. Anyone can be good at this game as long as you're patient. Besides, I'm not really anything special at this game anyways, the other PS3 players are better than me.

 

[RuNNing Riot]

@Banjo - You've got to be kidding me. I distinctly remember you complaining about people camping doorways to get kills, which is when Kewkky stepped in and berated you for it. Now you turn around and say that people doing the very same thing which you were previously calling skill-less are just playing smart and you've no problem with it. Justify yourself or I can't take your comment seriously.

Also, I really do not care if camping is the right thing to do - I don't like it either way. There's a difference between doing something skilful and playing smart. Hardaiming's smart, but can you seriously tell me that it takes a lot of practice to aim at one spot all day and shoot anything that moves? Or planting a claymore then going and hardaiming at one spot?

 

[Colonel Cuddles]

For me:
SCAR H
Use it like an SMG/AR
Rush like hell
Only go on the defensive once I've got my killstreak going
???????????????????????
PROFIT

 

[F8AL]

I'll do whatever gets my kill streaks.

 

[BanjoKazooiePro]

@Banjo - You've got to be kidding me. I distinctly remember you complaining about people camping doorways to get kills, which is when Kewkky stepped in and berated you for it. Now you turn around and say that people doing the very same thing which you were previously calling skill-less are just playing smart and you've no problem with it. Justify yourself or I can't take your comment seriously.

Also, I really do not care if camping is the right thing to do - I don't like it either way. There's a difference between doing something skilful and playing smart. Hardaiming's smart, but can you seriously tell me that it takes a lot of practice to aim at one spot all day and shoot anything that moves? Or planting a claymore then going and hardaiming at one spot?

I do complain about it, but if I complain about it, it's because someone is doing exactly what I said is camping. I run into lots of people who will never move from the same spot for an entire game, not even covering an area, just sitting in a corner or one exact spot not moving. I clearly said that covering an area is not camping in any way shape or form, which it isn't, but I can easily tell if someone has not moved an inch from one spot. That's camping, and yes, I complain about that a lot because that's taking it to a whole new level. Today I was in a game where I got killed 5 times in the same spot by the same person, who was there for 4 minutes straight. There's a difference.

Have you ever watched GB games or competitive games in general? You're going to be bored to death by watching slayers because all they do is hard aim around a corner with SoH the whole game. I hope you understand that in objective games, which is all competitive play is, half of the game is to DEFEND, which the game tells you to do. If the enemy has to come to me to win, are you seriously going to call me bad/unskillfull for camping or hard aiming waiting for you because that's what you need to do to win? I use this as an example because pub games mean jack ****ing **** my friend. Competitive gameplay is where the above average players go to challenge themselves, and it's a pretty accurate measure of how good someone actually is at the game. After they get kills and the game is over, they don't shun themselves for hard aiming and camping corners, it's the smart thing to do.

The word skill means 0 to me. Anyone can tell me I have no skill whatsoever and I'm terrible at this game, but I'll just simply ask them why it is that my score is 5 times higher than theirs, which is usually the case. There is no clear cut definition of what it means to be skillful in this game. To me, it's posting a high score and helping out your team to win the game. I don't give a flying **** how I do it, because if I'm getting the most kills, it's because I'm playing smarter most likely. You can't tell me it takes more skill to rush than hard aim, because both of them involve a strategy depending on what you're playing. When you rush you're catching people off guard or being aggressive with a powerful gun, and that's essentially what hard aiming is. If I'm hard aiming, and you sprint around a corner near me, I'll catch you off guard and kill you. It's just how you go about doing it that is different, which is being stationary or not....and I can't really say that running around in this game is skillful, because that's far from the point if you watch competitive gameplay, which involves people who are actually good.

It's up to you how you want to judge how good or bad someone is. Personally, I think winning the game using strategy and smart techniques is infinitely more rewarding and skillful than running around with a silenced UMP with marathon and lightweight getting as many kills as possible, and takes more talent. This game is about strategy, not how amazing and skillful you are. The point of every single game is to win, so by all means, do what must be done to do so. No one here, or anywhere for that matter, will convince me it takes more skill to rush than it does win the game strategically, even if it means hard aiming all game covering an area to do so. Keep in mind these are all opinions...and it's just my opinion that as long as I get more kills than someone, through whatever method, they're not as good as me and have no argument. If you argue that I was camping, I argue that you were an idiot and you rushed me in a game where rushing clearly does not prove to be beneficial to better one's score.

Cry more peepz....it's MW2. Use what the game gives you and get kills however you choose. There is no rule book as to how you should and should not play, so don't expect me to stop playing defensively and getting good K/Ds. I will not do that just to live up to your idea of a "skillful" player, sorry. I can get a good K/D rushing or not, but one method is not more skillful than the other, it's all the same thing in the end. I do what gets me kills and wins me games, that's all I gotta say.

 

[smash brawl player 99021]

Hahahaha you guys are actually wasting your time writing half a page on what's right or not.

Do this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2Y1ePAAQIU

 

[F8AL]

Hahahaha you guys are actually wasting your time writing half a page on what's right or not.

Do this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2Y1ePAAQIU

They're not wasting their time. Banjo is actually explaining how he sees the issue of what is considered camping or not.

 

[RuNNing Riot]

Hahahaha you guys are actually wasting your time writing half a page on what's right or not.

He is, I'm not.

I do complain about it, but if I complain about it, it's because someone is doing exactly what I said is camping.

I clearly said that covering an area is not camping in any way shape or form, which it isn't

It's not camping, it's defensive, smart gameplay, and flame me as much as you want for that because it's the truth.

Behold, BanjoKazooiePro, the Chuck Norris of gaming. He decides everything.

Keep in mind these are all opinions...and it's just my opinion that as long as I get more kills than someone, through whatever method, they're not as good as me and have no argument.

So therefore, if you don't think people who rush into you and get killed can complain, you, if you rush into a door camper and get killed, cannot complain either. And if/before you say that 'there's a difference' or 'ah, but that actually IS camping':

Use what the game gives you and get kills however you choose. There is no rule book as to how you should and should not play, so don't expect me to stop playing defensively and getting good K/Ds. I will not do that just to live up to your idea of a "skillful" player, sorry. I can get a good K/D rushing or not, but one method is not more skillful than the other, it's all the same thing in the end.

tl;dr: Stop being a hypocrit.

 

[xLeafybug =D]

Sorry, I can't hear any of you from way down there at the bottom of the leaderboard lolollol

 

[Wretched]

Oh, I didn't know not being a tryhard made you bad at this game.