Brawl- 2.1.1 Legacy thread

[Supreme Dirt]

I'll totally add you on Skype. This is by far my favourite mod, even more than my own.

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

I'll admit to not doing much of the programming... But yeah, Xyless's post (and somehow I got ninja'd by 2 pages and a day and a half lol) pretty much sums it up as far as how this project works.

Expect 2.1.1 hopefully later today. Mostly bugfixes. Although the DK barrel thing does have me worried.

 

[Yikarur]

is there something known about the DL64 freeze I got? I died and the game froze. (instantly on the first game I've played on it)
I didn't play it afterwards anymore because it seemed to be too risky lol but don't know if it was just coincidence.

 

[Linkshot]

I got ye ol' DK freeze. He airdodged near the blastzone and was either about to land or die, and it just crashed.

I'll admit to not doing much of the programming...

But BPC, your shoddy programming is why we have G&W Anti-Air fSmash! And probably some MK goodies.

 

[Xyless]

is there something known about the DL64 freeze I got? I died and the game froze. (instantly on the first game I've played on it)
I didn't play it afterwards anymore because it seemed to be too risky lol but don't know if it was just coincidence.

Could you give some details? Like do you know what characters you were using, where you died, did it freeze right when you die or when you respawned, etc?

 

[Linkshot]

Could you give some details? Like do you know what characters you were using, where you died, did it freeze right when you die or when you respawned, etc?

WAS HE USING DK
I bet he was using DK.

 

[DtJ Composer]

New episode of Smashing Adventures up! :3
http://youtu.be/XZJM88hfwOU

Unfortunately it's still 2.0 and I might've just been super lazy about uploading it <.<

 

[Yikarur]

WAS HE USING DK
I bet he was using DK.

xD

Yoshi vs. DK on DL64

I died, we saw the dying and then the game crashed (respawn)
don't know if barrels where involved because the main focus were on me dying.

 

[Linkshot]

xD

Yoshi vs. DK on DL64

I died, we saw the dying and then the game crashed (respawn)
don't know if barrels where involved because the main focus were on me dying.

TOLD YOU

I think when Aerial DownB was put in, it screwed up his action transitioning a bit.

 

[Alopex]

Hey guys, I just want to mention that if you want to pitch ideas, your views on characters, any issue you may have, or whatever else, I'm personally always looking for new things to consider.

So if you have anything you're looking for in a character that you think should be, or maybe something that should be changed, let me know by either PM'ing me or getting in touch with me with Skype (my Skype is XylessBrawl).

/advertising

You guys aren't planning on adding too many more balance-affecting things, though, are you Xyless?

I mean, aside from the few bugs (Jet Hammer slowness, Zard grab release on Mother boys, and looking into what's making DK crash games), I think B- is really at a point where it can start being used competitively.
Or, at least, be used competitively so we can see if it CAN be used competitively. Know what I mean?

We all know that B+ never really got off the ground because it never had room to breathe. I think B-, balance-wise, is ready to breathe and get a proper metagame.

So with the exception of possible tweaks to Samus since she is so new and might need further polish upon hardcore public playtesting, I'd be hesitant to make many more changes that aren't just for teh lulz (like Snake taunt crawl.... brilliant!). But I am not on the team, so this is just an opinion.

 

[Xyless]

You guys aren't planning on adding too many more balance-affecting things, though, are you Xyless?

I mean, aside from the few bugs (Jet Hammer slowness, Zard grab release on Mother boys, and looking into what's making DK crash games), I think B- is really at a point where it can start being used competitively.
Or, at least, be used competitively so we can see if it CAN be used competitively. Know what I mean?

We all know that B+ never really got off the ground because it never had room to breathe. I think B-, balance-wise, is ready to breathe and get a proper metagame.

So with the exception of possible tweaks to Samus since she is so new and might need further polish upon hardcore public playtesting, I'd be hesitant to make many more changes that aren't just for teh lulz (like Snake taunt crawl.... brilliant!). But I am not on the team, so this is just an opinion.

For this quick update, that'll be going up in a bit, no, it's just a major bug fix for ZSS vs Captain Falcon (Falcon physically explodes all over the screen because of a pointer that was added to ZSS), reverting DDD back, and a couple of side things to cover some of the issues.

However, I, personally, agree with you, though I believe we probably just need one more major update, which will probably even out some of the higher characters like Luigi, Wolf, (new) Sonic, and a couple of others. I think the low and mid tiers are amazingly close, though, and have tons of depth to them as well.

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

I got ye ol' DK freeze. He airdodged near the blastzone and was either about to land or die, and it just crashed.



But BPC, your shoddy programming is why we have G&W Anti-Air fSmash! And probably some MK goodies.

That wasn't me...

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

Check the second post, we now officially have a PAL release.

 

[Linkshot]

For DDD, I think you should put his Autocancel UpB landing back. It makes his recovery safer and can potentially be a techchase game.

 

[Virum]

You guys aren't planning on adding too many more balance-affecting things, though, are you Xyless?

I mean, aside from the few bugs (Jet Hammer slowness, Zard grab release on Mother boys, and looking into what's making DK crash games), I think B- is really at a point where it can start being used competitively.
Or, at least, be used competitively so we can see if it CAN be used competitively. Know what I mean?

We all know that B+ never really got off the ground because it never had room to breathe. I think B-, balance-wise, is ready to breathe and get a proper metagame.

So with the exception of possible tweaks to Samus since she is so new and might need further polish upon hardcore public playtesting, I'd be hesitant to make many more changes that aren't just for teh lulz (like Snake taunt crawl.... brilliant!). But I am not on the team, so this is just an opinion.

I agree, I'd love to see Brawl- in a more competitive environment. Considering that it's considerably more balanced than vBrawl, I don't see why it couldn't be used. Brawl- is an ideal codeset. It's one with enough accessibility to allow for newer players to have a lot of fun and pick up and play, but it has enough depth to allow for advanced players to really construct some awesome strategies with it.

As regards to installation of the mod, have any really drastic changes been made to Donkey Kong from V2 to V2.1? As in has his balance been affected in any major way. I'm fully aware of his barrel freezing glitch in 2.1, but I don't think it's there in 2.0. Therefore I'm merely asking so that I can use 2.1 for every other character, but 2.0 for DK.

 

[Yikarur]

there will be a tournament hosted by Cadet at Sunday! ^-^ and he'll record videos for sure

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

Indeed. Videos will be had. **** will be cash.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

Xyless if I hadn't just married I'd propose to you

 

[Meru.]

there will be a tournament hosted by cadet at sunday! ^-^ and he'll record videos for sure

I WILL BE THERE TOO WOOOOH

not sure if I'll be participating though...

 

[Linkshot]

I agree, I'd love to see Brawl- in a more competitive environment. Considering that it's considerably more balanced than vBrawl, I don't see why it couldn't be used.

People are *****y and refuse to pick up anything that isn't released by official designers.

EDIT: Dear god Kirby CPU what the ****

 

[cicerron]

Hi!^^ I downloaded the PAL release, but, I don't see any changes. And, in the private folder in the PAL pack, there is a folder "RSBE", this is normal?

This is my first SSBB hack, so I could make a mistake. And sorry for my bad english, I'm french ^^"

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

I WILL BE THERE TOO WOOOOH

not sure if I'll be participating though...

PARTICIPATE YOU GIGANTIC ******

Hi!^^ I downloaded the PAL release, but, I don't see any changes. And, in the private folder in the PAL pack, there is a folder "RSBE", this is normal?

This is my first SSBB hack, so I could make a mistake. And sorry for my bad english, I'm french ^^"

Redownload. It got ****ed up, lol. We fixed it now (I think?)

 

[cicerron]

But; this is the same link, no? I redownload it but it is the same pack ^^"


I'll wait, I'm not in rush ^_^

 

[JOE!]

what tourney/where?

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Been playing a lot of Minus the past little while against Douhneill's Peach, and Peach seems a fairly polar character. She just ***** a bunch of characters (Bowser and DK(rash) among them) but gets messed up really badly by a bunch of silly things (she has trouble dealing with Water Gun for one, combined with Squirtle's aerials it's just so difficult for Peach to get back onstage)

Also, the Peach-Samus MU is so lulzy. It's a complete momentum-based MU, once a player gets momentum the only real way they won't get a stock is if they screw up or if Peach gets a Bob-Omb or something. Also Peach just seems to have so much trouble dealing with Homing Missiles, but that might be a lot more characters.

Also Super Ice Missiles <3

 

[Xyless]

Don't forget that Toad is very reliable for a lot of situations, possibly even moreso than her dodge at times if you know for sure you're going to get attacked, since she can act out of it.

 

[Linkshot]

Can't she just nAir through all of Samus' explosives? I know that the CPU Peach is nigh unstoppable, even giving myself trouble.

 

[DiamondbodySharpshooter]

Oh, sweet! Gotta love them patches. So pro~

 

[Yikarur]

Can't she just nAir through all of Samus' explosives? I know that the CPU Peach is nigh unstoppable, even giving myself trouble.

if you destroy them, then you'll get frozen :D:D

 

[Captain Hindsight]

I have a question about the changelist.

"Dedede: maximum number of waddles raised to five"

"Donkey Kong: side taunt heals 6% total"

Waddles are still limited to four and DK's taunt only heals 5% though.

Did someone forget to add those changes or are they just typing errors in the changelist?

 

[standardtoaster]

They are just typing errors.

 

[Xyless]

Yeah, we can't increase the WD count any higher, if I remember correctly. Having too many out can cause freezing or something.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Peach can't just NAir through them all if you time them smartly. If you just mash as Samus to get them out as quickly as possible, yeah, she can. Also yeah, Toad is ****ing gay.

 

[Saran Hasnor]

I doubt the PAL version is meant to have an RSBE folder... can we correct that ourselves or do we have to wait for an actual fix?
Also, will it work on non-english PAL versions?

 

[cicerron]

What do you mean about "non-english PAL version"?

Because I'm using a french PAL version...

 

[standardtoaster]

Saran Hasnor, yes, just rename the RSBE folder to RSBP. This was an error on BPC's part.

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

I didn't make it >.>

 

[standardtoaster]

You posted it, though. :V

 

[Clai]

I know that the Mario scrolling stages are faster to be more 'Minus-fied,' but the stage insta-killed me before the match even started, not to mention it's now super-easy to just grab the opponent, wait a short bit and then toss them into the blast zone. I know all stages can't be competitive, but that stage is going in the wrong direction, in my opinion.

 

[Linkshot]

I know that the Mario scrolling stages are faster to be more 'Minus-fied,' but the stage insta-killed me before the match even started, not to mention it's now super-easy to just grab the opponent, wait a short bit and then toss them into the blast zone. I know all stages can't be competitive, but that stage is going in the wrong direction, in my opinion.

This has to be entirely false as I have beaten Super Bowser Bros. (Event 6) before.