N64
Smash Champion
uair spike -> forward b off the edge on a fox. no jump inbetween. we both died. completely worth it.
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Q&A Ask about Pikachu! Hosted by Axe and N64! feat. dkuo!
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Rainbow
Smash Apprentice
Spyro
Smash Ace
Did you know it's better to go for a full charge skull bash rather than a full charge up smash on a puff that missed a rest?
Rainbow
Smash Apprentice
Yeah, SB does like 28%, so even if she is at 0% it's the best.Did you know it's better to go for a full charge skull bash rather than a full charge up smash on a puff that missed a rest?
Bing
Smash Master
Are the knockbacks the same or does SB knock them further? Just curious because that is vital information for whether you should Usmash or SB
Rainbow
Smash Apprentice
I'm not sure, I know at 0% you SB since it simply does more damage, though I don't know if there is any time the usmash will kill when the SB will not.
Spyro
Smash Ace
I'm pretty sure SB has more knock back but I'm not 100% sure.
EDIT: Just tested and it looks like up smash has more knock back.
EDIT: SB does more damage so if puff is at low % so if you know you can't kill with an up smash go for a SB.
EDIT: Just tested and it looks like up smash has more knock back.
EDIT: SB does more damage so if puff is at low % so if you know you can't kill with an up smash go for a SB.
stelzig
Smash Lord
Don't you think you could pull off a potentially better combo/string with usmash at very low %?
Italis
Smash Rookie
Potentially, but the high knockback owuld let a puff recover and just nair you right? >.>
Bing
Smash Master
Regardless of which has more knockback, its character and percentage specific. In most cases I'd up smash anyways, odds are if sb will ko then so will usmash, if it won't ko, u smash has a hell of a lot more combo potential
stelzig
Smash Lord
Without having tested it, I sincerely doubt that jiggs is so floaty that you can't follow up at all on 0%. Besides, it's not neccesarily about a true combo anyway. With skullbash, I imagine that you'd end up with more lag than puff and would be in a worse relative position to what you would be with usmash. Perhaps it is more guaranteed percent to just sideB, but idk if that means it is simply the best choice.
DerfMidWest
Fresh ******
Favorite pika combo kinda thing (playing against falcon, of course)
nair through shield at the side of the stage, turn around grab -> bhtrow->he tries to upB, so I jab him a bunch-> dtilt-> nair off stage-> double jump straight up and hit downB by accident-> he upB's straight into the bottom of the thunder and it stage spikes him.
sadly, my friend learned to wall tech now and silly things like that don't work anymore
also, Skullbash is a better rest punisher than upsmash (% dependent).
Skullbash will kill puff at around 18-20%, iirc.
Pichu's Skullbash kills puff at like 12%.
Pichu's fully charged skullbash kills puff at like 8% or something ridiculous like that, but its impossible to hit something with Pichu's fully charged sideB because it charges for like forever-ish...
nair through shield at the side of the stage, turn around grab -> bhtrow->he tries to upB, so I jab him a bunch-> dtilt-> nair off stage-> double jump straight up and hit downB by accident-> he upB's straight into the bottom of the thunder and it stage spikes him.
sadly, my friend learned to wall tech now and silly things like that don't work anymore
also, Skullbash is a better rest punisher than upsmash (% dependent).
Skullbash will kill puff at around 18-20%, iirc.
Pichu's Skullbash kills puff at like 12%.
Pichu's fully charged skullbash kills puff at like 8% or something ridiculous like that, but its impossible to hit something with Pichu's fully charged sideB because it charges for like forever-ish...
AXE 09
Smash Master
Skull bash does more damage, but Usmash has more knockback. So I always opt with Skull bash for damage if I know Usmash won't kill.
It's also very difficult to follow up with another move after Usmash at 0%, so I personally like going for Skull Bash instead.
It's also very difficult to follow up with another move after Usmash at 0%, so I personally like going for Skull Bash instead.
Spyro
Smash Ace
Yeah the game is trying to tell you something, don't ignore it.
Shadocat
Smash Ace
why is pikachu's tail the most godly gimp in the entire game? :0
indigestible_wad
Smash Lord
I imagine your opponent didn't know the pikachu matchup as well as the falco one.
Spyro
Smash Ace
But if your opponent knows the matchup you have to actually play and have to be able to win without gimmicks.
yes, but when a top tier has a gimmick no one calls it a gimmick, if fox had anyone of pichus many jank gimmicks, it would be called a fox tactic, not a gimmick, they can work even if yor opponenet knows the matchup, you just have to set them up
Shadocat
Smash Ace
what are some things that i can practice on my own with pika??
Krynxe
I can't pronounce it either
I see. That's how Pikachu players get so good.
DerfMidWest
Fresh ******
ah I see, so its different for Pika.
For Pichu, Skullbash kills faster and does more damage.
I assumed it was the same for Pika, but I guess I was wrong :\
Bing
Smash Master
Yeah generally when Im messing around with Pika I go for Uair OoS, QuickAttack Angles, and setting up gimps and combos
Secret next level kumqu@t inspired tactics
indigestible_wad
Smash Lord
Typically I practice my spacing for things like upb and uair gimps. I also research and practice combos in training mode with the combo counter. What works on who to what percent and so on. I also work on my flow, since pika really needs to understand how to follow up on a lot of things. Understanding how his attacks knock other characters around is really imperative. In terms of combos, understand how DI affects stringing one move into the next. In terms of gimps, understand onstage and offstage options, and realise what works best in what situation. Obviously an offstage uair is the best gimp, but not always an option. Work with your strengths and work on your weaknesses.
Bing
Smash Master
I was gunna go to Zenith, but then I decided to have my b-day party instead....
Spyro
Smash Ace
I'm really bad at critiques dkuo; I would proably be no help
Bing
Smash Master
Oh I didnt even notice that, I'll do it later or on my lunch, probably later 
You must have a birthday party at zenith. You get to play everyone in marth vs bowser MMs as presents
Spyro
Smash Ace
But what if DJNintendo plays him in that MM? Lol
Bing
Smash Master
pfft I aint scared of no DJ Nintendo!