All caught up ^_^. Kuz, Gova, and Delvro are all ******** (and now Ryker, but I expected as much from him). Kuz is playing just aweful. Probably scum. Kuz you say you want scummies to shoot scummies, but how the hell would we determine who the scummies are without some sort of votecount!!!?? Everyone's opinion differs so we need to take vote counts to determine who the majority want to shoot and be shot. Your wanting scummies to shoot scummies is contradictory to not wanting a vote count.
Gova, the vote count didn't work in BIM3 because it was a horrible town. So far this game looks like it will have a decent amount of activity. BIM3 are so called experienced players, but they sucked hard core because of this arrogance. It's players like you that prevent town from progressing as you simply create dishormony. You're preventing a system from possibly succeeding before it is even tried out with this group. Your refute of the vote system is so anti-town, it's ridiculous.
Here is what we are doing:
-We vote for who we want lynched. Seph, Lux, and July will take care of the vote count.
-Once majority is reached at any time, we will then proceed to the second vote count of who we want to be shooter. Again, Seph, Luxor, and July will be keeping track.
SO LONG AS WE STICK TO IT WE WILL WIN. The problem past BIMs have had is that everyone is so caught up in the power that THEY themselves have and thus fail to work as a group authority. I came into this game so so so tempted to shoot Gova because of how obv scum he is. But no matter how much I think he is scum, doing so would illogical. Going against the group reduces the chances of winning so much even when you do have a sure read. If you have that much certainty, then you should be able to convince others as well. Shooting on your own would just be illogical when we could get someone scummy to do it.
Now as for the problem of the chosen target shooting against town's will: we absolutely quickshoot them the next day. As I said before, establishing an absolute town authority is necessary for ensuring we win this. SOMEONE (who is chosen as the lynch) GOING AGAINST THE TOWNS WILL AND SHOOTING SOMEONE ELSE WOULD CAUSE MORE DAMAGE THAN ACCEPTING BEING LYNCH. Doing so would not only potentially cause a mislynch seperate from yours, but it would also cause result in your quicklynch the following day. Thus if you are town you would be causing 2 myslynches and a loss of a day. Anyone who would do this is just out right playing against their wincon and a bad mafia player who should be blacklisted. Not even joking. The goal is for town to win. If you are town and the majority set's you as the lynch, your mislynch would be more beneficial to town overall than you shooting someone else which would just hurt town. I hope everyone gets what I'm saying with this. We need to establish it as absolute law that quickshooters WILL be quickshot the next day. It's been the mistake of the past 3 BIMs of assuming that establishing such a rule is more devistation to town. It is not. It eliminates quickshooting as a whole so long as our threats our not empty. Yes it's more likely that a quickshooter is town than godfather, but establishing this rule will stabalize town and provide an effective environment for the vote system. We may still get a ******** stray who feels the need to be rebellious. In that event then oh well they stupid as hell and **** us up. We could still recover though and at least they die.
We need this rule though. If we establish an organized rule, we are putting ourselves in a way better position than the past 3 BIMs. They failed to realize their fault. We can make a difference.
The vote system will work. Kuz will join and Delvro may join
(depending on his alignment). Thus Gova and Ryker will be the only one's not voting. We can simply get their stances indavidually. Same if Kuz and Delvro do not join in.
With the established rule of shooting whoever goes against the majority, we can keep this system stable. Those who do not vote or contribute reason simply are throwing away their influence they have on that majority.
Seph, July, Me, Swords, Luxor, Summoner, bsl, and Clown are all for this, yes? If there are no disagreements, it will be assumbed so, and this will be taken into effect starting asap n_n.
Confirming.
Votes are stupid. Dayklling people on a whim...? Liberating!
Liberating but stupid. Play the game right.
Vote counts are a terrible idea.
Try it for today. There is absolutely no reason not to.
Vote counts are dumb. I'm too lazy to repost the vote list every time I vote and I'd rather just shoot someone dead. Why can't we just say no shots until at most 2 days before deadline?
IMO, mafia love to excessively calculate crap about the setup when it's open. It's easy because all the information is out there and they can talk extensively about it without risk of lying. I did it extensively in TWEWY.
Pretty much all of you are doing it, so all of your are scummy and need to die. Except maybe Sworddancer.
K thanks bye!
Why the exception of Sworddancer?
All it takes it three people for the system to not work.
"But Kuz, then we can just quickshoot the three people who are not cooperating"
Three townie deaths equal an endgame if we're all town. Not saying that me gova and delvro are all town though, just saying the mechanics behind it are thus. Or maybe I am saying they are all town. Yeah, probably that.
Scummies shooting scummies is an amazing strategy. If we know someone is obvtown and he shoots, then we just learn he is more obvtown while finding out the alignment of the other person who died. If a scummy shoots a scummy, we find out both of their alignement more or less (as the shooter either shoots, or claims a pr; or is the scum gf is we are unlucky.)
Anyone else notice swords using the same fake analysis over and over again? And Gova actually phrased in quite nicely (I was suprised). Quickshooting is not scummy, as it gives you like a 8:1 ratio that you're town, but its anti-town in that fact that it messes up games.
Why were you suprised?
oh, right... didnt think it through that much, lol
Did he really change your view that easily??? What specificalky changed your mind frame?
Aww yeeeaahhh, playin mafia with vox again? Woot woot!!
Did he confirm for this game despite his V/LA? or are you letting confirmation stage pass without his b/c of his V/LA?
^lol Vocals scumbuddy.
Zen, are you Mafia Godfather agian?
No, I thought I'd let you give it a try n_n.
Willing to see Luxor/Sworddancer shot.
Will you be the shooter n_n? I really want you to be the shooter. Also you didn't answer me about basketball =D.
