Brawl Graveyard: Where lost hopes rest

[Sinn]

<rant>This is honestly, a stupid thread. A lot of your "reasons" make no sense.

HEY GGHUYZ, TOM NOOK ISNT PLAYABLE CUZ HES IN DA BAKRGOWND OF DA STAGE!!!!1!

Captain Falcon was in his vehicle in Big Blue in Melee, as well as Fox and Falco in Corneria. OMG, WAS IT HAX THAT WE WERE ABLE TO USE CAPT, FOX AND FALCO????? OMFGGFGFGGGG.</rant>

If there is Tom Nook, and you use him, he won't appear in the background of the stage. OMFG IMPOSSIBLE

Dude, not only that, but I just remembered that secret taunt that Fox and Falco have. OMG they're talking to themselves! HOW ARE THEY TALKING IN THE PLANE WHEN THEY ARE ON THE GROUND?

 

[zigzaghakr]

This has to be the scariest thing since sliced bread... hang on i can do better(1/2 hour later) it has to be the scariest thing since ice climbers there thats better

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I don't think that Mii's are deconfirmed...when was that said? Mii FTW.

Mii's suck worse than any character idea I've heard

 

[zigzaghakr]

wat bout cleffa, pichu, ice climbers, ness so on so forth

 

[Darkurai]

wat bout cleffa, pichu, ice climbers, ness so on so forth

What makes the Ice Climbers suck so much?
I think they're awesome.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

wat bout cleffa, pichu, ice climbers, ness so on so forth

Are you saying those are bad ideas...Hell, any of them are 10x better than wii....

Including Ness in that proves you don't know what your talking about

 

[Vertiboy]

I don't see how Petey, Miis, Tingle, Dr. Steward, or Slippy are deconfirmed. For Petey, we just know that she is a boss. We don't know if she is unlockable or not. She is definitely not deconfirmed.

For Miis, playable characters in Brawl can also be used as an icon, like Mario or Link. Just because Miis can be used as icons, it doesn't mean they are deconfirmed.

For the latter three, does it really matter if they are collectible trophy? Playable characters have collectable trophies. Those three are not deconfirmed.

 

[zigzaghakr]

Are you saying those are bad ideas...Hell, any of them are 10x better than wii....

yes i am however i didn't see anythin bout the wii

What makes the Ice Climbers suck so much?
I think they're awesome.

They cheat cause theres 2 they r strange confusin and so weird there i said it happy now

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I don't see how Petey, Miis, Tingle, Dr. Steward, or Slippy are deconfirmed. For Petey, we just know that she is a boss. We don't know if she is unlockable or not. She is definitely not deconfirmed.

For Miis, playable characters in Brawl can also be used as an icon, like Mario or Link. Just because Miis can be used as icons, it doesn't mean they are deconfirmed.

For the latter three, does it really matter if they are collectible trophy? Playable characters have collectable trophies. Those three are not deconfirmed.

Yes it does...

They never had a chance anyway...

****, I'm not going to repeat the same things over and over...look for why they are basically deconfirmed

 

[Darkurai]

They cheat cause theres 2 they r strange confusin and so weird there i said it happy now

That's the biggest bunch of bull**** I've heard since that Customizable Characters thread.

 

[PIMPSLAP]

lol doctor mario should be deconfirmed.

 

[SonicMario]

I don't see how Petey, Miis, Tingle, Dr. Steward, or Slippy are deconfirmed. For Petey, we just know that she is a boss. We don't know if she is unlockable or not. She is definitely not deconfirmed.

Is it just me. Or did nobody tell me about Petey's sex-change surgery? (In other words, Petey's a GUY)

I am paying my respects for those who wanted Mr. Resetti in. I too had a little support for him. He seemed to be the only cool AC character. Now i have no idea who will be or if there will be... an AC character.

 

[Conker1]

I really like how you aren't pulling any punches Chidosengan. Keep up the good work.

 

[Red_Maniac]

Resettiiiiiiii!!!!!!

Nooo!!!!

 

[2007]

Resetti was the besst Assist trophy ever. not because I didn't want him as a character, but because of what he does.

 

[axemangx]

Man, AC fans has really got hit pretty hard.

 

[C.Olimar788]

Erm... so why does being a trophy mean that Tingle and sch won't be playable? That's just silly. I can even understand Nook, but saying that a character appearing as a trophy means they aren't playable is just plain irrational. The trophies of Tingle, Slippy, etc. could be their first trophy types, like in Melee, you know.

 

[Mike2000]

Erm... so why does being a trophy mean that Tingle and sch won't be playable? That's just silly. I can even understand Nook, but saying that a character appearing as a trophy means they aren't playable is just plain irrational. The trophies of Tingle, Slippy, etc. could be their first trophy types, like in Melee, you know.

While being a trophy or an Assist Trophy doesn't completely rule out a possible character for Brawl, it can lower their chances, A LOT. It depends what Sakurai decides to do with the characters in the first place. While Tingle and Slippy are trophies, they can still be characters but their chances have been drastically lowered now.

 

[ParamoreRiot]

While being a trophy or an Assist Trophy doesn't completely rule out a possible character for Brawl, it can lower their chances, A LOT. It depends what Sakurai decides to do with the characters in the first place. While Tingle and Slippy are trophies, they can still be characters but their chances have been drastically lowered now.

An Assist Trophy COMPLETELY rules out the chance of that character being playable.

But i am saddened that the only good AC character left, is no more.

 

[skullkidd]

Now I know how people feel about their favorite character's being deconfirmed.
I had to part with my playable Resetti fantasies today.

 

[Sinn]

An Assist Trophy COMPLETELY rules out the chance of that character being playable.

But i am saddened that the only good AC character left, is no more.

Thanks for bringing this up.

Yes, an Assist Trophy is the ONLY way so far to COMPLETELY rule out a character (along with Pokéballs, being the Pokémon version of Assist Trophies). I personally think that boss characters will probably not be unlockable to play as either based on a couple things I see with Petey:

1) The way he attacks - It's been stated that he's going to attack with cages holding other characters, and that to beat him you have to attack the cages. This isn't even standard Smash fighting (more like fighting Master Hand), and I don't know how that would translate into gameplay. If they have an entirely DIFFERENT moveset for him without the cages...well, we've yet to see that.

2) Size - Petey is, by far, the largest character shown as of yet. I think he's even bigger than Giga Bowser...sure, they can scale him down, but...then why ever make him that big in the first place?

3) The way they updated him - He's got a very unique looking update post. Instead of having a blue gradient background, he has a pink one. I suppose all the bosses they reveal will have this same background format. If he were going to be a playable character that you happen to have to fight in the game, then it would have made more sense to update him with a normal PC character post first.

Now, none of these things are PROOF that bosses aren't going to be playable since Sakurai never said so on the site. But I think it's reasonable to assume as much at this point in time.

The vast majority of other reasons characters have been "deconfirmed" on this thread boils down to nothing but speculation, which isn't really a deconfirmation of anything at all. If it's going to be done that way then fine, but there should really be a lot more "critical condition" entries like Lip's on that list than actual deconfirmations.

 

[Oasis_S]

Perhaps Kapp'n, from Animal Crossing, should be put in 'critical condition' due to his taxi cab being seen in the background?

 

[Chidosengan]

Thanks for bringing this up.

Yes, an Assist Trophy is the ONLY way so far to COMPLETELY rule out a character (along with Pokéballs, being the Pokémon version of Assist Trophies). I personally think that boss characters will probably not be unlockable to play as either based on a couple things I see with Petey:

1) The way he attacks - It's been stated that he's going to attack with cages holding other characters, and that to beat him you have to attack the cages. This isn't even standard Smash fighting (more like fighting Master Hand), and I don't know how that would translate into gameplay. If they have an entirely DIFFERENT moveset for him without the cages...well, we've yet to see that.

2) Size - Petey is, by far, the largest character shown as of yet. I think he's even bigger than Giga Bowser...sure, they can scale him down, but...then why ever make him that big in the first place?

3) The way they updated him - He's got a very unique looking update post. Instead of having a blue gradient background, he has a pink one. I suppose all the bosses they reveal will have this same background format. If he were going to be a playable character that you happen to have to fight in the game, then it would have made more sense to update him with a normal PC character post first.

Now, none of these things are PROOF that bosses aren't going to be playable since Sakurai never said so on the site. But I think it's reasonable to assume as much at this point in time.

The vast majority of other reasons characters have been "deconfirmed" on this thread boils down to nothing but speculation, which isn't really a deconfirmation of anything at all. If it's going to be done that way then fine, but there should really be a lot more "critical condition" entries like Lip's on that list than actual deconfirmations.

Problem with that is that he'll never going to say characters are decomfirmed. He'll never going to go in a update and point out to a character in a background and go "L0lz!! NoT PLYZ@LVe!!" .....Well except for ATs and Pokeballs.

Brawl will release in less then 3 months now. There is now such thing as "chances" anymore, but more like "did he/she/it made it or not." The game should be completed right now. I really doubt they're working on characters anymore, but more like fixing bugs or graphical glitches and errors.

I mean, if these were to be playable, then why show them just like that, as if there are of no importance? If there are to be playable, then this are the dumbest type of hints. What ever happened to the surprised factor? If they were to be secret characters, then why did he not wait till later? Better yet, why did he not give those character their own profile like he did with other playable characters and newcomers, with that "New Challenger Approaching!!" sign, but show them in random pictures as decorations or items? Ask yourself these and let them swirl in your brain for a while.

You know what, I provably going to have to copy and past this in every page from now on till December. I'm freaking tired of repeating myself.

 

[xianfeng]

Now either "deconfirm" Jigglypuff or remove Tom Nook, KK Slider, Cubone, Diglett, Mii, Tingle, Dr Steward and Slippy.

 

[IllidR]

Now either "deconfirm" Jigglypuff or remove Tom Nook, KK Slider, Cubone, Diglett, Mii, Tingle, Dr Steward and Slippy.

1. There's no way to tell if that's clearly Jigglypuff. It's really just a blurr and could be one of the ten other pokemon who are round balls.

2. Jigglypuff is a species not a single character.

 

[GreatClayMonkey]

Now either "deconfirm" Jigglypuff or remove Tom Nook, KK Slider, Cubone, Diglett, Mii, Tingle, Dr Steward and Slippy.

Those are backround sprites ment to take up space and theres more than one jigglypuff

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

There's no Jigglypuff or Pokemon at all, people are just imagining things.

 

[Homelessvagrant]

There's no Jigglypuff or Pokemon at all, people are just imagining things.

no that is jigglypuff, along with drowzee and voltorb amongst others.

But people are just getting dumb with deconfirming characters. AT's, PP and background characters I can understnad. But trophies, avatars and sprite deconfirmations is square rooting -4. yes you can do it but you get a imagionary answer. Those trophies probably aren't PC's but you can't be 100 percent sure their not. How do you know Sakurai's not playing games with us knowing we'll think these characters are deconfirmed. Do you know Sakurai, I don't. He seems way to unpredictable to me. Stick to deconfirming AT's because this is getting ridiculous

 

[xianfeng]

Backgrounds don't confirm or rather deconfirm ****, they are just backgrounds!

 

[IllidR]

Backgrounds don't confirm or rather deconfirm ****, they are just backgrounds!

Well the thing is we know it's possible for them to be in the background and a playable character, but why would Sakurai choose to put them in the background if they were going to be announced later as a playable character.

 

[BudDudandSlash]

Now either "deconfirm" Jigglypuff or remove Tom Nook, KK Slider, Cubone, Diglett, Mii, Tingle, Dr Steward and Slippy.

Those are all Foretress.

 

[Crayola]

Sorry, TC, but your bias towards Tingle is clear, and it seems that you were BURSTING to put Tingle as "dead" when he isn't. Your bias destroys your credibility, and the credibility of this thread.

Tingle was in no way deconfirmed. I take it that you didn't see the Melee updates, right?

 

[Brawlman]

As much as it pains me to say this....A trophy does NOT deconfirm a character.

 

[ness4life]

....Unfortunately, Brawlman is right.

PLEASE GOD, DON'T PUT TINGLE IN BRAWL!!!

 

[raphtmarqui]

As much as it pains me to say this....A trophy does NOT deconfirm a character.

It has nothing to do with them being a trophy, but the fact that they were first shown in a non-playable situation. If they were playable why, would they lead ppl to believe they werent?

 

[Caael]

Trophies dont mean crap. Peach is also a trophy, better de-confirm her.

 

[blayde_axel]

Like raphtmarqui said, Tingle was first shown in a NON-PLAYABLE situation... not Peach. Not the same. (Then again, Peach was shown in a non-playable situation... if you count CGs...)

But, anyway, yes, it doesn't confirm anything... but it does lower his chances.

 

[Sinn]

Sorry, TC, but your bias towards Tingle is clear, and it seems that you were BURSTING to put Tingle as "dead" when he isn't. Your bias destroys your credibility, and the credibility of this thread.

Tingle was in no way deconfirmed. I take it that you didn't see the Melee updates, right?

What Melee update do you speak of when you say this? Though I completely agree with your point.

 

[Chidosengan]

Sorry, TC, but your bias towards Tingle is clear, and it seems that you were BURSTING to put Tingle as "dead" when he isn't. Your bias destroys your credibility, and the credibility of this thread.

Tingle was in no way deconfirmed. I take it that you didn't see the Melee updates, right?

Look, I kinda like Tingle (you gotta admit, "Tingle, Tingle, Kolumpa!" in Majora's Mask was awesome, loved making that guy fall! ), but it seems that some many people here HATE Tingle. I did that whole "tragic death" thing for some humor, but I guess that really does makes me look bais. Might as well make it normal.

Also, on that other part. Remember that both playable and non-playable had trophies. Reason he's deconfirmed is that the way he appeared as a regular collectible trophy along with the others.

 

[Shuma]

Tingle has been deconfirmed get over it, even if Tingle is Cel Shaded he wouldn't look like **** if he was Playable, also why would Sakurai announce a playable character like Tingle in a screen, when he hasn't done that for anyone else. Get. Over. It.

@Xianfeng:

Jiggs is a Species, unlike those Characters.