Don't question it man. Just go with it.
Post me a RECENT vid of your Marth. k thanks.
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Post me a RECENT vid of your Marth. k thanks.
∫unk
Smash Master
Here is a question that has probably been done to death, but here goes. I'm learning how to spike and I can't hit with it constantly yet, should spiking be something that a Marth fully implements into their playstyle, or should it be used as just something to throw in to throw your opponent off. Conversely, can a competitive Marth live without the spike?
Freezewish
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Best. Vid. Ever.
Remzi
formerly VaBengal
I think I'm pretty decent >_>
And i'm not wi-fi only, I'm wi-fi and local tourney only ; _ ;
and steel everyone knows viets good, except for him.
I supppose so, but it's a lot easier than some of the things you'll have to be doing to be a competitive Marth anyways so you'll probably end up getting good at it as you go along.
I've never been given the opportunity to work on it against a human player, so I suppose it will take longer. When you mention things you have to do to be a competitive Marth, what are you referring to?
Oh, and nice vid Junk.
Oh, and nice vid Junk.
phi1ny3
Not the Mama
lol, does this mean that Marth is left brained? Because based on studies, that would mean that there is a lack of fine motor coordination (which would explain why I trip into the crap that I do which loses my precious stocks).A tutorial video would be ok for beginners, but Marth isn't per se one of those "omg, gotta go OCD on every possible gimmick/trick, and I have to see the matchup on paper to win!", I see his game as a lot more experimental and seen better if you try it out for yourself.Also, the Haruhi stuff is overgrown here. I can't get anywhere without running into it. I gotta bring a machete from now on to navigate throug these forums, lol.Haruhi's still good tho.
Remzi
formerly VaBengal
Nothing too technical, bascially mastering spacing and getting good at making smart decisions and all that.
AndrewCarlson
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Just wondering. Is D-air ever a good choice for off-stage gimps, or is it best to play it safe by using F-airs or N-airs?
So that's why I will never be technical
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Fairs and Nairs are generally better.
Sorta depends on the character too but the ease of hitting with fair and nair make them a superior choice over dair anyway.
Pr0phetic
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If your going for gimps use Fair or Bair. Nair works good for large charactes like D3 because they will almost be guaranteed to get hit by the second hit of Nair.
Dair is for spiking.
Dair is for spiking.
AndrewCarlson
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Thanks for the replies. So is spiking an option that is rarely ever used by professional Marths? Assuming that you've got a good handle of the spacing required for the spike, it seems that D-air can be used for some very early KOs.
Pierce7d
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dair is for more than spiking, but that's for a level of play MUCH beyond what you should practice now.
Also, it is not necessary to have Dair in your moveset right now.
I spike every chance, but it's not necessary.
Also, it is not necessary to have Dair in your moveset right now.
I spike every chance, but it's not necessary.
Remzi
formerly VaBengal
It's situational to say the least. There are times when the best option is to go for the spike. Often off a ledge hop when someones recovering low. Also if you're down by a lot it's an ok desperation tactic i guess, lol.
Pierce7d
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Eh, I fair when it's easier to land, but if I have the opportunity to kill my opponent at low percent, I take advantage, lol.
AndrewCarlson
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Just out of curiosity, what is D-air useful for besides spiking? It seems the incredible lag afterwards deter most players from utilizing it on-stage.
Pierce7d
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A few things. If you're interested in implementing it, I guess I'd start with using Full Hop Dair OOS. Untippered, does approx. 12. Tippered, it does 14. If you drift away from your opponent, it will be hard for them to punish, even if you hit shield.
Pr0phetic
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I use what pierce said as a mixup sometimes, but I neglect it since im used to no Dair on stage.
phi1ny3
Not the Mama
I frankly prefer Nair for jumping oos, but that's because of the circumstances I find myself in.
BacklashMarth
Smash Lord
Do you mean ff nair or just regular nair? Does it hit like that out of shield at all? I would assume that nair would miss some shorter characters heads.
phi1ny3
Not the Mama
ff nair, since it auto cancels near the ground (if I recall).
¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯
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Yeah, Nair auto cancels.
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Pierce all your posts start with "eh"
You got predicted son.
This is Junk
You got predicted son.
This is Junk
Darxmarth23
Smash Champion
Can d-tilt combo into anything at all?
feardragon64
Smash Champion
Pr0phetic
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Combo, no. However it has IASA frames, which can interrupt the move an lt you do another, such as DB or another DTilt.
BanjoKazooiePro
Smash Champion
Just out of curiosity, how do you air release characters with Marth? I've never really known how, just wondering now since I'm aware that you can tipper an Fair following it.
Pr0phetic
Dodge the bullets!
Your pummel them, its depending on how the character escapes or the user of the character escapes the grab.
3xSwords
Smash Lord
And 3xS returns to take over the Q&A thread. *epic music*
... no not really -_-
... no not really -_-
Anyway. At 0% on most characters, untipper dtilt combos into jab, DS and DB. At higher %'s untipper dtilt can combo into another dtilt, d-smash, maybe f-smash and ftilt. After that nothing.
Rukkiko you are being confusing. To have a guarantee air release the character you are grabbing must be short enough so that their feet are off the ground when you grab them. As long as you don't pummel hit them the moment the release they will always air release. The other way is when you opponent inputs a jump command while they try to struggle out of the grab and as long as you didn't pummel them the moment they would have released from your grab they will air release.
Pr0phetic
Dodge the bullets!
This is way better put, gah. Can i call time johns?3xSwords said:
BanjoKazooiePro
Smash Champion
Ahh, I had no idea about the character height. I just knew you couldn't hit them while they're grabbed to do it. Thanks for that. :3
Darxmarth23
Smash Champion
Thank you all for your help. I really appreciate it.
Hey just out of total curiosity, do you guys still want MK banned?
Hey just out of total curiosity, do you guys still want MK banned?
Pr0phetic
Dodge the bullets!
I personally don't mind anymore. Its way too soon to call that on MK
Conclusively
Smash Journeyman
Asked this in Bowser forums too.
Start watching at 6:52. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7IZSNqfZNI
What happens to Bowser's shield following the Shieldbreaker? Is this something with Marth's Up Smash or just Bowser's shield?
Start watching at 6:52. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7IZSNqfZNI
What happens to Bowser's shield following the Shieldbreaker? Is this something with Marth's Up Smash or just Bowser's shield?
Darxmarth23
Smash Champion
True.
The falcon boards want me to start a revolution...we won't get anywhere though....
Pr0phetic
Dodge the bullets!
Ah I misread, you said following the shieldbreaker. Then what Pierce said was right, i think the hitbox at the feet shieldstabbed but the The hitbox of the sword connected with the shield, negating the effects.
Pierce7d
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I already looked into that, and figured out what happened. In a nutshell, the Usmash has two "related hitboxes." The foot hitbox shieldstabbed, but SINCE the sword hitbox connected with Bowser's shield, it did no damage, as the attack was considered shielded.
Punishment Divine
Smash Champion
why dont we have a xat chat yet?
Pr0phetic
Dodge the bullets!
because we're too busy discussing everything in our threads.