Red Arremer
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Sorry about that, internet acted up and froze on me, I guess it must've taken the post before I could paste. :<
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adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
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Yes, he most likely did.
But understand I'm differentiating between "having an ability" and "being a power role", as I said before, it seems at this point like everyone has abilities, but the power roles are a head and shoulders above the others. The really minor roles (such as passive stuff, ex. bomb) I could see him just incorporating in abilities, but things like multi-scan,
Honestly, answer me this, why have about half the people who've died so far have flavor-related roles and the other half have roles that are completely unrelated, all of which are traditional mafia roles? Hell, how come half of them he gave out the ability (at least one of them, power roles probably have flavored abilities beyond their role ability) by simply naming them and the rest we simply have to guess?
We had:
Gau, town cop (no flavor connection), Umaro, town raging sasquatch (obvious flavor connection), Cyan, town roleblocker (no flavor connection), Relm, Town Copier (obvious flavor connection), Setzer, Town Gambler (obvious flavor connection and Kappa, Town Knowledgeable Mason (no flavor connection).
Yeah, he could make up a role, but part of the principal of flavor is not letting flavor interfere with the gameplay (the pretty pink unicorn should be as much a mafia possibility as the monster in the closet, and zork the destroyer should have just as much a chance of being cop).
So, I guess out of all of this, if we're assuming that we don't know who has powers, how come he gave us the powers of some, but not others?
Take a look, relatively small number of posts, but frustratingly low on content, a couple of empty observations, no real attempts at scumhunting.
Post count isn't everything in regards to activity, why are you staying so low?
What I mean is that he backed off considerably, especially towards the end of the day, he had dropped pretty much all his ongoing conflicts and was mostly just giving advice to people.
Again, this is relative to his previous activity level and level of interaction where he'd been starting bandwagons consistently and constantly scumhunting and pressuring people. If Mafia was looking for an opportune moment to smack him down with very limited possible conclusions to be drawn from it, that was the time.
Yes, he most likely did.
But understand I'm differentiating between "having an ability" and "being a power role", as I said before, it seems at this point like everyone has abilities, but the power roles are a head and shoulders above the others. The really minor roles (such as passive stuff, ex. bomb) I could see him just incorporating in abilities, but things like multi-scan,
Honestly, answer me this, why have about half the people who've died so far have flavor-related roles and the other half have roles that are completely unrelated, all of which are traditional mafia roles? Hell, how come half of them he gave out the ability (at least one of them, power roles probably have flavored abilities beyond their role ability) by simply naming them and the rest we simply have to guess?
We had:
Gau, town cop (no flavor connection), Umaro, town raging sasquatch (obvious flavor connection), Cyan, town roleblocker (no flavor connection), Relm, Town Copier (obvious flavor connection), Setzer, Town Gambler (obvious flavor connection and Kappa, Town Knowledgeable Mason (no flavor connection).
Yeah, he could make up a role, but part of the principal of flavor is not letting flavor interfere with the gameplay (the pretty pink unicorn should be as much a mafia possibility as the monster in the closet, and zork the destroyer should have just as much a chance of being cop).
So, I guess out of all of this, if we're assuming that we don't know who has powers, how come he gave us the powers of some, but not others?
Yes he can, but again, it doesn't fit the pattern he's shown.
http://www.smashboards.com/search.php?searchid=3408247
Take a look, relatively small number of posts, but frustratingly low on content, a couple of empty observations, no real attempts at scumhunting.
Post count isn't everything in regards to activity, why are you staying so low?
What I mean is that he backed off considerably, especially towards the end of the day, he had dropped pretty much all his ongoing conflicts and was mostly just giving advice to people.
Again, this is relative to his previous activity level and level of interaction where he'd been starting bandwagons consistently and constantly scumhunting and pressuring people. If Mafia was looking for an opportune moment to smack him down with very limited possible conclusions to be drawn from it, that was the time.
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
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Also, I notice how Shaya was identified as a knowledgeable mason, so I don't think swordgard knew chibo was town while he was alive.
Also, I notice how Shaya was identified as a knowledgeable mason, so I don't think swordgard knew chibo was town while he was alive.
Hey guys, hope you have fun.
DtJ Hilt
Little Lizard
It's miller, not mason.
Who are you suspicious of, adum?
Who are you suspicious of, adum?
Red Arremer
Smash Legend
@adumbro:
Miller =/= Mason
A miller is simply someone who is identified as scum by the cop, although not being scum.
A mason is someone who knows the alignment/role/etc. of another player.
We don't know what exactly Shaya knew, so it doesn't matter anyway.
As for your question:
How about this: Why would I rename some roles that I can assign and that everyone understands?
Even IF Overswarm gave flavor-related names to several characters, what gives off the impression that those roles have no powers?
Seriously, your reliance on flavour and Gambler's Fallacy is getting too suspicious for my tastes.
Vote: adumbrodeus
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Miller =/= Mason
A miller is simply someone who is identified as scum by the cop, although not being scum.
A mason is someone who knows the alignment/role/etc. of another player.
We don't know what exactly Shaya knew, so it doesn't matter anyway.
As for your question:
How about this: Why would I rename some roles that I can assign and that everyone understands?
Even IF Overswarm gave flavor-related names to several characters, what gives off the impression that those roles have no powers?
Seriously, your reliance on flavour and Gambler's Fallacy is getting too suspicious for my tastes.
Vote: adumbrodeus
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adumbrodeus
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OS, which is it?
Did you just miss my attempt to start a bandwagon on SL?
That might be a clue.
I initially thought I just misread the kill post, but it turns out that YES, OS did in fact put different roles for him on the kill post and the initial post of the thread.
OS, which is it?
Did you just miss my attempt to start a bandwagon on SL?
That might be a clue.
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
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Answered above, OS made a mistake in one or the other.
And yes, the possibility that OS is merely ****ing with us does exist, it's the only logical explanation beyond this. That said, right now I have no reason to believe that OS isn't a good mod and isn't attempting to just screw us all over.
How's it gambler's fallacy?
Answered above, OS made a mistake in one or the other.
As I said before, they most likely do have abilities, just the "power roles" have abilities above and beyond that level.
And yes, the possibility that OS is merely ****ing with us does exist, it's the only logical explanation beyond this. That said, right now I have no reason to believe that OS isn't a good mod and isn't attempting to just screw us all over.
How's it gambler's fallacy?
Red Arremer
Smash Legend
This isn't, your "statistics" of mafia killing power roles was, though.
However, you are not very helpful currently, as everything you do simply is playing with probabilities of how Overswarm might think. And believe me, NOONE can predict or even imagine what Overswarm is thinking. He's Overswarm. You cannot think that a logical explanation applies to him. If he was someone else, yea, maybe, but it's Overswarm we're talking about here.
You cannot determine if someone had a power role, ability or anything else by going about how Overswarm named the character roles. It's silly.
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adumbrodeus
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That was post-analysis and since it was meta-analysis (due to the fact that it was working backwards) the events were connected and therefore, it wasn't gambler's fallacy.
But this isn't a reading thing, this is more conventions of good modding for mafia (along with not lying to players, hence the reason the death miller is such a vilified role).
Seriously, if he's pulling that sort of crap, I'd strongly consider quitting on the spot.
That's not gambler's fallacy, gambler's fallacy is the belief that you're owed a continuation on unconnected events.
That was post-analysis and since it was meta-analysis (due to the fact that it was working backwards) the events were connected and therefore, it wasn't gambler's fallacy.
But this isn't a reading thing, this is more conventions of good modding for mafia (along with not lying to players, hence the reason the death miller is such a vilified role).
Seriously, if he's pulling that sort of crap, I'd strongly consider quitting on the spot.
Geez I have a lot to weigh in on. Two more town kills? That's 3 dead townies in a quick turnaround. Not good at all.
As for Shadow, I am conflicted. In the game, he's just a mercenery. However, if you get all his dreams, and recruit him he really is a good guy.
This is a flavor theory but as soon as Relm died Shadow killed, perhaps that unlocked his kill ability? (Relm is Shadow's daughter in FF6 and the only thing keeping him human/emotionally attached) The fact that if he was somehow connected to Relm (Reflex) a townie, makes me lean toward town vig, but I'm pretty open to the idiea that hes an independent SK as well.
As far who had connections to Shaya, I'll be the first to say I indeed had suspicions of him being mafia, but he wasn't anywhere near the top 3 suspicious people. To me the players who have gone off about useless crap, try to make themselves look helpful when they are not are Adumbrodeus and Chibo. However, Chibo is confirmed town..I'm really leaning on a vote to Adumbrodeus here. I have not been a fan of him, but I have tolerated it because I wanted to focus on inactives, who were possibly scum laying low. So far everyone that's laid low has turned up down, so I think it's really best to drop this strategy.
Again, to reiterate, so far every person who has "laid low" and died has turned town - this includes Shaya - he wasn't exactly the most active. I'm starting to feel like mafia is playing a smart game and the mafia we need to find appear highly pro town
If Shadow's a vig, it's possible he wouldn't kill anyone that he thought town would end up lynching anyway. If he's a SK, maybe he knew Shaya was suspecting him? Either way I don't think we have enough information to trace him if/until we see two kills and are able to draw some solid parallels.
I'm gonna keep the pressure on and vote every post. Vote: Adumbrodeus
I think Omni fits the pattern of who mafia has struck very fittingly, personally. While he's been extremely active this game, I'm strongly convinced they are targetting the least active or least traceable kills per each Day as to minimize the connection that can be drawn between the dead and the mafia. Omni's been very active, but compared to everyone else Day 3, he was rather dormant. (To answer Hilt's question about Omni being active) Personally, I'm thinking we should look back through posts and find someone who has NOT had beef with Omni since Day 1. I get the strong feeling that Mafia though "finally, I can get rid of this guy" because Omni was very helpful to towns case, and experienced, and they finally saw the chance to take him out. I believe Bardull is one person going off memory, but I know there's more. I will go back through the thread after I get off work, later tonight for more connections/suspects.
As for Shadow, I am conflicted. In the game, he's just a mercenery. However, if you get all his dreams, and recruit him he really is a good guy.
This is a flavor theory but as soon as Relm died Shadow killed, perhaps that unlocked his kill ability? (Relm is Shadow's daughter in FF6 and the only thing keeping him human/emotionally attached) The fact that if he was somehow connected to Relm (Reflex) a townie, makes me lean toward town vig, but I'm pretty open to the idiea that hes an independent SK as well.
As far who had connections to Shaya, I'll be the first to say I indeed had suspicions of him being mafia, but he wasn't anywhere near the top 3 suspicious people. To me the players who have gone off about useless crap, try to make themselves look helpful when they are not are Adumbrodeus and Chibo. However, Chibo is confirmed town..I'm really leaning on a vote to Adumbrodeus here. I have not been a fan of him, but I have tolerated it because I wanted to focus on inactives, who were possibly scum laying low. So far everyone that's laid low has turned up down, so I think it's really best to drop this strategy.
Again, to reiterate, so far every person who has "laid low" and died has turned town - this includes Shaya - he wasn't exactly the most active. I'm starting to feel like mafia is playing a smart game and the mafia we need to find appear highly pro town
If Shadow's a vig, it's possible he wouldn't kill anyone that he thought town would end up lynching anyway. If he's a SK, maybe he knew Shaya was suspecting him? Either way I don't think we have enough information to trace him if/until we see two kills and are able to draw some solid parallels.
I'm gonna keep the pressure on and vote every post. Vote: Adumbrodeus
Two corrections to the post above:
As far Shadow, *If we go by flavor I would be conflicted.* In the game FF6, he's just a mercenery. However if unlock all the dreams and recruit him you see he's a good guy, so going by flavor, there's no way to get a handle on his alignement, so I think we should ignore flavor.
Everyone who has laid low has turned up town*
As far Shadow, *If we go by flavor I would be conflicted.* In the game FF6, he's just a mercenery. However if unlock all the dreams and recruit him you see he's a good guy, so going by flavor, there's no way to get a handle on his alignement, so I think we should ignore flavor.
Everyone who has laid low has turned up town*
And I think we should stop the discussion on what kind of powers Omni and Shaya had. Who cares? They died. Stop needless drabble on something that's so irrelevant to finding scum. I was making this mistake earlier in the game, going into whether or not I think mafia was focusing on power roles and if they knew who had them, but I've realized this has done NOTHING to help us. How about we search deeper into who else would have a reason to kill Omni and Shaya?
I think bardull was right that we can't use who voted for Reflex to determine much. He was really inactive and thats why we all voted for him. If he turned up mafia we could have found out a bunch.
I think bardull was right that we can't use who voted for Reflex to determine much. He was really inactive and thats why we all voted for him. If he turned up mafia we could have found out a bunch.
Red Arremer
Smash Legend
This isn't, your "statistics" of mafia killing power roles was, though.
However, you are not very helpful currently, as everything you do simply is playing with probabilities of how Overswarm might think. And believe me, NOONE can predict or even imagine what Overswarm is thinking. He's Overswarm. You cannot think that a logical explanation applies to him. If he was someone else, yea, maybe, but it's Overswarm we're talking about here.
You cannot determine if someone had a power role, ability or anything else by going about how Overswarm named the character roles. It's silly.
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Red Arremer
Smash Legend
Whoops, sorry, copypasta fail. x.x
Just ignore the above posting.
What I wanted to say is:
I agree with Edrees. Adumbrodeus has been tossing around theories about the power roles that have been killed since Day 2, and that makes him very dangerous, because if he isn't scum, he's a horrible town player.
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Just ignore the above posting.
What I wanted to say is:
I agree with Edrees. Adumbrodeus has been tossing around theories about the power roles that have been killed since Day 2, and that makes him very dangerous, because if he isn't scum, he's a horrible town player.
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adumbrodeus
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Regardless, this post smells, you're saying "mafia is playing a very smart game and appearing to be very pro town"... yet you pick me and chibo as your targets (eliminating chibo because he's confirmed town). I stood out since the beginning of the game because I was confident, but had major oversights related to the transition between irl play and online play, and I've been a major suspect since then. If you were gonna pick somebody who APPEARED to be pro-town since the beginning... were I not me and didn't know my alignment, at this point I'd be pointing a finger at well.... just about anyone else.
However, I'm gonna agree with what Marc said yesterday in regards to me at this point. Yes, I expect you to all take me up on this.
(especially since I'm starting to think joel is right about OS)
Heh, obviously this game is allergic to nightkill analysis.
I will point out that there are most likely 3 mafia based on their nightkilling successes.
Regardless, don't try to play it off like that, you've been gunning for me for a while, Hilt only gave you an excuse.
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Vote:AdumbroDeus
So let's get this show rolling shall we?
This post reflects a ****load of what I said, including the "maybe we shouldn't be lynching the inactives" way back in day two.
Regardless, this post smells, you're saying "mafia is playing a very smart game and appearing to be very pro town"... yet you pick me and chibo as your targets (eliminating chibo because he's confirmed town). I stood out since the beginning of the game because I was confident, but had major oversights related to the transition between irl play and online play, and I've been a major suspect since then. If you were gonna pick somebody who APPEARED to be pro-town since the beginning... were I not me and didn't know my alignment, at this point I'd be pointing a finger at well.... just about anyone else.
However, I'm gonna agree with what Marc said yesterday in regards to me at this point. Yes, I expect you to all take me up on this.
(especially since I'm starting to think joel is right about OS)
Attempting to derive something actually useful from seemingly raw luck night?
Heh, obviously this game is allergic to nightkill analysis.
I will point out that there are most likely 3 mafia based on their nightkilling successes.
Regardless, don't try to play it off like that, you've been gunning for me for a while, Hilt only gave you an excuse.
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Vote:AdumbroDeus
So let's get this show rolling shall we?
This is either brilliant, or the most bone-headed maneuver, ever.
Perhaps I should clarify. I meant not someone who appears pro town, but someone who is trying really hard to appear pro town. As in high activity, a lot of information, a lot of theories, but none of them leading anywhere. This is opposed to lurkers or medium/non active people.
And .... I am uber confused as to why you voted for yourself.
And .... I am uber confused as to why you voted for yourself.
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
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Sounds like you're just making a retraction when you got inconvenient result.
I'm also gonna note that it's been almost entirely the same people who've been on my case in regards to the analysis stuff.
Attempting to draw it out at every turn, and ignoring the possibility that anything useful might come out of, like i dunno, most likely number of mafia members.
Should give people plenty to sit on once I've been flipped.
Then why chibo too? He didn't toss out theories or anything, he was just... there. Especially since it conflicts with you "playing a smart" game theory.
Sounds like you're just making a retraction when you got inconvenient result.
Because currently, I agree with Marc, I'm gonna be more useful when I've been flipped, left tons of stuff to analyze and pretty much everyone's commented on me.
I'm also gonna note that it's been almost entirely the same people who've been on my case in regards to the analysis stuff.
Attempting to draw it out at every turn, and ignoring the possibility that anything useful might come out of, like i dunno, most likely number of mafia members.
Should give people plenty to sit on once I've been flipped.
How does Chibo not fit that description of appearing town but failing at it? He is also by no means inactive. Chibo used snare on Omni. It's just that everything he has contributed, I feel like hasn't helped or has smelt like BS to me. I picked you two guys because I was trying to pick out who has had the most ridiculous or left field ideas but has also been relatively active. Also, I was factoring in players Omni and Shaya had beefs with, (as said in my original large post) and Omni had a huge beef with Chibo. That's why I mentioned you both to fit the mold of what I'm going to start looking for, and I picked you for the vote because of the whole 'confirmed town' thing on his part.
And what do you mean I'm making a retraction? Where is my retraction? Quote it for me.
adumbrodeus
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Is very different from this:
Not that I mind much at the moment, but I'm gonna be very sure to point it out.
Currently Pierce is the only living player with fewer posts on this thread then Chibo, Chibo also has contributed very little content as far as his posts, short posts, little theory, no scumhunting. It strikes me as he's always been doing the minimum to get by.
This:
Is very different from this:
Not that I mind much at the moment, but I'm gonna be very sure to point it out.
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Vote: Chibo.
I'm probably going to switch the the Adam wagon in a second (it's what Omni would do, may he RIP, I promise to try and win the game for him) but first I wanna hear from OS. OS, when Chibo's mason partner died, a message was left saying Chibo was town. Now, to me, you leaving a message that says Chibo is town means Chibo is town, but some people are willing to take nothing for granted, and that's fair in a game like this. However, if you said it once by intent of revealing information, you should really not have a problem confirming something you previously stated if you said it with intent to inform the players.
So is Chibo guaranteed confirmed town?
I'm probably going to switch the the Adam wagon in a second (it's what Omni would do, may he RIP, I promise to try and win the game for him) but first I wanna hear from OS. OS, when Chibo's mason partner died, a message was left saying Chibo was town. Now, to me, you leaving a message that says Chibo is town means Chibo is town, but some people are willing to take nothing for granted, and that's fair in a game like this. However, if you said it once by intent of revealing information, you should really not have a problem confirming something you previously stated if you said it with intent to inform the players.
So is Chibo guaranteed confirmed town?
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EBWOP:
I forgot votes need Bold
Vote:Chibo
I forgot votes need Bold
Vote:Chibo
DtJ Hilt
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Chibo shouldn't even be considered for lynch until we catch at LEAST one mafia first. He really needs to say more, though.
Adum, do you understand that if you are town, your lynch could possibly put us at lylo or a game loss? What you're doing isn't protown, regardless of what you may think.
Adum, do you understand that if you are town, your lynch could possibly put us at lylo or a game loss? What you're doing isn't protown, regardless of what you may think.
adumbrodeus
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Look, at this point, it doesn't take a mind-reader to see that I've managed to make myself the most obvious lynch out there, by my reckoning, next game day is lynch or lose, and I sure as hell don't wanna be the most likely lynch choice when we're at lynch or lose.
So, at this point I'm going for "let's cut our losses" tact, and see what I can stir up to ease lylo next game day.
Yeah, by not getting lynch first day and swordgard getting modkilled, we ended up in a horrible position, I don't see a way out without something drastic.
So, at this point I'm going for "let's cut our losses" tact, and see what I can stir up to ease lylo next game day.
Yeah, by not getting lynch first day and swordgard getting modkilled, we ended up in a horrible position, I don't see a way out without something drastic.
DtJ Hilt
Little Lizard
Why don't you scumhunt for awhile during the Day and we'll worry about if you're the one to get lynched or not when it gets a little closer to the deadline. Tomorrow isn't Lylo if we find scum.
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I'm not sure what you're playing at, but it's working, because your behavior is pretty anti-town.
adumbrodeus
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Eh, but nothing wrong with getting the scumhunting in that I can.
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Vote:Shadowlink
For now, I'll go with my original plan for this game day.
At this point I recognize that, knowing that I'm a townie, being the most likely lynch choice in lylo isn't a good situation.
If I end up getting lynched in lylo, pre-emptive "I told you so".
But we have better odds of finding scum tomorrow, Omni was right, at this point, my history made me too much of a liability to risk having in lylo.
Eh, but nothing wrong with getting the scumhunting in that I can.
unvote
Vote:Shadowlink
For now, I'll go with my original plan for this game day.
Look at the past game days, I've produced a lot of action, but I've managed to make myself too suspicious.
At this point I recognize that, knowing that I'm a townie, being the most likely lynch choice in lylo isn't a good situation.
If I end up getting lynched in lylo, pre-emptive "I told you so".
Pierce, I take it you're playing for real now?
Adumbrodeus' recent play seems very weird to me. Usually when people vote for themselves it's to show how willing they are to sacrifice themselves for the greater good and it's very rarely a Town move. His logic also isn't very sound, but that's nothing new, I suppose. I agree with him saying ShadowLink hasn't proven too useful, but I'd like to hear what is actually scummy about that and why ShadowLink (as opposed to Chibo, Joel, Pierce etc). We're a bit too far into the game to off people who are pretty much non-factors and while I wouldn't have minded a lynch like that earlier on, I really need more convincing. Right now it just seems like an easy target to accompany a strange move (self-sacrifice) which is supposed to convince everyone of Townhood. I guess it all seems a little too planned out, since adumbrodeus is a very obvious lynch choice considering how Day 3 went.
I hope that made sense since I'm really tired and about to head to bed. Basically I'm getting a strange feeling and feel we shouldn't rush into anything.
Someone get me a bucket. Statements like these don't sit well with me. More importantly, I don't get the vote for Chibo. Admittedly, him being cleared fully hinges on the statement made by OS, but consensus seems to be that it can be trusted.
Adumbrodeus' recent play seems very weird to me. Usually when people vote for themselves it's to show how willing they are to sacrifice themselves for the greater good and it's very rarely a Town move. His logic also isn't very sound, but that's nothing new, I suppose. I agree with him saying ShadowLink hasn't proven too useful, but I'd like to hear what is actually scummy about that and why ShadowLink (as opposed to Chibo, Joel, Pierce etc). We're a bit too far into the game to off people who are pretty much non-factors and while I wouldn't have minded a lynch like that earlier on, I really need more convincing. Right now it just seems like an easy target to accompany a strange move (self-sacrifice) which is supposed to convince everyone of Townhood. I guess it all seems a little too planned out, since adumbrodeus is a very obvious lynch choice considering how Day 3 went.
I hope that made sense since I'm really tired and about to head to bed. Basically I'm getting a strange feeling and feel we shouldn't rush into anything.
Red Arremer
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You're just voting for Chibo grounded on the fact Omni did?
This seems pretty weird to me.
I dunno, is it just me or have some players suddenly turned nutty today?
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Yes
Don't look to deep into it. I seriously didn't mean anything by it.
Well, I look at it like this: His actions are anti-town. Considering we've seem to hit no mafia, it would be FOOLISH to encourage a lynch on yourself if you really are town. It's likely that one more townie will die at night, and maybe even another one if Shadow strikes again. Potentially losing THREE more townies, and taking out no Mafia means this might BE Lylo. I'm not super experienced, but I don't see this type of strategy being pulled out wisely when we've yet to actually lynch any Mafia.
So, possibilities:
He's town, and he's making a very stupid play, or a play that I'm not good enough to understand/that I disagree with.
He's town, and has an ability which will help us when he dies.
He's independant, and he's like a jester, or has some other role.
He's mafia, and he's trying to protect Shadow so Mafia can make two more kills.
He's mafia, and he, or some other Mafia has some method of protection or unseen ability that will make his death beneficial.
He's mafia, and he thinks that we'll be too scared/convinced to lynch him, so he's using this as a desperation tactic to avoid the chopping block.
He's anything, but he has a posting restriction which makes him vote for himself. We have seen that people have had restrictions added.
Of course, I can't yet truly see the outcome of this situation, but so far more options seem to lead him being Mafia, and this is a silly move for a townie anyway. I'm leaning towards lynch, but I wanna hear from Chibo.
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Miller, my bad!
They just both start with M.
Red Arremer
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You forgot to add my vote to adumbrodeus, Overswarm
DtJ Hilt
Little Lizard
OS, with nine alive it should take five to lynch.
Overswarm
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I need to start reading what I'm putting into the posts rather than copy/pasting and editing from something I have open in notepad. -_-;;
ShadowLink84
Smash Hero
Gay
Are you seriously trying to push an argument that I already showed had no weight?
The NUMBER of posts is meaningless in comparison to the amount of content provided.
For example, the amount of posts you have is greater, but its like your post restriction.
It is a whole lot of meaningless jabber.
Your theories have all been based on MASSIVE assumptions.
Frankly, I think its at the point where I think you're purposely wasting time with all of these theories.
You said it yourself, the most suspicious individual in this game is you.
Foine. That I can understand since I suspected such a notion as well.
unvote
We REALLY need Chibo to be more active.
Vote: Pierce7D
Why are you voting for a confirmed townie?
Why should you not be suspected as scum?
ShadowLink84
Smash Hero
Ugh sorry, comp spazzed again
As I was trying to finish.
Whom do you feel is most likely to be a townie? Besides Chibo of course?
I'm a double's genius
As I was trying to finish.
Whom do you feel is most likely to be a townie? Besides Chibo of course?
I'm a double's genius
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Shadowlink84 has messed up a posting restriction and has received a punishment.
By the way: "internet acting up and froze up on me" isn't a valid excuse. I'll consider it a cosmological sign you should be punished for not completing your restrictions, so don't try it on me anymore
By the way: "internet acting up and froze up on me" isn't a valid excuse. I'll consider it a cosmological sign you should be punished for not completing your restrictions, so don't try it on me anymore
ShadowLink84
Smash Hero
But my computer does spaz... =(Shadowlink84 has messed up a posting restriction and has received a punishment.
By the way: "internet acting up and froze up on me" isn't a valid excuse. I'll consider it a cosmological sign you should be punished for not completing your restrictions, so don't try it on me anymore
I'm a double's genius
