If you want to know what actually happened, the BBR did a Metaknight ban vote 3 times. All 3, I was the forerunner of the anti-ban side, and I'm quite proud of my 3 victories. However, I did add in some reasonable concessions to my side:
1. If the community decisively wants MK banned, he should be banned. To deny an obvious desire is simple self-sabotage.
2. A MK ban was inevitable, since double jeopardy is allowed. That is, so long as a ban vote can resurface every 6 months, it was only a matter of time.
3. At the time, the polls were nearly 50/50. Opinions and information change over time, and it was obviously prone to fluctuations.
Put the yellow language aside if you want others to take you seriously. No one is on opposing sides in this community, we're simply on opposing stances but ultimately want the same things. Respect your peers and address them sincerely if you want them to agree with you.
Best post in the thread. <3 Mow
Aren't tournaments that aren't nationals posted in regional zones?
Come on bro. You're an admin, and one whose reputation is at stake here. You can't just go throwing out ignorant statements like this.
Metaknights win nationals? really? I thought it was just m2knight that wins nationals, which makes sense SINCE I'VE TRAVELED TO ALMOST EVERY NATIONAL (and ALWAYS done REALLY well). That is OBVIOUSLY very likely to happen. I'm sure if Mango were to play Brawl he would be dominating this game too but he doesn't enjoy it. The skill that can be carried over from melee is tremendous. I honestly think that helps a lot, but I was the only melee pro to transition over to this game besides Chu/Azen, who used bad characters and Azen played only for like a year (but he was TOP 3 when he played, which proves my point).
Anyway, if you take away all the nationals I've won, the only 2 nationals won by other MKs any time lately --AT ALL-- is Ally's MK (and other chars) at Whobo3 and Ktar, and he would win with snake or various other characters regardless since his skill level is so far above most everybody. In fact, at Ktar4, where even Nairo and Anti were present (2nd/4th best MKs probably/possibly), ADHD and Gnes would have taken the top 2 spots if I wasn't there. Maybe Diddy is broken? (and I consider Anti to be the 3rd best player probably). We should ban diddy for having more diddy players win MLGs than mk players won them. You can use any logic as long as it supports your argument's goal. You're overrating this character by a lot. A -LOT-. People vote to ban him because most people don't use or main MK and would benefit from him gone. That's why using the majority rule, while it's not likely to be argued by the MAJORITY of people, is a VERY FLAWED way to go about it. By pure numbers, most people are going to vote to make it easier.
"Should we ban the best character, which beats your favorite character?" Well what the **** do you expect people to say?
(as far as Fox goes, yeah I think he's overrated. melee and brawl aren't comparable games. But Brawlers seem to think they are, since they base their TIMER off of Melee's timer, even though matches last TWICE as long). Bbl at college still
This was arguably the best post you ever made in your life.
Ah, my mistake. -___ -;
I guess that would call for a:
Also, and this is at everyone else, so people have a point of reference to work off of, when all 2011 NA tournaments are taken into account, MK is winning 45.91% of all tournament money, and when all 2011 NA regionals and nationals are taken into account, MK takes a defiant rise to 59.05% of the tournament money.
I never took data for nationals only, but I'm pretty sure it won't ultimately vary that much.
I actually wanted the quote captured in your post, because the main reason I quoted this to say that it is quite obvious M2k is still an outlier at a national level.
AlphaZealot, I didn't quote anything, but instead of dodging questions, and nitpicking stuff, and then making fantastic points, only reply when you're going to make a fantastic point. You had some awesome stuff to say in this thread, but before you said anything awesome, you put your foot in your mouth like three times.
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Now I'll share my own opinions about this.
I honestly do not care if a tournament is hosting Unity or not, and I don't care if MK gets banned or not. BUT there is something that has been sitting rather uncomfortably with me, and I've remained silent, because I supported the Unity Ruleset and I supported AlphaZealot and JV, so I did not wish to share an opinion which might oppose them and their parties. With this much of a scar to the community though, and with how poorly things were handled, I feel like I should say a few words though. I'm not going to point any blame, make any accusations, or say that anyone is harming the community, because I honestly believe that the vast majority of the higher powers involved here DO INDEED have the community's best interest at heart, which is why I have not interfered. But listen to this:
-The idea for the Unity Ruleset was generated by AlphaZealot during MLG season. He pitched the idea to JV. At the time, it was under a different name, but I will continue to call it Unity Ruleset to avoid confusion
-JV, the Global Moderator and ultimate power of SWF at that time supported the idea, and said that Smashboards would only sticky Unity Tournaments. The idea behind this was to provide incentive for people to use the Ruleset. The purpose of this was to have a community standard, to end ruleset strife once and for all, and to add legitimacy to the Community.
-Several meetings were held between Senators and AiB leader Nealdt, and the Unity Ruleset Committee came to life.
-At the time of it's origin, the Unity Ruleset Committee was still under the cover of the Brawl Backroom. Despite this, Brawl Backroom members that were not part of the committee had absolutely no influence on the Ruleset.
-Brawl Backroom members were threatened to silence on any opposition they may have had in the public. Brawl Backroom members were told that their membership to the backroom would be revoked if they publicly spoke out against the ruleset.
-Afterwards, when the ruleset had already used the cover of the BBR (and many of the members had serious disagreement with this) to gain a foothold of favor, the Unity Ruleset Committee finally split from the BBR.
~In summary, the idea of the Unity Ruleset was founded and implemented by several of the higher ups in Smashboards, then used the BBR as a launching pad, before finally gaining enough sway and sitting on top of global Smashboards power to generate further influence.
Now, I'm all for doing things that are pro-community, but I greatly dislike that the higher ups have blatantly ignored the serious outcry from the community here.
-DEAR PEOPLE WHO RUN SMASHBOARDS
Take the sticky rule that says you must run Unity to get stickied out of your rules. While the initial intent behind it was good, it is very obviously causing a rift. It is not what the community wants, and the community has a right to decide for itself. Sure, it may be true that the community has a greater chance for superior longevity with a Unified Ruleset, but it is the choice of the community to decide for themselves. Stop trying to shove it down their throats.
By favoring this particular body, you are indeed trying to push the community in a specific direction. It would be one thing if that's the way Smashboards always was, but I forsaw these types of problems from the day MLG bought Smashboards. No longer is the head of our forum one of us. We are now control by a corporate entity. Now, a tool that was previously available to anyone for use to promote tournaments is being used to fulfill a greater agenda. The community is mad.
To me, I don't think that a sticky is such a big deal. But I want the URC to succeed. At this rate, their best way to succeed is to listen to the community on this issue.
As several members of the URC have already stated, most tournaments that would be stickied already run URC. So it would be excellent press coverage not to appear overbearing, by forcing it to be this way. Cooperating with the community in this compromise, will greatly increase the chances that the community cooperates with you.
Just my .02
