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Brawl Graveyard: Where lost hopes rest

Red_Maniac

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But they aren't CONFIRMED to be deconfirmed.

If Miis are in Critical Condition, then Dr. Steward and... that... thing should also be in critical condition.
 

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People that say that Ike and stuff aren't going to be PC are just using the most idiotic logic...

...The point is not that they are trophies, but because the way the character was first recognized...

ALL characters (that appeared in something before the official update) that turned out to be PC's have first appeared in some kind of movie clip of some importance.

You really think Tingle is going to be a PC after first appearing in a Trophies update...?

Hell no...

You don't see the trophies of any characters that have a chance of being PC's now do you? Because he's holding all characters until he officially revealed them in some way...

..You know **** well that. Your just trying to twist words to your advantage...horribly, I might add.


and porygon2 has a chance? even if porygon2 had one, tingle had a way better chance.



sorry don't wanna be a jerk but your porygon2 ssbb thing has been bugging me for awhile. i just had to get that off my chest.
That is not Porygon 2 BTW if you can't read...and no, it's a joke...**** people
 

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Wow, why are people such morons? Even playable characters are made trophies. This deconfirms absolutely nothing. I guess we can't play as Donkey Kong, Ike, PokemonTrainer, Samus, Peach, Pit, Fox, Link or Pikachu with this logic. -_-;;;
 

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Wow, why are people such morons? Even playable characters are made trophies. This deconfirms absolutely nothing. I guess we can't play as Donkey Kong, Ike, PokemonTrainer, Samus, Peach, Pit, Fox, Link or Pikachu with this logic. -_-;;;
No...you can't...you obviously lack logic too...read my post
 

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But they aren't CONFIRMED to be deconfirmed.
Thing is, there'll never be a confirmation to deconfirmation if there not ATs or Pokeballs. Keep in mind, they can pop up here and there in the game, but they may not be playable. I mean, if they were to be playable, why show them just like that? No fighting pictures or their own update, but just decorations or items. That's what leads me to believe that they are deconfirmed.
 

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Notice how all the characters are on golden platforms, and the average trophies are not.

Golden most likely means they are things in the game, while average trophies are just gathered from games.


EDIT: OT, Alot of foods there. Can anyone get a bigger picture of them?
 

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Wow, why are people such morons? Even playable characters are made trophies. This deconfirms absolutely nothing. I guess we can't play as Donkey Kong, Ike, PokemonTrainer, Samus, Peach, Pit, Fox, Link or Pikachu with this logic. -_-;;;
....Playable characters always.. you know, what forget it.
 

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Notice how all the characters are on golden platforms, and the average trophies are not.

Golden most likely means they are things in the game, while average trophies are just gathered from games.


EDIT: OT, Alot of foods there. Can anyone get a bigger picture of them?
I'm pretty sure that's just the lighting.
 

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Wow, why are people such morons? Even playable characters are made trophies. This deconfirms absolutely nothing. I guess we can't play as Donkey Kong, Ike, PokemonTrainer, Samus, Peach, Pit, Fox, Link or Pikachu with this logic. -_-;;;
Wow, why are you so moronic? How about you read the **** thread? The reply right above yours addressed this issue.

It's just beautiful how some people don't actually care to read the opposition's arguments and just assume that it's something idiotic. God.
 

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This thread has no crediblity whatsoever, you add characters that are not even close to deconfirmed such as Tom Nook, Cubone, Mii, Tingle, Dr Steward and Slippy.
 

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No it isn't, how have their chances changed? They're trophys BIG ****ING WHOOP So are the playable characters.
Show me one instance where a newcomer has been shown in any way or even hinted to in the slightest before his very own update.
 

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Show me one instance where a newcomer has been shown in any way or even hinted to in the slightest before his very own update.
Peach in the movie, yoshi's stage before yoshi, etc.
(we can't ignore it's possible though again I state I never though tinkle or Slippy had a shot in the first place. so what does any of this matter)

In the end putting Slippy on here was only a play to keep this thread alive and inevitably means nothing.
 

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...Maybe, if it happens to a character that actually has a chance (Besides Nook, but you don't see me not excepting that he was practically deconfirmed)...Who knows (Though I doubt it other than in a movie of importance)

Besides, how can you hypocrites call the Nook Supporters stupid but still not acknowledge that Mii's and Tingle's chances have drastically lowered
 

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In how far are those two newcomers?
Does it matter?

Besides, how can you hypocrites call the Nook Supporters stupid but still not acknowledge that Mii's and Tingle's chances have drastically lowered
I don't see how this lowers Mii's chances. When I saw this I thought "Wow Mii are being implemented in the game so one step closer to PC." How does it deconfirm anything. People like to rush to conclusions when the fact is is Sakurai wanted to he could make Hammer bro an AT an still be a PC. Now I'll be the first to say I highly doubt such a matter will take place but Sakurai can do whatever he wants in this game whether it be a Nook wjo vanishes from the background into the fight or a PC of the developers themselves.

But some things are more illogical than others, a character being revealed as trophy before becoming a PC is more reasonable than Nook disapearing from the background to appear in a fight. Just as well a Mii is more reasonable as occuring than a PC/AT Hammer bro.

So No ones stupid in these matters, however some people are more unreasonable than others. And that sir is your answer.
 

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Just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it can't.
No kidding. I never claimed that it makes it impossible for them to be playable.
But that is all the evidence we have, it has never happened, thus chances are that it won't, how big these chances and the changes and whatever the hell else are, that's something you're free to discuss, but their chances have decreased to some degree and that is a fact.
As long as you can accept that, whatever. But taking an extreme position like "DECONFIRMED" or "NO CHANGE AT ALL" is dumb either way.


EDIT: Didn't notice the new page.
Of course it does matter. Anyone who didn't expect Yoshi, Peach or DK to return needs to get their common sense checked.
Newcomers are supposed to be surprises.
Now of course you can claim that seeing Tingle in that screenshot is a surprise, too, but that just doesn't seem like a likely introduction.
 

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Of course it matters
Why? Old characters have just as much shot of returning as some of the new ones. This is such a small matter and to hype it to death is all for naught.
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i never thought Tingle was going to make it and I still don't but I beleive this argument is whether the trophy update means anything for confirming characters.
 

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I still hold hope for Palutena. She's not quite dead yet to me. There is like a 0.5% chance still :p
 

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In how far are those two newcomers?
How about the Animal Crossing character? I don't think as many people here would be expecting an AC rep if it hadn't been for the stage, the music, the item...I know I certainly wouldn't.

EDIT: And I just want to point out that, again, this thread really has little credibility when you think of it from a game designer perspective. Anyone ever play...****, I forgot which DBZ game. Anyway, Videl's strongest special was basically a "Summon Gohan" move where he beat the crap out of the other character. By the logic you see on this thread, that means they couldn't POSSIBLY have put Gohan in as a playable character because having him beat himself up just doesn't make any sense! Oh noes!

It's a game. It's not meant to make total sense, it's meant to be FUN.
 

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How about the Animal Crossing character? I don't think as many people here would be expecting an AC rep if it hadn't been for the stage, the music, the item...I know I certainly wouldn't.

EDIT: And I just want to point out that, again, this thread really has little credibility when you think of it from a game designer perspective. Anyone ever play...****, I forgot which DBZ game. Anyway, Videl's strongest special was basically a "Summon Gohan" move where he beat the crap out of the other character. By the logic you see on this thread, that means they couldn't POSSIBLY have put Gohan in as a playable character because having him beat himself up just doesn't make any sense! Oh noes!

It's a game. It's not meant to make total sense, it's meant to be FUN.
...I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're getting at in the first paragraph. I'm a little slow lately.

And, yes, many of these "deconfirmations" are quite wonky. Lip's Stick says practically nothing about her inclusion, Tom Nook could still make it due to some odd factors aaaand so on. *shrugs*
 

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Yeah, there are to many jumped conclusions here. Nooks is probably a critical, as severley lowered his chances, but there are still ways he could be put in. Lip's doesn't really effect her one way or another due to things like the screw attack. The trophies also have never really been a good way to deconfirm characters since everyone will eventually get a trophy. =/
 

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...I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're getting at in the first paragraph. I'm a little slow lately.

And, yes, many of these "deconfirmations" are quite wonky. Lip's Stick says practically nothing about her inclusion, Tom Nook could still make it due to some odd factors aaaand so on. *shrugs*
It was in response to the "leaked" information about the returning characters, and you asked what NEW characters have been leaked in such a way. What with the abundance of Animal Crossing paraphernalia in the game so far, it's logical to conclude there's going to be a character. If they hadn't made updates about Animal Crossing stuff, not as many people would think there was going to be a character from them.
 

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Yes i just wanted to say that roy-r aka columbian falcon is the best smasher in the world no joke lol he is awesome in the awesome way but he like does not make him self non i will do that.
 

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...My sentiments exactly :mad:

*bows head for his favourite hyperactive mole*

*sigh* I demand a monument >.< he was one of the front-runners for AC and was one of my highest hopefuls... :( Now I know how the Deoxys and Goroh fans felt >.>
 

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And another one dies, and another one dies, and another one bites the dust!
Brutal deconfirmations left and right.
I just hope Friday bring an actual confirmation.
 
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