Active Player Thread: Ones who does not have Triforce can't go in

[<π]

you listed dtilit (which can also be a strong option at times) but not jab

jab is faster and harder to punish than ftilt if they are deep inside your tilt range. and can be used OOS four frames slower than shield grab but with a little extra range.
to put that into perspective its comparable to nair OOS in terms of speed and range.

At those higher percents jab becomes much more rewarding than ftilt. you can jab into dsmash on reaction but without the huge risk of the dsmash being shielded or whiffed, or opt for a dash grab tilt or even nair at those higher percents when dsmash won't work connect because of DI.

Ftilt is definitely a better option between 30-70/80 range if both are guaranteed.

TLDR:
It has its moments too.

 

[Zankoku]

Okay, I admit that shield-jab has its uses, and I'll probably add that if I ever compile everything into a final guide, but when I listed dtilt and ftilt I wrote them in as attacks that are done without shielding.

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

Just wondering, but can you jab/f-tilt/utilt/anything out of crouch without any added lag?

 

[Dnyce]

jab is faster and harder to punish than ftilt if they are deep inside your tilt range. and can be used OOS four frames slower than shield grab but with a little extra range.
to put that into perspective its comparable to nair OOS in terms of speed and range.

Nair comes out one frame later than grab OoS and Jab is 3 frames slower, not 4.

//goes back to working ^^;

 

[<π]

well... you get my point I'm sure >: (

 

[-Mars-]

Jab>Jab>Nair works a lot for killing from my experiences. Running around throwing out usmashes is probably one of the worst things you can do.

 

[saviorslegacy]

Sheik board is dead! Yaaaaaaaaaaaah.......

 

[#HBC | Scary]

So what else is new lol.

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

The sky is blue

 

[stealth3654]

*poke poke* *twitch twitch* The Sheik boards still have a little bit of life xD

 

[iLight]

i recorded some of my friendlies at super bit wars in oklahoma hopefully they get uploaded =/

 

[sheikamaru]

i am now the best sheik in tx since light is retiring!!!

:D

 

[iLight]

technically i'm still better than you and still in tx <3

 

[sheikamaru]

retire already!!

 

[sheikamaru]

it must be so lonely up there!!

 

[Zankoku]

I'm pretty sure that if you're worse than a retired player then the goal is to be better than your predecessor, not just be okay with defaulting to first place of a meaningless title (lol best Sheik in a state).

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

I'm pretty sure that if you're worse than a retired player then the goal is to be better than your predecessor, not just be okay with defaulting to first place of a meaningless title (lol best Sheik in a state).

I'm the best Sheik in Michigan

 

[sheikamaru]

I'm pretty sure that if you're worse than a retired player then the goal is to be better than your predecessor, not just be okay with defaulting to first place of a meaningless title (lol best Sheik in a state).

my mission, has now been adjusted and set.


onwards to glory.

 

[<π]

Every sheik's mission should be to be the best period.

 

[stealth3654]

I want to be the very best
Like no one ever was

 

[Juushichi]

I'm the best Sheik in Ohio. Whoo.

Next stop best Sheik in the Midwest. After that, best Sheik in the country.

Honestly though, I want to become a high/top level player before I move to another game.

 

[choknater]

i'm the best sheik in my house

 

[#HBC | Scary]

I'm ok at this game.

Next stop, trying to make Apex and turn some heads.

 

[stealth3654]

Ed! you better be at Apex >:O

 

[sheikamaru]

Ed.. make sheik move up on the tier list already... I know you can do it lol

 

[#HBC | Scary]

^I'm honored you think I can do that. Doing my best but I'm no San or Reflex. Either we all going or none of us at all!

Billy! I'm doing my best! DRN's been telling me about that revitalized Sheik! Hope I can see it at Apex or even before then.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

I want to be the very best
Like no one ever was

To ftilt lock them is my test,

To gimp them is my cause!

 

[stealth3654]

Ed, if you can make it to Apex, want to team?

 

[#HBC | Scary]

If my normal partner doesn't go, definitely!

 

[<π]

sheik zelda and double zelda is legit.

 

[sheikamaru]

If only they knew...

 

[stealth3654]

Team up smash

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

So I chain jacketed chain yesterday, I thought that was funny.

Double Sheik is a good team if there's no MK on the other team.

 

[<π]

Double sheik is always rough cuz you don't have any strong aerial kill moves or grounded kill moves that warrant the duration in relation to sheik's weight.

In my experience MK isn't really a big issue because you shouldn't be leaving your self vulnerable to dair dsmash and stuff, shouldn't every really be getting hit off stage as sheik in teams much. I ussually stock tank even with characters that have better surviveability on my team because I have much more mobility.

I think of sheik as a very strong support and damage builder. she does have very many "safe" kill options for team play.

Zelda's air kill game is crazy. uair fair bair. it goes without saying.
And while usmash and fsmash have huge durations they are very strong and at the very least lead to team follow ups.

I think double zelda works well because of Dins fire.

 

[-Mars-]

Double Sheik is a terrible team. Sheik in teams in general is not a good idea.

harder to avoid broken KO moves, hard to KO, less gimping opportunities, your light, your recovery sucks, can't help your partner much offstage etc.

If you say anything otherwise it's pretty much blind character loyalty.

I mean I still do it for the most part, unless I actually have a chance of making money in doubles......but you gotta be amazing to make her work in teams.

 

[<π]

I've had great success with sheik in teams.

I mean yeah she has those glaring weaknesses, but she has one of the best projectiles in the game. very fast and very high damage. And that mobility is huge as well.

I've needle saved more people than I can count.

sheik's recovery isn't bad... it really really isn't. And it is better in teams.

you don't kill well granted, but because of that mobility you can set up for kills and (more importantly IMO) prevent them. There are heavy hitters that just don't bring that utility to teams matches.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

imo Zelda's better in teams than Sheik.

Sheik's not Ice Climbers bad though.

 

[Zankoku]

I don't remember "best projectile" being very useful in doubles, considering how comparatively weak Falco is in doubles.

 

[<π]

it's helped me lots...
IDK.

You don't need kill power to be a viable teams partner.

 

[#HBC | Scary]

I think Sheik is awesome in teams! You just have to make sure you have the right partner and are playing the right role in teams.

Must I post the vid of me and Polt beating up on Nick Riddle and Shaky again (even though they came back and beat us )? She can do the teams thing!