Are there tourney players that DON'T use C-stick?

[Young Kai]

Outta curiosity. I'm still learning stuff in Melee so I don't know if a specific technique or whatnot depends on C-stick.

 

[Hostility]

Nothing depends on it, isai didn't use Cstick at all. Most players just find it more comfortable to use. Just do whatever feels right.

 

[HawaiianJigglyPuff]

Ariels like down air and back air are a lot easier to use with the c-stick for certain situations. (not fast falling your down air without c-stick is more difficult. So is ledghopping back on stage with a bair.

 

[Tamoo]

the second best over here in the UK doesnt use it

you just basically have to weigh up the advantages for yourself between using the cstick and not using it nd see which suits you best

 

[slartibartfast42]

The C-stick isn't absolutely necessary for every situation, but it is better than the control stick in almost every situation. I've actually written up an explanation on the advantages of using the C-stick in another thread, so I'll just quote myself here:

Let's go over the advantages of the C-stick:

Smashing: If you use side A to smash, you will ALWAYS have a few frames of charge lag on startup. The C stick will always make you attack faster. The C stick also makes it faster and much easier to smash out of a wavedash or walk.

Aerials: When you move the control stick in the air, it makes your character move in that direction a bit (DI). If you use the control stick + A to do an aerial, you will have to also DI in that direction. If you use the C stick, you can be DIing in any direction when performing the aerial, even the opposite direction which is very useful in some situations. Using the C-stick also makes it very easy to do uairs without using your second jump, and dairs without fast falling.

Rolling and Spot Dodging: You know how you can move your shield around when you move the control stick slightly? Well, if you roll away from your opponent or spot dodge with the control stick, you will move your shield off of your body just before the roll or dodge leaving you unnecessarily exposed for a moment. The C-stick can be used for rolling and spot dodging, and is much better as it does not move your shield so you have less of a chance of being hit.

Another one I've noticed since writing this is that you can use the C-stick to drop from the edge without fast falling or DI-ing away from the stage, so you can ledgehop farther in and also drop into a wall-jump faster.

So, pretty much, if you can use the C-stick for something, you probably should be.

 

[hubble]

Everything is possible except for one or two things really.

DIing aerials in goofy ways, and buffering/frame perfect rolls are easier with c stick.

Do what you want.

 

[teeman92]

i dont use it in most ocassion, but if i keep missing attacks i WILL c-stick

 

[CableCho57]

wait isai didnt use the c-stick? wth... he was still hella fast.. well i think you should use the c-stick because to shuffle you must use the analog stick to to fast ergo making your shffl faster

 

[SOLAR]

All decent smash players use the C stick. There is no reason not to. When I was new I never used the c stick, but the instant I started short hop fastfalling my downairs I had to. Just get used to doing it, it provides a lot of advantages, and there's no reason not to.

 

[Knossos]

^ I don't c-stick and I consider myself "decent".
Spamming c-stick doesn't make you good.

 

[metashinryu]

yeah,but its ok if you use it only for aerials/dodging,i use it for all my aerials except neutral airs(that with A most times,but i use z on special situations) and smashing under pressure,just to not epic-fail a smash and do a dash attack or something like that

 

[Lovage]

it's all preference. i know several players that don't use c-stick (all of them were formerly ssb64 players) and they are pretty good. it doesn't really make any difference. except c-stick smashers are a minimum of 1 frame faster than if you use the a button

 

[ZoSo]

Mango doesn't use the C-stick, last I checked.

Do whatever's comfortable for you.

 

[Phoenix~Lament]

Mango doesn't use the C-stick, last I checked.

Do whatever's comfortable for you.

How the hell can a jiggly aerial weave without using the C-stick..

._.

 

[rason110290]

How the hell can a jiggly aerial weave without using the C-stick..

._.

Just Flick the control stick while hitting A for the aerial you want. Then just Move the control stick where you want to right after doing so. But for retreating Aerials, its a must to Cstick

 

[Stratford]

Mango doesn't use the C-stick, last I checked.

Do whatever's comfortable for you.

Holy **** is this true?

 

[MaNg0]

uhhhh for all of my charactets i dont


cept for my puff u air

thats it


and smashes like once in a while

How the hell can a jiggly aerial weave without using the C-stick..

._.

cause im amazing

only use it for the u air

 

[victra♥]

I think I heard somewhere that Isai doesn't use c-stick. That, and any marth players who can't space very well. :/

 

[unknown522]

How the hell can a jiggly aerial weave without using the C-stick..

._.

because it's jigglypuff.

anyways, c-stick is always better. I had to re-learn everything with the c-stick after 2 years of competitive play. Lol, mario and fox.

 

[Untrust Us]

i use c stick occasionally

 

[joeplicate]

All decent smash players use the C stick. There is no reason not to. When I was new I never used the c stick, but the instant I started short hop fastfalling my downairs I had to. Just get used to doing it, it provides a lot of advantages, and there's no reason not to.

a pretty decent amount of players don't use c-stick
phil (from norcal) doesn't use cstick, but he's still way faster than me and whoops on me whenever we play


it's pretty useful for different situations, though
in general, just do whatever you think it works best for

 

[Havokbringer]

Yeah this Joeplicate is right :D.

Its really whatever is more efficient and comfortable for you.

 

[Rappster]

often after i play single player mode, i don't use the cstick for a match or too, but that has a noticibly detrimental effect on my gameply

 

[lordvaati]

I myself am a rookie, but I'm so adapted to doing A combinations that I preety much will neve useth C stick.

 

[adhdfoy]

I don't understand how some people use z for nair. That drives me insane. -_-

 

[gROYn]

I don't understand how some people use z for nair. That drives me insane. -_-

I do when I miss jump cancels with Fox and pretend it's all part of the bigger plan.

 

[Vsin]

I guess all threads like these can be summarized with the response:

"If you can do it, it works."

 

[Pi]

Just keep in mind that the C-stick is NOT a BAD thing.
Nobody will look down on you for not using it. It's expected
People who don't use it are usually 64 vets who have gotten use to playing without it
Or people who have been mislead into think it was bad.

 

[AXE 09]

i used to not use the c-stick at all, and back then, i still considered myself "decent" too. i think that there are pro players who don't use C-stick. what about all that crazy stuff you see people do in 1 player mode where they can't use the C-stick?

i use the C-stick sometimes now for ariels and if i wanna crouch cancel a smash, but i used to be just fine without it. i think it's just a preference kind of thing

 

[Taj278]

I don't use the C-stick, but I'm not pro.

 

[2.72]

I don't use the C-stick, but I'm not pro.

You're such a liar, Taj.

I heard that you use tap jump, too. Is that true?

 

[Dr Peepee]

I don't use the C-stick and I get along well enough.

 

[Taj278]

You're such a liar, Taj.

I heard that you use tap jump, too. Is that true?

That is not true. I use X exclusively.

 

[soap]

c stick with tap jump is a good combo to use

 

[FastFox]

I don't use the c-stick whatsoever, and my spacing is fine.

 

[Archangel]

c stick with tap jump is a good combo to use

I agree. I started using the C stick and playing the game overall has become much easier for me.

 

[joeplicate]

i love using tap jump

except I always break in my controllers so I can't do it anymore with fox
so I learned how to do everything with the buttons

 

[Archangel]

i love using tap jump

except I always break in my controllers so I can't do it anymore with fox
so I learned how to do everything with the buttons

I use tap jumps with fox and falco but it's not necessary IMO.

 

[TheZhuKeeper]

I use Z for half my aerials!

And I'm trying to not use c stick, simply cause Mango doesn't.

 

[pockyD]

zhutral air