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tbh ally is just an exceptional player, i mean he made vbrawl falcon decent!! im not sure tbh, snake is real combo bait if he looses control of the match. maybe making his uptilt a bit less disjointed would be ok, but not much else (oh maybe reduce damage of nades)
) but it might just be a good idea to have Dthrow send them just outside his grab range, though tumble everyone like the current Dthrow does.
Wow. Just wow. If you don't know what your talking about (ie side steps) and if you haven't read (everything else) then........
Not removing, FIXING!
Have YOU been reading everything? Yes, the physical mechanic and animations should be removed, but its not making it like melee. Its improving upon the new ideas brawl has. I even said that there are neat ideas Brawl has that just needs some tweaking to be better.
That is exactly what my suggestion is except with the addition of moonesq gravity otherwise it would be flat out removing the uniqueness of having water in the first place and be exactly like melee.
It doesn't have to be and I hightly doubt it could ever be with Brawl's core engine. It [game mechanics] just has to be better than what it is and it needs to feel natural as well. (aka, adding wavedashing won't make the game better nor will it feel natural either)
Yea, lets just focus all our efforts on making the characters so perfect instead of fixing the rest of the game mechanics that are being overlooked. Good Idea!!
Wiggling says hi.
Unless you make other adjustments such as lowering hitstun and then fixing any important combos that got broke by using Magus' IASA idea. But that's only if people felt like doing a little work in order to improve the game in this way.
Or it could just improve zoning of the game without overvamping the characters. Seriously, all the work put into making the characters "better" could have been cut drastically if the proper game mechanics were put in place. Instead, the WBR seems content in spending more time and effort by fixing a game mechanic issue through character changes instead of through actual game mechanic changes.
Well, half the game is getting an opponent off the stage, the other half is keeping them off. The choices you make trying to get back or being over zealous should affect how you recover and this is an aspect that makes smash really exciting. Water mechanic as it is now at its simplest form is an extension of the stage. Those stages are walkoff stages (except japes for obvious reasons) They have all the qualities that makes up walk offs by being able to land on something near the blast zones and renewing all of your recovery options that were lost due to the past choices you made. (ie, you could have lost your second jump in an attempt to get back but you can get it back anyway) A lot of risk of going off stage is also minimized as well. Swimming, I feel, is much like gliding and footstools. The mechanic is bad design goes against the nature of smash.
No. Wrong. Game mechanics first, character changes second. That is the most efficient way to do things because when the proper mechanics are in play, that one change you were thinking about implementing may end up not being needed after all.
Yea, cause I'm a coder. I did the work in how extensively I picked apart the game to find ways to improve it. I did the work and time into explaining my reasons and tried to put an emphasis and an importance on game mechanics before but got the "IDC" response in reply. I attempted to do the things I am saying by making my own set but look how that turned out. Its been 4+ months later and you still haven't gotten the message. If I were a coder, I would have made all those codes by now.
I said Brawl's core engine, not the Wii's you idiot.
What if water always made you drown? Or is that even worse? (It would essentially make the blastlines really small on those stages)
After messing around in PSA for about 2 minutes I already figured out how to change auto jabs.
I agree.
I think that would be worse because that is basically the equivalent of trying to recover on a stage like Final destination except you are limited in where you can recover from. Also, things like spikes would be way too powerful because in situations where you would be able to meteor cancel (or if you were meteored weakly at 0%) and recovered, you would die. What BBrawl did was better I believe where it put you in the "I'm about to drown" state always and the % your at determined how much time you have before drowning. This keeps an emphasis on needing to recover hastily instead of being able to water camp. But I think my idea would be more interesting and exciting. Or maybe you can do both. If Delfino is deemed to be not that bad, Delfino should have BBrawl's water idea and Japes and Pirate should have mine. The only problem with that is consistency where this water is good but this is bad. A possible solution would be to texture the water differently to be like clouds (and the pirate ship be the one from Mario Bros 3) or oil. Lol.
Awesome. The WBR did agree with me on removing this mechanic (hence why it was in a set or two before it was removed for not working properly) and now that its fixable, it should be readded.
Pika will be exempt, right? Please say it's true.
I agree, for the most part. The auto-jab should be character specific, so that characters like Pikachu (and others that I am forgetting) can keep their decent jab. After all, it is very hard and tedious to press the A button every 2/3 frames (or however long Pika's jab is).
Yea, moongravity was just to get your imaginations going so you can see what I mean. Moon gravity is probably too floaty. The float level would have to be tested to where it makes the water nice and balanced.
NADT wouldn't make the game floatier. Why would floatier be an option? Something that wasn't mentioned is that NADT wouldn't only kick after hitstun. It also works if you are caught shield camping by the ledge/platform when you are pushed off. Just wanted to point that out.
If that's what you guys want. However, doing that will still keep his jab not as precise and a little hard to control. IMO its much better to be able to manually press the A for a second or two until a trip occurs. You also won't accidentally do one more than you wanted to do. I feel its still possible to achieve the same effect with better control but that's just me.Pika will be exempt, right? Please say it's true.
Or do neither. Most of this stuff (with the possible exception of the water thing) should be possible with PSA.
Uh... do you not consider brawl a step backwards from melee? That's one of the stupidest things you could ask someone when talking about brawl+. To get down to what you actually meant, though... Brawl uses a commercial physics engine. Melee did not. He's saying that simply the way the engine works, you can't replicate the feel of melee, and this is true.
And yet half the stuff he suggests has nothing to do with increasing the "clackity-ness" of games, but will improve the gameplay.
Are you honestly telling me that Vbrawl is as good or better than melee? Are you honestly telling me that Brawl was made competitive and not stupid so for general public? Which game are we hacking again, anyway? If you don't know of any reasons why brawl took a step back despite being apart of this project, then I don't know what to say.
Of course it is a matter of opinion
