Brawl+ (Competitive Hacks): Codes, Videos, and Discussion (THREAD OUT OF DATE)

[storm92]

Obviously, IRL right?

 

[zxeon]

OMG Chibo and I just played a bunch of games (he'll upload them later this week, probably) and Brawl+ Zelda is SOOO good.

Her Dthrow is AMAZING. If you don't DI or DI towards her, she gets a free Usmash. If you DI away, you can tech and she can chase you with whatever she wants—another grab, Fair, Usmash, dash attack, and probably Dtilt. Her kill moves kill much earlier thanks to hitstun, Din's Fire is nice but not broken. Nair, Utilt, and Ftilt actually lead to followups at lower percents. Chasing DI with Usmash is too good, and Uair is much more reliable without BAD.

I love playing her so much in Brawl+. It's like how Melee Zelda should have been in the first place. ^__^

(Before anyone asks, we used
- 11% Hitstun
- MAD
- No Tripping
- L-canceling
- No Locking
... And I think that's it.)

Cool beans. I'll be waiting to see the videos.

 

[kupo15]

Obviously, IRL right?

yes. I never put wifi battles on

 

[Wind Owl]

Obviously, IRL right?

Indeed.

Spoiler

10i<3zelda

 

[kupo15]

i think you should remove the no locks and triple jump code. They don't work right

 

[Starscream]

I actually tried, but for some reason when I load up Brawl with hacks, my SD card isn't recognized in-game, so I can't load up the replays from SD. I'll try again, maybe without the hacks just to see it they load at all...

Are you using Ocarina? If so, try Gecko OS.

 

[CT Chia]

Thats not the codes we used lol, there wasnt no locking. u just cant lock me cause im too good lol

Codes Used:

• No Tripping
• 11% Hitstun
• MAD
• 1.125x Gravity
• L-Canceling

and for fun...

• Infinite Replays
• Unrestricted Pause Camera

So far it's the best set of codes I've used yet, though I'm considering pushing hitstun down to 10 or 10.5x.

 

[Wind Owl]

Thats not the codes we used lol, there wasnt no locking. u just cant lock me cause im too good lol

Oh, lol >_>

 

[Finns7]

Which "competitive" codes dont work online, MAD?

 

[leafgreen386]

Which "competitive" codes dont work online, MAD?

And the ALC, sadly. I tried playing storm yesterday, and we kept desyncing when it was on. It probably has something to do with the way the game sends and receives data, but I think it's gonna need to be fixed to work online.

 

[Finns7]

That is 2 gay but thx for the infoz.

 

[krlos F.]

Well I like to use:

* No Tripping
* Hitstun 11.5% (better than 12.5% I think because its balance)
* MAD
* Auto L-Cancelling
* Infinite Stamina

and just for fun ONLY:
* Music Modifier (I used once because it replace the song permanently)
* Unrestricted Pause camera
* Poison Mushrom Kill you
* Re-Size all assist trophies and pokemon

Well I'm not a pro player but I've uploaded 2 videos using the 5 first codes.

Sheik (me) vs Diddy (bro)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqAybUP4LuQ

Luigi (me) vs Diddy (bro)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uac1mIQQyo

 

[zxeon]

I think that the stale moves system needs to go. Don't worry I have a point.

So it goes like this. I was playing a CPU at luigi's mansion and I got my opponent (Luigi) in a combo and took him to the top of the stage where I tried to KO him with Falco's Uair only to miss sending him past the killzone just barely so intent on not losing my advantage over him I proceeded to again hit him with an Uair but this time he flew even lower, but I did not yield I continued to hit him again and again with Uairs untill he got to 160% and finally expired off the top of the stage.

I think that the loss of knockback on attacks due to stale moves hinders competitive play by taking the away advantage of the attacking player and limiting his options for KOing based just on what moves he ten times prior to his KO attempt. (crap, I lost my train of thought) And so on and so forth.

I Zxeon officially name stale moves a suspect in the obstrucion of competitve play and believe it should be treated as such.

 

[Wind Owl]

Yeah, uh, it's caused ******** things to happen in Brawl even before hitstun. The whole concept is totally ridiculous.

I'm not even sure I like Melee's damage decay, but if someone made a "no knockback decay, just damage decay" code I wouldn't complain. I guess I'd prefer no decay whatsoever, though.

 

[Jiangjunizzy]

You just want to get rid of decay because you use zelda and want to play russian roulette with your stupid kicks and kill people at 50% >:[

 

[zxeon]

You just want to get rid of decay because you use zelda and want to play russian roulette with your stupid kicks and kill people at 50% >:[

Lol, or are you serious?

 

[Wind Owl]

You just want to get rid of decay because you use zelda and want to play russian roulette with your stupid kicks and kill people at 50% >:[

You're a horrible person, I hope you know that.

Also, I main Sheik on the rare occasions that I play vanilla Brawl, and I was thinking of tiltlock when I made that post.

 

[CT Chia]

i really want decay out

no decay + dash dancing + let go of the ledge right away and brawl+ is pretty much done for me lol

 

[leafgreen386]

i really want decay out

no decay + dash dancing + let go of the ledge right away and brawl+ is pretty much done for me lol

You don't want shieldstun?

But yes, I agree. A no decay code would be nice. Either just damage decay or no decay at all would be fine, methinks.

 

[Osi]

Omg, thank you so much for adding this. I love it, the game feels so much better. I was a huge melee fan, and had such a drive to love brawl... but I hate that game so much in the form it was released as. The added depth from these hacks totally made me come back after I returned to melee hehe. Big thanks to all the people putting in effort to remake brawl into something the melee fans who disliked retail brawl will play. It's like a whole different game now, so fast and tech. I almost cried when I did my first real 4 hit combo to a knee with Falcon!!! So awesome.

I hope with how easy the mod is to do that the community can start tourneys with these settings. I would actually go to those!

 

[leafgreen386]

Omg, thank you so much for adding this. I love it, the game feels so much better. I was a huge melee fan, and had such a drive to love brawl... but I hate that game so much in the form it was released as. The added depth from these hacks totally made me come back after I returned to melee hehe. Big thanks to all the people putting in effort to remake brawl into something the melee fans who disliked retail brawl will play. It's like a whole different game now, so fast and tech. I almost cried when I did my first real 4 hit combo to a knee with Falcon!!! So awesome.

I hope with how easy the mod is to do that the community can start tourneys with these settings. I would actually go to those!

Welcome to the dark side.

 

[Alopex]

I'm so freaking STOKED that so much Brawl+ progress has been made.

For me all Brawl+ needs now is Shieldstun and harder Powershielding.

Oh man... I can't wait until those are done. Brawl will be so much more fun...


Now, I have a question about the No Locks codes.

It says that the single No Locks code is in Beta, but the code that combines No Locks with No Triple Jump Glitch doesn't say that.

Does that mean that the combined code is proven and therefore should be used over the single code? I mean, I want to get rid of that TJ glitch anyway, so...

2 codes, or 1 code in terms of reliability thus far?

 

[leafgreen386]

They're both glitchy. Don't use either of them. (Seriously, for the jab lock one, you can just do a gentleman's agreement with your opp not to jab lock... it's not like you're playing a tourney match).

 

[Alopex]

Both glitchy for the No Locks, right? The No TJ Glitch code is still fine?


Gentleman's agreement is dandy for friendlies, like you said, but we do want an eventual perfect No Locks code that can be used for Brawl+ tourneys, yes?

 

[leafgreen386]

They're both glitchy... as in... both the no lock and TJ fix codes are glitchy.

And yes, we do want a no lock code eventually for tournies.

 

[Kyd]

And yes, we do want a no lock code eventually for tournies.

We want to eventually have big turnout tourneys.

 

[leafgreen386]

We want to eventually have big turnout tourneys.

Well, of course. I thought that was implied? These codes aren't much good if no one plays. Getting rid of the gay stuff like that is gonna be pretty much a necessity to get people to actually play in tournies and not have the game degenerate into stupid 0-deaths.

 

[kupo15]

i really want decay out

no decay + dash dancing + let go of the ledge right away and brawl+ is pretty much done for me lol

lol, If you only want no lag ledges, the ledges will be OP. Imagine as Marth for example, up b, auto sweet spot into a lagless ledge so you can immediately do anything. I wonder if this is one reason they added lag to ledges

 

[leafgreen386]

I don't have the actual frame data, but there couldn't be more than 4 or so (8 at the max) frames of lag in melee when grabbing the ledge. You could get on and off very quickly, and for all practical purposes, it was pretty well instant.

I don't think reducing the frames of lag to zero would make them OP... just abusable. We can fix the invincibility frames you get on the ledge, too, if it turns out you can easily stall the ledges.

edit: Six posts in a row with only one post in between each one? I POST TOO MUCH.

 

[Dark Sonic]

lol, If you only want no lag ledges, the ledges will be OP. Imagine as Marth for example, up b, auto sweet spot into a lagless ledge so you can immediately do anything. I wonder if this is one reason they added lag to ledges

It never posed any problems in melee, and Gannondorf, Bowser, and Fox could infinite ledge stall. (though you could technically just wavedash back and grab the ledge before they do, but you can do the same with hugging in brawl).

 

[kupo15]

I don't have the actual frame data, but there couldn't be more than 4 or so (8 at the max) frames of lag in melee when grabbing the ledge. You could get on and off very quickly, and for all practical purposes, it was pretty well instant.

I don't think reducing the frames of lag to zero would make them OP... just abusable. We can fix the invincibility frames you get on the ledge, too, if it turns out you can easily stall the ledges.

edit: Six posts in a row with only one post in between each one? I POST TOO MUCH.

It never posed any problems in melee, and Gannondorf, Bowser, and Fox could infinite ledge stall. (though you could technically just wavedash back and grab the ledge before they do, but you can do the same with hugging in brawl).

No you both misunderstood. Chibo wants to keep the current "auto sweetspot" ledges which means you can grab lagless ledges on the way up instead of waiting for the peak of your up b in melee.

I would have no problem with melee ledges, actually, that IS what I asked the hackers for lol

 

[Dark Sonic]

No you both misunderstood. Chibo wants to keep the current "auto sweetspot" ledges which means you can grab lagless ledges on the way up instead of waiting for the peak of your up b in melee.

I would have no problem with melee ledges, actually, that IS what I asked the hackers for lol

Well now that would cause a problem, especially with how far Marth's up B reaches into the stage (preventing a quick edgehog from most characters).

Auto sweetspotting is so gay.

 

[kupo15]

Auto sweetspotting is so gay.

Yea, Auto SweetSpot ledges (ASL) plus lagless ledges are even gayer.

 

[Dark Sonic]

Yea, Auto SweetSpot ledges (ASL) plus lagless ledges are even gayer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twqSNmMYjRc
1:12
but lagless ledges with no autosweetspot are just so sexy (we should get to work on that.)

 

[kupo15]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twqSNmMYjRc
1:12
but lagless ledges with no autosweetspot are just so sexy (we should get to work on that.)

They are. I PMed PW to refer me to another hacker to take his place until he gets back. The next codes you should be seeing are, "shield stun, nerfed PS, nerfed ledges" all in the same day hopefully

 

[thesage]

I still don't get why people are so against the jab lock. It does like 15 damage if they di it right, plus they have the time to simply roll away lol.

 

[Revven]

I still don't get why people are so against the jab lock. It does like 15 damage if they di it right, plus they have the time to simply roll away lol.

Because it can happen SO often now because more moves put you into the tumble sooner based off of how much hitstun you have on which in turn makes you mistime your tech and thus you fall on your back and can easily get into a jab lock. Which can then happen a second time in the same match if the person misses the tech again.

 

[poklin]

I think its funny how people think jab locking is ok, it's sad what brawl has done to people.

 

[Finns7]

I find that if you press DI down when you ur in the tumle animation and press L or R with pressing down you can tech. This is at 10% for me.

 

[leafgreen386]

I find that if you press DI down when you ur in the tumle animation and press L or R with pressing down you can tech. This is at 10% for me.

Yes. You can tech by pressing L or R as you reach the ground. Thank you for informing us.