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Brawl model extractor

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_Vuze_

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It is 2:25pm over here ;D
But I doubt Pharrox will find time then this week.
Anyway, still hoping ^-^
 

Super-Sonic

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Thats not hard to do, its just putting the pikachu slot there, not a new one. Just a dupe of the original, thats how those all mario CSP's came to exist.
But, i mean, i've seen a friend of me doing it. Just putting a pikachu with only a color and diferent moves from the original. It's just, i don't know. He doesn't want to tell me how to. So if anyone of you know how to, i will be really thankfull.
 

cookieM0Nster

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Okay, I looked into ef_common.pac, and I found about 35 or 36 indexes, all of which contained model data. Is this where model data is stored?
 

Super-Sonic

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Okay, I looked into ef_common.pac, and I found about 35 or 36 indexes, all of which contained model data. Is this where model data is stored?
most efects are 3d models. So, i think all you've seen are only efects, not character's 3d models
 

Kefrius

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You know what I have been thinking about lately.
Many modelers are starting on their models, and some even finishing it, so I was thinking that when Pharrox's injector is released, the first 2 days would be a total model blast on all sites XD

Like many people posting their models and such. That would be awesome XD
Well, they still have to rig them
 

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You know.....many of the model's people have been working on are kind of unnecessary as Brawl trophies etc. has most of them.
 

Kefrius

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You know.....many of the model's people have been working on are kind of unnecessary as Brawl trophies etc. has most of them.
Ohh you re right. Thanks for make me remember that. I remeber Pharrox posting something about that. So it would be relatively easy to use any of the trophies in Brawl and convert them to a playable model? But would modelers still need to rig them?
 

pokelover980

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Ohh you re right. Thanks for make me remember that. I remeber Pharrox posting something about that. So it would be relatively easy to use any of the trophies in Brawl and convert them to a playable model? But would modelers still need to rig them?
Modelers still have to T-Pose them even. T-Posing Mewtwo's trophy is a pain, I can assure you of that :U
 

pokelover980

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I did it fairly quickly, if you want mine i can give it to you (some stuff was remodeled).
Really? It was a pain the first time I did it mainly because of the leg. Everything else was fine except the leg attached to his bum. I think my problem was I only vertex edited when I did it, not polygon. Ima give it another try tonight and see if I get it working.
 

Kefrius

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Really? It was a pain the first time I did it mainly because of the leg. Everything else was fine except the leg attached to his bum. I think my problem was I only vertex edited when I did it, not polygon. Ima give it another try tonight and see if I get it working.
Can you post your progress here, long time I dont see any progress on models. ;(
 

Kefrius

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M'kay, I can do that. I'll have some progress up either tonight or when I get home from school tomorrow.
Nice. It has been a while I haven't seen any Mewtwo models around. Remember seeing 2 different ones on Darkdragoon's mewtwo thread, but no news of them lately. Nice that you are working on one pokelover, Mewtwo is the first model I am going to use in Brawl+.
 

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I haven't kept up with this thread at all. Is Pharox close to a model injector? Has he found a way to do this?

What's the news of all this model and animation stuff?
 

E-Jolteon

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It's not coming out, it'll get canceled, or he won't be able to figure something out and it'll get canned.

If I try to be pessimistic, it'll make the wait more worth it.
 

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I realistically feel that we'll need yet another new File Replacement code with an adaptation that will allow injected models to actually function, as I don't see something of this magnitude realistically be implemented with the codes at hand. I still think that we should expect a model importer a Christmas present at absolute best, if it ever happens at all.
 

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I realistically feel that we'll need yet another new File Replacement code with an adaptation that will allow injected models to actually function, as I don't see something of this magnitude realistically be implemented with the codes at hand. I still think that we should expect a model importer a Christmas present at absolute best, if it ever happens at all.
I think the current File Patcher will work fine. Considering that BrawlBox model swapping works with it, custom models should work fine, too, considering that they're the same format.
 

cuckoos

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I realistically feel that we'll need yet another new File Replacement code with an adaptation that will allow injected models to actually function, as I don't see something of this magnitude realistically be implemented with the codes at hand. I still think that we should expect a model importer a Christmas present at absolute best, if it ever happens at all.
No. File replacement codes decide what files to replace in which folder, basically, you can replace anything it allows. Alt. models are basically just textures, so any file replacement code will work fine, no need for a new one.
 

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I realistically feel that we'll need yet another new File Replacement code with an adaptation that will allow injected models to actually function, as I don't see something of this magnitude realistically be implemented with the codes at hand. I still think that we should expect a model importer a Christmas present at absolute best, if it ever happens at all.
Are you stupid or something?
"this magnitude", its the same thing as texture hacking, the exact same.
 

cuckoos

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It's not coming out, it'll get canceled, or he won't be able to figure something out and it'll get canned.

If I try to be pessimistic, it'll make the wait more worth it.
^This

Well, Pharrox could at least post. Or just abandon the project, and we'll all bash him with our plastic spoons.

If this hype is going to be knocked down, then whatever, let this topic sage. C'mon Pharrox. Just post.
 

E-Jolteon

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Everyone, you're getting something for free from a guy you don't know. Don't complain.
So, you're saying there's absolutely nothing wrong with just promising a kid a new toy, and then going off to the store, and then never calling or coming back to fullfill the promise? Forget a release, Pharrox hasn't even posted any type of proof - It's also interesting to think about what it means when I said "I'll post proof".. It means he got something working. However that entire week has past and he gave us nothing but a kick in the face.

I'm willing to drop it even he shows at least some proof; right now, even just tossing in a box and showing it would be sufficient, since at least that means SOMETHING works.
 

brawlshifter

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So, you're saying there's absolutely nothing wrong with just promising a kid a new toy, and then going off to the store, and then never calling or coming back to fullfill the promise? Forget a release, Pharrox hasn't even posted any type of proof - It's also interesting to think about what it means when I said "I'll post proof".. It means he got something working. However that entire week has past and he gave us nothing but a kick in the face.

I'm willing to drop it even he shows at least some proof; right now, even just tossing in a box and showing it would be sufficient, since at least that means SOMETHING works.
Think about it, hundreds of things could have happened. His computer could have crashed, he could have gone on a trip somewhere, he might have encountered an error, maybe he doesn't have enough done, maybe he doesn't have time at the moment, maybe he's pissed off at people constantly complaining, or maybe he's almost done and wants to release it when it's finished. But all of that is besides the point, Oshtoby is right, he's getting nothing out of this, yet he is still doing it. If you want it done faster, do it yourself, it's not as easy as you think!
 

sffadsad

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So, you're saying there's absolutely nothing wrong with just promising a kid a new toy, and then going off to the store, and then never calling or coming back to fullfill the promise? Forget a release, Pharrox hasn't even posted any type of proof - It's also interesting to think about what it means when I said "I'll post proof".. It means he got something working. However that entire week has past and he gave us nothing but a kick in the face.

I'm willing to drop it even he shows at least some proof; right now, even just tossing in a box and showing it would be sufficient, since at least that means SOMETHING works.
There's nothing wrong with promising a kid a new toy and then not giving it to them. Especially if the kid is impatient and whiny.

Pharrox has already shown that he is able to create programs that affect Brawl models. (Hint, he posted up a few betas of his model extractor.) Now all you have to do is go do something else and wait for him to finish.
 

Oni K4ge

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^^ yatht. Wow, you guys, calm down, okay? Some of you are even accusing him of just leaving us hanging (not quoted, but look back through this page)? Just wait. WAIT. Though I do agree it was wrong of him (or her? :S no offense just thought I'd be polite) to not post anything AT ALL, not even a reply to any questions, or, hell, even show up. But things come up. As mentioned above, maybe his/her computer crashed and s/he needs to re-install the internet... or all progress may have been lost X_X So just try to focus on something else for a bit. Try making a PSA to tide you over. Do something useful, like make a full list of all the SFX in Brawl. THAT would be a very good thing to do.
 

bleyva

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There's nothing wrong with promising a kid a new toy and then not giving it to them.
well, i do think theres something inherently wrong with promising something and not keeping your word, but thats a very far cry from what Pharrox is doing. its not like a model importer is something you can promise and then go out and by at a Toys R Us. **** happens.

Though I do agree it was wrong of him (or her? :S no offense just thought I'd be polite) to not post anything AT ALL
implying theres girls in the smash workshop :laugh::laugh::laugh:
 

Oni K4ge

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well, i do think theres something inherently wrong with promising something and not keeping your word, but thats a very far cry from what Pharrox is doing. its not like a model importer is something you can promise and then go out and by at a Toys R Us. **** happens.



implying theres girls in the smash workshop :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Its possible, right?

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RIGHT..? -_-; oh.

probably


Probably


PROBABLY
Precisely.
 

Doval

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So, you're saying there's absolutely nothing wrong with just promising a kid a new toy, and then going off to the store, and then never calling or coming back to fullfill the promise?
Except making a program takes a ****load more time and effort than going to a store and coming back with a toy.

Also if I were in Pharrox's shoes I wouldn't want to have to be posting in Smashboards constantly just to keep people from saying "ZOMG PHARROX IS QUITTING." Patience is a virtue. If he hasn't posted he's surely been busy with real life distractions that have higher priority than making a program he's not being paid for.
 

brawlshifter

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If you look at this, you're a stalker: NorCal
implying theres girls in the smash workshop :laugh::laugh::laugh:
What's that supposed to mean. Now, I'm NOT a girl, but there are many girls that hack, (i.e. TheEnigmaLiesBroken on GSCentral,etc.) some that do a pretty **** good job too.

Also, the injector will come out when Pharrox finishes it. Creating something like this is very difficult, try it yourself, you'll see.

(Heh, just realized this site had an automatic censor, the beforementioned word is dam, for those of you who can't figure it out)
 

E-Jolteon

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probably


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Completely forgot.. And that actually changes quite a bit. If he didn't say he WOULD, but he MIGHT, then that means he didn't really break his word.

Pharrox has already shown that he is able to create programs that affect Brawl models. (Hint, he posted up a few betas of his model extractor.)
Technically, that doesn't affect the model, it just uses it. What he's aiming for now IS actually affecting the files.
 
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