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Is Ninja worth it in non-SD gametypes?
Typically, I'd say no, just because it would be totally wrong to assume that every single person on the enemy team had a good headset. However, even people without headsets can hear footsteps if their television is turned up loud or something. If you go on a map like underpass by the C flag, which is in the building with the boxes if you don't play much domination, you can hear basically anyone walking on the metal floor above. I use ninja personally just because I hate hearing my own footsteps, and I don't like the idea of people killing me just because they hear me walking. I guess I'm not one to talk though seeing as if I play search, about half of my kills each game are from sound whoring with my turtle beaches. If you don't use ninja pro around me, you better crouch walk or hard aim around every corner. But I would say unless you don't like hearing your own footsteps, then just use something else. Third tier perks suck in this game.
 

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I played CoD:WaW after like 5 months of not playing it. God, it's so obvious which guns are best, it's ridonkulous.


Anyways, anyone wanna play tomorrow?
 

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Commando is gay but great, Ninja is not the only really good third tier perk.
There you go. Though I do rather use Ninja. I think I got Ninja Pro on about 1/2 of my classes. I only have commando on 1 of my classes. And that's my "piss people off" class. Also, what do you guys think is the best smg's akimbo?

EDIT: Sure, Serin. I'll see what I can do.
 
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There you go. Though I do rather use Ninja. I think I got Ninja Pro on about 1/2 of my classes. I only have commando on 1 of my classes. And that's my "piss people off" class. Also, what do you guys think is the best smg's akimbo?

EDIT: Sure, Serin. I'll see what I can do.
MP5's or Vectors. I've gotten a Longshot with Akimbo Vectors before. ;___;
 

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So I blocked these 2 guys from getting in the rock on Fuel and got so muchhhh hate for it. Hilarious.
 

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Activision needs to patch that **** thing already.

I swear to god, nearly everybody on CoD multiplayer is totally deaf. I'm on Overgrown, in SnD,spectating the last guy on our team. He walks into the long building in the centre of the map to inspect the bomb. Some rather loud footsteps sound outside behind him. He doesn't notice. Then some footsteps sound on wooden floorboards, also behind him. He doesn't notice. Then there's the sound of a knife swishing and he still doesn't notice. So the enemy takes the time to teabag him a couple of times before blasting him in the back of the head with an AA-12.

Do you know what he had the cheek to say in the lobby after that? "How the **** did you get behind me?!"

I felt like... grrrr...
 

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Depending on whether or not hes deaf you still have to consider tv volume and his volume controls ingame. He could have sound FX on med like some fresh bait softcore noob or he could be playing music to feel like some hardcore i got this wannabe... and above all else even campers are arrogant enough to not secure their own location.

Im just sayin'
 

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He's one of those people that play casually and don't even know footsteps make noise to begin with. Cut him some slack, you've had more embarrassing moments in your CoD career. I value those players because they're often on the other team.
 

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Yes but when they are on your team you have to basically teach them that if someone is camping a corner dont repeatedly run back to that same place thinking hes going to move on.... -.-

Even then it makes you want to /wrist..
 

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It tends to be the other way around. People will run the same route in Search and do one of two things. Get killed by you because you're the smarter player, or kill you in some bull**** lucky way.
 

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Nah, I get killed by this exact setup so much.

M16 or FAMAS w/ ACOG + HBSensor
AA-12 w/ Red Dot
Bling Pro
Hardline Pro
Commando Pro

Absolute stupid setup, but the guy can get a miracle hipfire while I'm tickling him or something with my 9 or so pathetically weak Uzi bullets. Either that, or I get knifed around a corner after getting a no scope hitmarker or something. I have rather poor luck in SnD.
 

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That is one terrible setup

I personally say using any ACOG is rather trash unless its like the FAL or something if you can aim center mass with the iron sights on an m16 or famas your doin it wrong..

the HBS is ok if your not expecting more than a few ninjas
but the rest is garbage.

Whats your uzi setup and where do you generally aim?
 

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Mini-Uzi w/ Silencer
SPAS-12 w/ Extended Mags
Semtex / Stuns x 2

Marathon
Stopping
Ninja

Getting sick of the UMP tryhards with Lightweight, so I avoid rushing now.
 

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Because it's the only good attachment for the SPAS. Sights are useless, the silencer takes away what the SPAS does best, the Grip doesn't affect it, and FMJ is broken.
 

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I beg to differ on grip. I could never take someone out with the Spas-12 at a distance with no grip it just kept giving more nicks than kills and with grip its usually kills atleast 1/3rd of a room away. But the other attachments are garbage mags are good if you like the extra ammo.

I stopped using shotties and taken up handguns personally. M9 akimbo is amazing and D-Eagle is so **** funny I make it my soul mission just to get it to tactical knife and akimbo :laugh:
 

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i thought they fixed fmj on shotties...

and also, ive actually been playing a lil with a silenced spas (its the backup for the famas noobtoob class), and it isnt that bad (if you get a hitmarker, you'll get a kill), but it definitely seems to have no range at all compared to the spas unsilenced

not to mention its the only silenced gun in the default classes :/
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkYABv0gYEA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOOlufdnNug

SPAS with a Grip doesn't affect the distance at which you can kill people.

I got Deagle on my Tac Knife before any other handgun, it's so fun to use.
Deagle tac or akimos basically looks like the best ****** ever gone on a rampage.



Both videos do not ADS. why no ADS???


i thought they fixed fmj on shotties...
Didnt they fix that a patch or two ago?
Never really had a problem with it anyways. Now what they need to fix is one man army and noobtube replenishment.. -.-
 

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ADS widens the spread when firing which means you lose range. When aiming down the sights, the pellets will fly.
 

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I thought ADS focuses the spread to be more condensed on a mass? Hipfire would logically cause loss of weapon control meaning less accuracy focused on mass-over-miss.
 

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It was the same way in CoD4. Commentators always told people to avoid aiming down the sights because it loses valuable range. This is only true for shotguns. Test it out yourself, I tried it just now with a W12000. I do it because headshots are difficult to get and an ADS to the chest tends to result in a headshot.
 

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Then a test I shall do!

however the outcome wont matter since i dont use shotties anymore -.-

moving on..-transition-..whats the new topic for today?
 

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So Scrambler is actually good if you have a 4+ squad of people rushing with it.

Speaking of Scrambler, it's about 9 am, I'm gonna get some breakfast.
 

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Indeed it does i end up playing in the dark throughout estate and any building involved levels fighting static more than players. But it gives your position away too fast if your playing against keen eye people who notice UAV loss in non hardcore matches. scramblers the one of the few reasons i changed from Claymore to C4.
 

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C4 is only good in objective gametypes, Claymores can cover your back no matter what.

I've noticed people don't use their radar in HC.
 

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C4 is far better than a claymore because it can be treated as a grenade for room breaching without the grenades delay timers and a claymore for like you said objective and baiting.

Idk if you guys have discussed this but does anyone notice frag grenades seem to like you too much x.x -follows you around-
 

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There you go. Though I do rather use Ninja. I think I got Ninja Pro on about 1/2 of my classes. I only have commando on 1 of my classes. And that's my "piss people off" class. Also, what do you guys think is the best smg's akimbo?

EDIT: Sure, Serin. I'll see what I can do.
Akimbo MP5ks, kill in one shot with SP at close range, and are all-around ****.

I beg to differ on grip. I could never take someone out with the Spas-12 at a distance with no grip it just kept giving more nicks than kills and with grip its usually kills atleast 1/3rd of a room away. But the other attachments are garbage mags are good if you like the extra ammo.
Grip is a completely useless attachment on the SPAS because of the pump action. Ext. mags is the only good attachment for it.
 

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Akimbo MP5ks, kill in one shot with SP at close range, and are all-around ****.



Grip is a completely useless attachment on the SPAS because of the pump action. Ext. mags is the only good attachment for it.
As an opinion Ill consider it. but its not like im going to go through the effort to actually start using shotties again.

As for MP5Ks its ok for akimbo but akimbo it with silencers or just to show off ACOG
doubt you can even add that attachment to akimbo.

Personally i feel the MP5K has too much kickback in a run and gun situation and would have to say the vector is a better choice.
 
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So Scrambler is actually good if you have a 4+ squad of people rushing with it.

Speaking of Scrambler, it's about 9 am, I'm gonna get some breakfast.
I see what you did there :p
C4 is only good in objective gametypes, Claymores can cover your back no matter what.

I've noticed people don't use their radar in HC.
I use my radar quite often in HC. If people start shooting, I press start and find out where they're hiding.
C4 is far better than a claymore because it can be treated as a grenade for room breaching without the grenades delay timers and a claymore for like you said objective and baiting.

Idk if you guys have discussed this but does anyone notice frag grenades seem to like you too much x.x -follows you around-
I agree with what you said about C4. Only time I got an aggressive Claymore kill is when I go for suicide drops. And yes, I've seen some ****ing crazy GRENADA'S. Bouncin' off walls, rolling on that Moose head on Estate...
 

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As an opinion Ill consider it. but its not like im going to go through the effort to actually start using shotties again.


It's not really an opinion as so much of a fact. Since it is pump action, the SPAS is centered by the end of shooting animation anyways, and all the grip does is reduce the visual "kick" after the shot.
 

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It's not really an opinion as so much of a fact. Since it is pump action, the SPAS is centered by the end of shooting animation anyways, and all the grip does is reduce the visual "kick" after the shot.
then i will take it into consideration.


Tests conducted SPAS-11 ADS W/O & W/grip Doing a trial of 5 sets emptying one full clip each into the wall from the distance portrayed in the videos provided in rapid succession.

W/O grip ADS Rapid-Fire spray was concentrated shoulder-width from left to right just above center mass. with a 11 pellet grazing on arms and legs. 4 pellets miss any vital or damaging aspect.

W/grip ADS Rapid-Fire spray was concentrated left and upper left of center mass With a second grouping of 6 pellets right of center mass. 3 pellets grazing left and right arm 2 grazing each leg. 5 pellets miss any vital or damaging aspect.

Proceed to fire at door next to wall making what looked like a person holding an upset stomach :D


Conclusion: There is no defined point that the grip improves nor hinders the spread of the SPAS-11. Further possible tests will be executed in the future.


lol arch, those frags definitely have some sorta rudimentary homing device built into them...especially those ****ing martyrdom nades
I NO RITE?!!? everytime I hear a clink of a frag I run like hell to the opposite side of the room or out of it watch the ground to see if its looking for meh!
 
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