Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

[ShadowGuy1]

Well joke's on him then. Fox is just as good, if not better than Diddy.

And oof, all those good players removed from the running for Bootcamp already. That event's meme status continues to inflate.

All of the players still in are good. Yeah we lost better players for the most part than some still in, but people in are still great players and this even will allow them to become even better. And it’s not really memey(bar the prices) I think so yeah...

 

[Wintermelon43]

The reason why they got eliminated was, as people said, they didn't campaign enough to get people to vote for them.

I thought people would be voted in based on popularity and stuff based on how twitch chat is like, but considering that if Xzax makes it in (which he probably will since he's in 1st place right now) then that's 3 Foxes in this tournament, 4 if Dekillsage makes it (and he isn't in the elimination zone), Ally, Fatality, Samsora, and WaDi are already eliminated, Abadango (Who uses Bayonetta, the most hated character) is still in as well as MVD, etc. So clearly that isn't how it's going. It's more like how much people campaign and regional-based stuff. I suppose that's probably how Smash Summit is like too, but I'm not familar with it, and it's possible players like Ally didn't realize they needed to campaign a lot to get in either.

kirby isn't top tier?
this is ********

Yeah, the only character better is Jigglypuff.

 

[Deleted member]

Is Hungrybox still playing Smash 4? Props to Hungrybox for still choosing to main Jigglypuff despite being one of the worst characters in Smash 4, that's real love for Jigglypuff. I hope in the next patch or the next game, Jigglypuff gets a great buff.
Buff The Puff club: http://buffpuff.club/

 

[|RK|]

So, rolling things back a bit. Why do Marth and Lucina lose so hard to Sonic while Ike evidently does so well?

 

[Envoy of Chaos]

Well joke's on him then. Fox is just as good, if not better than Diddy.

And oof, all those good players removed from the running for Bootcamp already. That event's meme status continues to inflate.

This is how these events work you campaign for support from your region and the results speak for themselves it's not like the people in aren't top level players. I don't see how this is "memey"

 

[Wintermelon43]

The only one in this top 16 that isn't an amazing top level player with tons of good results at nationals is Peabnut, and honestly I've barely even heard of him outside of the fact that he's one of the few really good Mega Man players in the world and I've never heard of him being at a national, so for all I know he might an amazing player too.

I don't see how the tournament is a meme.

 

[Skeeter Mania]

The only one in this top 16 that isn't an amazing top level player with tons of good results at nationals is Peabnut, and honestly I've barely even heard of him outside of the fact that he's one of the few really good Mega Man players in the world and I've never heard of him being at a national, so for all I know he might an amazing player too.

I don't see how the tournament is a meme.

Peanut did do notably well at Dreamhack Atlanta, placing 13th with wins on players like falln and HyperKirby.

He also did pretty well at Smash Con placing 33rd with a win on NAKAT.

 

[FamilyTeam]

So, rolling things back a bit. Why do Marth and Lucina lose so hard to Sonic while Ike evidently does so well?

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't "Ike doing well against Sonic" outdated? I thought it was at least even today.

Anyway, like I said, it's hard for Marcina to do what I like to call the "Marcina things" against Sonic. Marcina wins when they're able to control stage and limit their opponent's options after they mentally pressured and exhausted them into constantly making wrong decisions they're prepared to deal with. This is how a Marth lands his Jab confirms and how it feels like Lucinas are always FSmashing people at just the right opportunities, for example.
However, Sonic is able to control stage really well (doing Walk pressure on somebody as fast as him is really hard), he's so fast he can get around your spacing pretty easily and his speed makes it hard for you to land solid moves on him, alongside his weird weight/fall speed properties making him weird to combo and kill with Kill Confirms. If we want to further bring Jab 1 closer to reality, this is another thing you need to know about it: It's less reliable than it looks. It's actually pretty finnicky when it wants to be. If you hit anybody in a way it doesn't like, it's hard for you to get the followup you wanted the way you wanted (that's why sometimes you see Mr. E and Leo having to go for Jab>FTilt multiple times before they finally tipper it, which is a detail I bet most people either don't notice or conveniently forget about). Hitting people that are airbone, DI strangely or if the game just feels like messing with you you might also not hit your followup.
Marcina having Smash Attack tier endlag on most of their moves and Sonic being so fast equals if you whiff anything from anywhere on stage he can close the gap and punish you. Whiffing with Marcina is always bad but whiffing here especially means you will lose any stage control you had, which is extremely detrimental. Marcina also tends to fall for a lot of Sonic stuff and while you can say they edgeguard him well (not entirely true, the good Sonics are very creative when coming back to the ledge), Sonic also edgeguards them very well.
If you are a stock down against him, it's basically death. You can't force him to approach anymore and you're forced to approach him, and having to take initiative yourself to approach is very much not something Marcina is good at. He runs away with the lead hard if he gets it. Playing this MU is almost an exercise in frustration.
Mr. E truly did his absolute best in the MU against KEN and Komo, but it can really be that hard.

 

[ARGHETH]

So, rolling things back a bit. Why do Marth and Lucina lose so hard to Sonic while Ike evidently does so well?

There hasn't really been a high level Ike v Sonic set in a while, so I'm not sure Ike does that well either. Swordies in general don't, unless you're Cloud (or Corrin, apparently).

Additional note: Xzax and Peabnut were invited to Boot Camp, while K9, ESAM, Nicko, and Abadango were eliminated. Cosmos, MVD, Captain L, and dekillsage are left.

Congrats @Peabnut Bubber

 

[TDK]

There hasn't really been a high level Ike v Sonic set in a while, so I'm not sure Ike does that well either. Swordies in general don't, unless you're Cloud (or Corrin, apparently).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjb22KtX67g&t=380s
Also, what you guys (and evidently, the top players that have been knocked out) don't understand is that summit style voting is a popularity contest first and foremost. You have to make people want to vote for you, not assume you'll get in off skill.

 

[The-Technique]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjb22KtX67g&t=380s
Also, what you guys (and evidently, the top players that have been knocked out) don't understand is that summit style voting is a popularity contest first and foremost. You have to make people want to vote for you, not assume you'll get in off skill.

surprised we didnt have anyone eat a bowl of onions

and with regards to that set, SGK admitted in the comments that she didn't know what to do, she probably didnt have much Ike experience going into this set

id kill to have some more up-to-date data for these matchups

 

[|RK|]

surprised we didnt have anyone eat a bowl of onions

and with regards to that set, SGK admitted in the comments that she didn't know what to do, she probably didnt have much Ike experience going into this set

id kill to have some more up-to-date data for these matchups

I think that's still a useful point - what is it that I'm does that Marth and Lucina don't? It's not navigating around a discount.

More importantly, even when I'm was more common, Sonic was thought to be one of his better MUs and one of Marcina's worst.

 

[Deleted member]

I feel like Sonic would win against Ike easily in my opinion.

 

[Rizen]

I think that's still a useful point - what is it that I'm does that Marth and Lucina don't? It's not navigating around a discount.

More importantly, even when I'm was more common, Sonic was thought to be one of his better MUs and one of Marcina's worst.

I don't play either character but from what I've seen of Ike: His jab is very low commitment and great at controlling space. Sonic likes to wait outside a character's range and rush in to punish but Ike's jab is frame 4, steps forward up to 3 times and actually has good range each time. IIRC he can cancel it to start combos (?). He also has grab combos so shielding is dangerous. He can play footsies with DA and pivot Ftilt to control spacing. Bair kills and outreaches anything sonic has. I think Nair starts combos (?). It can be hard for Sonic to breach his wall and mistakes are costly.

An Ike main should help fill things in but Ike's kit works really well against Sonic.

 

[ArnoldPalmer]

Ike gets a grab and sonic is going to eat around 50%
Dash attack is a burst kill option at around 100 that can be used to punish bad spindashes
Nair has a large, long lasting hitbox with low landing lag and can be used to deny ground based approaches
If sonic ends up offstage he can die around 80 to eruption
Ike lives forever and hes monster with rage

This is just from personal experience, if any sonic mains want to help me out here that would be amazing

EDIT: I've been wondering for a while now, who has the second best disadvantage? Personally I think it's between pika, mk, sheik, and zss but I could be missing someone

 

[Minordeth]

Ike/Sonic is always going to be one of those cases of tools interacting rather than tiers interacting. A few things have been mentioned already, but I’ll add a few more:

- Sonic has a really good pivot grab which synergizes well with his speed. Unfortunately, in practice it’s difficult to cross up Ike since Nair is active for a while and goes behind him. In addition, he can always adjust the timing to gain mixups to discourage the Sonic from attempting to cross him up.

- Ike’s pivot grab, pivot ftilt, and pivot dtilt are really good for catching Sonic’s approaches specifically.

- Outside of the Sonic getting a gimp or read, Ike is living a while, which only helps him net kills.

I don’t think we will be seeing too much Ike versus Sonic, especially since Ike is pretty niche and doesn’t have the most rep. But if you are a Sonic, just based off of the MU history, it would be wise to not just assume your tools can just carry you through the match. If Sonic’s tools straight up overwhelmed Ike’s, then SGK wouldn’t have been bopped, as MU inexperience wouldn’t have mattered as much.

 

[FeelMeUp]

would take this free if his landing aerials had more range or if QA had a decent amount of invincibility or intangibility.
and have the same issue of every damaging and killing combo working to great effects on them. Both with and without rage.
If your character has an early death setup I can almost guarantee they both get caught.
Landing for Sheik is a lot more trivial than it is for ZSS, but getting off ledge is a lot easier for ZSS than it is Sheik.
Sheik's recovery is better, ZSS escapes strings better, Sheik gets true combo'd slightly less hard, etc.
I'd say Sheik's disadv. is slightly better in most relevant matchups not named Rosa.

 

[Skeeter Mania]

would take this free if his landing aerials had more range or if QA had a decent amount of invincibility or intangibility.

Surely having among the highest average landing lag would also play a role, would it not?

Plus for Quick Attack, would the hurt box extension also play a role? More than what you're suggesting?

 

[ARGHETH]

Surely having among the highest average landing lag would also play a role, would it not?

Pikachu might have the highest average landing lag, but Fair only has 15 frames of endlag. Combine this with his hurtbox when doing landing aerials, and landing lag isn't as much a problem.

 

[Wintermelon43]

So the players going to Smash Boot Camp are:

• ZeRo ()
• Nairo ()
• Dabuz ()
• Salem ()
• MKLeo ()
• Larry Lurr ()
• Void ()
• Tweek ()
• Marrss ()
• Elegant ()
• Mr. R ()
• Light ()
• Peabnut () !!!
• Xzax ()
• MVD ()
• Cosmos ()

Can't wait to see how Peabnut, and to a lesser extent Elegant, do here.

 

[Megamang]

Its hard to say best when there are so many MUs. Cloud for example is known for having a bad disadvantage, but it certainly doesn't feel like it if your character has mediocre hitboxes when uair is just... a whole new level of hitbox. Pretty sure Cloud's uair will trade with other Uairs from above, it definitely dodges stuff and trades well. And can you call it a trade when you end up in a significantly worse situation? Then of course he is also getting limit when you are hitting him. Its bad but it isn't horrific.



Tons of factors too. Fox's is bad again, but he loves rage and will often get a quick illusion -> uair kill if you aren't sharp. I could see saying ZSS has the 2nd best, depending on when she gets invincibility on flip kick

 

[Yonder]

So the players going to Smash Boot Camp are:

• ZeRo ()
• Nairo ()
• Dabuz ()
• Salem ()
• MKLeo ()
• Larry Lurr ()
• Void ()
• Tweek ()
• Marrss ()
• Elegant ()
• Mr. R ()
• Light ()
• Peabnut () !!!
• Xzax ()
• MVD ()
• Cosmos ()

Can't wait to see how Peabnut, and to a lesser extent Elegant, do here.

There won't be any low tier heros here anyways. Is it me, or have the low tiers slowly been disappearing from the top level scene? Even as pockets (cause DK/Bowser/Cloud are the most used pockets) or even as counterpicks?

 

[TDK]

There won't be any low tier heros here anyways. Is it me, or have the low tiers slowly been disappearing from the top level scene? Even as pockets (cause DK/Bowser/Cloud are the most used pockets) or even as counterpicks?

all destroy most of the lower tiers really hard (I'd argue harder than the other top tiers, you can try to rage kill a lot of them since most of the top tiers kill sort of late, and Fox is really easy to combo and kill anyways). This wasn't as much of an issue when it was just Rosa, but when the two most common characters at all levels of play are two of the biggest lower tier invalidators in the game... yeah.

 

[FamilyTeam]

It seems the low tier CPs have mostly been substituted by and the occasional and .

 

[The-Technique]

Were there really any low tier mains in the running to begin with?

 

[Yonder]

Were there really any low tier mains in the running to begin with?

First one that comes the closest to low tier heros is T and Raito (they are NOT low tier but closest to it in terms of "low tier heros...more like lower tier heros" )in terms of success, maybe Ryu/San for occasion breakout performances. And here and there.

That really it when I think about it...I bet Gluttony and Shinji could also make a save if they travelled more but that's about it nowadays.

 

[Envoy of Chaos]

This is just how metas work and develop over time, nothing surprising about it. As things settle over time the better characters will be the ones who keep consistent results and as you go down it gets inconsistent until it reaches a point where it doesn't really exist at all. I'd say the upper half of the roster is getting pretty set in stone as far a tier placement goes and the other half is getting there.

 

[|RK|]

There won't be any low tier heros here anyways. Is it me, or have the low tiers slowly been disappearing from the top level scene? Even as pockets (cause DK/Bowser/Cloud are the most used pockets) or even as counterpicks?

Keep in mind this is the best 8 players, 2 uninvited people who went far at specific tournaments, and 6 voted players. Not the best list to use to determine this statement.

And it's hard to talk about low tiers when the window keeps shifting. Maybe 12 characters are agreed to be low tier at this point.

 

[Baby_Sneak]

Let's not make speedy conclusions, before the next major comes up and we see someone make moves with Donkey Kong or something.

 

[freeziebeatz]

So I wanted to look at character diversity as of recent and see if the top tiers really do overshadow the rest. This is mainly from Das Koopa and I's OrionRank qualifiers. To qualify you have to hit a certain placement at certain majors but I'm not going to get into that much. So between players who qualified at Category 4&5 tournaments this year, these were the numbers I got through the player's mains and secondaries.
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Spoiler: List of Players by Character

- (29) 9B, Abadango, Aerolink, Black Yoshi, Calculus, CaptainZack, Chag, Chavo, Child, cyve, Dom, Hide, Hiro, ikep, JK, Lagnel, Lima, LingLing, Mistake, Mystearica, Nom, Pink Fresh, saj, Salem, Sells, Tweek, tyroy, Vivid, Wraith
- (11) Chaos, Deathorse, Deluxemenu, Kisha, Larry Lurr, LordMix, Nairo, NickRiddle, Paru, Ryuga, Viviff T. Great

- (8) Big D, Cashmere, Draxsel, Fatality, Kare~, Marss, Pichi, Rival
- (4) Bloodcross, Sharpyzard, SilentDoom, Tosshi
- (25) ANTi, Blacktwins, dyr, ewok, Heavy, Javi, komorikiri, LoNg0uw, MattyG, Mew2King, MKLeo, Mr.R, Nairo, Ned, Purple~H, Rain, Ralphie, Rango, SaltOne, Seibrik, SS, TSS, Tweek, WiiASE, Zephyr
- (10) Cosmos, Earth, Frozen, Ke-ya, Kodystri, MKLeo, Ryo, Ryuga, YOC, Yura
- (2) Big D, El_Bardo
- (1) Earth
- (29) 8BitMan, Ally, Angel Cortes, Braixen, Chrim Foish, cyve, Dainosuke, DJ Fliphop, dyr, Edge, IC, JaK, JJROCKETS, Jtails, k9sbruce, Legit, Lycan, Masha, MVD, NameLess, Nietono, Player-1, Rain, Seagull Joe, Shoyo James, Suinoko, WormyNugget, ZeRo, Zinoto
- (10) DKWill, false, Hackoru, HIKARU, KDK, Konga, Larry Lurr, Mew2King, NAKAT, Tweek

- (5) Brood, DandyPenguin, ImHip, Raito, You3
- (2) Ac, Cyro
- (19) Bloodcross, Charliedaking, colinies, dekillsage, Diablo, EL_Pitikla, Eon, Felix, Fwed, Ghost, Jill, Larry Lurr, Light, NAKAT, Nanchan, VoiD, wusi, Xzax, ZD
- (2) adom, Gungnir
- (14) Akashic, aMSa, DarkAura, Donquavious, Elexiao, IceArrow, iStudying, Lea, Oisiitofu, Ookami, Salem, Some, Stroder, Sukekokko
- (4) Ryo, San, stilios, Waldo
- (1) LeeT
- (1) Poyo
- (6) iTheta, Lazybordem, Sol, Vash, WonderBread, ZartZu
- (2) Scizor, T
- (2) Day, tsu
- (1) Mekos
- (3) Kogarasuma, Mr.E, NAKAT
- (6) Elegant, false, J.Miller, MrConCon, Shel, Shoyo James
- (19) Ally, ANTi, Big D, Blacktwins, Dark Wizzy, FILIP, Hackoru, KidG, Lui$, Nanchan, Ninja, RFang, RoguePenguin, smasher1001, SoCalGohan, Supahsemmie, Teb, Tengu, Zenyou
- (4) false, MKLeo, Mr.E, Pugwest
- (9) Kameme, Kisha, MattyG, Ookami, Paru, Peabnut, Repo, ScAtt, smasher1001
- (10) Abadango, Ac, DSS, Ito, KaPMk, Masha, MKLeo, Mumei, Nanchan, Tyrant
- (7) Abadango, cyve, Deathorse, Killer Jawz, Rich Brown, WaDi, Zoan
- (2) KOSSismoss, Regi Shikimi
- (10) BestNess, FOW, FuTure, Gackt, Horse, NAKAT, S1, Shaky, SS, The Great Gonzales
- (6) Dabuz, Googs, ImHip, Myran, Shuton, Soulimar
- (5) Elexiao, Koolaid, Pow, Sinji, Zage
- (2) El_Pitikla, TLTC
- (10) CaptainZack, Lima, LingLing, Meru, MuteAce, Razo, saj, Samsora, Twi, Umeki
- (6) Captain L, ESAM, Ezreal, NCJacobT, Rideae, Z
- (1) Earth
- (5) 8Bitman, LoNg0uw, Raffi-X, Robo~Luigi, Sim-Max
- (3) Dath, Ke-ya, Skorpio
- (12) Crazycolor5, Dabuz, Eldin, falln, Jan, Kirihara, Kodystri, MF DOOM, Stealthy, TonySherbert, Vinnie, Xaltis
- (4) Captain Levi, HyperKirby, komorikiri, Ryo
- (19) Apa~, Brosinex, Chanshu, DarkShad, Dunkmaster Ragna, false, Gen, Jan, Ki, Locus, NCJacobT, Phenom, PiXL, takera, THUNDER, Trela, tsu, Venom, WiiASE
- (3) ESAM, Headshot, IcyMist
- (18) Bedgar, Blank, Cacogen, DKHo, Eim, false, Javi, k9sbruce, Kameme, Karna, Koolaid, Mr.R, Nietono, Nyanko, Puppeh, Saiki, Vinnie, VoiD
- (4) Kome, M, Nicko, Shuton
- (19) 6WX, Aperture, Craftis, El_Bardo, IxisNaugus, KEN, King Will, komorikiri, Kuma, Manny, Meteor, Mr.Speedman, Phoenix, Seagull Joe, Sonido, Sonix, SuperGirlKels, VaLor, Wrath
- (8) 3xA, Biddy, MJG, Ri-ma, Ross, TLOrEo, yeti, Zan
- (5) Aarvark, MJG, PikPocket, Ranai, SS
- (2) Glutonny, TheReflexWonder
- (2) CaptainZack, John Numbers
- (3) Barakas, Seth, Snoop
- (1) ven
- (12) ANTi, Bankai, Choco, Lagnel, Luhtie, Marss, Mistake, Nairo, NickRiddle, quiK, Remzi, Tumultus
- (1) LeeT


- (2) Griffith, Rizeasu

You'll notice a bit lack of big Japanese players but the only tournament left for players to qualify left is Umebura TAT, so we should see an influx of more of those guys.

 

[Deleted member]

So I wanted to look at character diversity as of recent and see if the top tiers really do overshadow the rest. This is mainly from Das Koopa and I's OrionRank qualifiers. To qualify you have to hit a certain placement at certain majors but I'm not going to get into that much. So between players who qualified at Category 4&5 tournaments this year, these were the numbers I got through the player's mains and secondaries.
29 -
25 -
19 -
18 -
14 -
12 -
11 -
10 -
9 -
8 -
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5 -
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Spoiler: List of Players by Character

- (29) 9B, Abadango, Aerolink, Black Yoshi, Calculus, CaptainZack, Chag, Chavo, Child, cyve, Dom, Hide, Hiro, ikep, JK, Lagnel, Lima, LingLing, Mistake, Mystearica, Nom, Pink Fresh, saj, Salem, Sells, Tweek, tyroy, Vivid, Wraith
- (11) Chaos, Deathorse, Deluxemenu, Kisha, Larry Lurr, LordMix, Nairo, NickRiddle, Paru, Ryuga, Viviff T. Great

- (8) Big D, Cashmere, Draxsel, Fatality, Kare~, Marss, Pichi, Rival
- (4) Bloodcross, Sharpyzard, SilentDoom, Tosshi
- (25) ANTi, Blacktwins, dyr, ewok, Heavy, Javi, komorikiri, LoNg0uw, MattyG, Mew2King, MKLeo, Mr.R, Nairo, Ned, Purple~H, Rain, Ralphie, Rango, SaltOne, Seibrik, SS, TSS, Tweek, WiiASE, Zephyr
- (10) Cosmos, Earth, Frozen, Ke-ya, Kodystri, MKLeo, Ryo, Ryuga, YOC, Yura
- (2) Big D, El_Bardo
- (1) Earth
- (29) 8BitMan, Ally, Angel Cortes, Braixen, Chrim Foish, cyve, Dainosuke, DJ Fliphop, dyr, Edge, IC, JaK, JJROCKETS, Jtails, k9sbruce, Legit, Lycan, Masha, MVD, NameLess, Nietono, Player-1, Rain, Seagull Joe, Shoyo James, Suinoko, WormyNugget, ZeRo, Zinoto
- (10) DKWill, false, Hackoru, HIKARU, KDK, Konga, Larry Lurr, Mew2King, NAKAT, Tweek

- (5) Brood, DandyPenguin, ImHip, Raito, You3
- (2) Ac, Cyro
- (19) Bloodcross, Charliedaking, colinies, dekillsage, Diablo, EL_Pitikla, Eon, Felix, Fwed, Ghost, Jill, Larry Lurr, Light, NAKAT, Nanchan, VoiD, wusi, Xzax, ZD
- (2) adom, Gungnir
- (14) Akashic, aMSa, DarkAura, Donquavious, Elexiao, IceArrow, iStudying, Lea, Oisiitofu, Ookami, Salem, Some, Stroder, Sukekokko
- (4) Ryo, San, stilios, Waldo
- (1) LeeT
- (1) Poyo
- (6) iTheta, Lazybordem, Sol, Vash, WonderBread, ZartZu
- (2) Scizor, T
- (2) Day, tsu
- (1) Mekos
- (3) Kogarasuma, Mr.E, NAKAT
- (6) Elegant, false, J.Miller, MrConCon, Shel, Shoyo James
- (19) Ally, ANTi, Big D, Blacktwins, Dark Wizzy, FILIP, Hackoru, KidG, Lui$, Nanchan, Ninja, RFang, RoguePenguin, smasher1001, SoCalGohan, Supahsemmie, Teb, Tengu, Zenyou
- (4) false, MKLeo, Mr.E, Pugwest
- (9) Kameme, Kisha, MattyG, Ookami, Paru, Peabnut, Repo, ScAtt, smasher1001
- (10) Abadango, Ac, DSS, Ito, KaPMk, Masha, MKLeo, Mumei, Nanchan, Tyrant
- (7) Abadango, cyve, Deathorse, Killer Jawz, Rich Brown, WaDi, Zoan
- (2) KOSSismoss, Regi Shikimi
- (10) BestNess, FOW, FuTure, Gackt, Horse, NAKAT, S1, Shaky, SS, The Great Gonzales
- (6) Dabuz, Googs, ImHip, Myran, Shuton, Soulimar
- (5) Elexiao, Koolaid, Pow, Sinji, Zage
- (2) El_Pitikla, TLTC
- (10) CaptainZack, Lima, LingLing, Meru, MuteAce, Razo, saj, Samsora, Twi, Umeki
- (6) Captain L, ESAM, Ezreal, NCJacobT, Rideae, Z
- (1) Earth
- (5) 8Bitman, LoNg0uw, Raffi-X, Robo~Luigi, Sim-Max
- (3) Dath, Ke-ya, Skorpio
- (12) Crazycolor5, Dabuz, Eldin, falln, Jan, Kirihara, Kodystri, MF DOOM, Stealthy, TonySherbert, Vinnie, Xaltis
- (4) Captain Levi, HyperKirby, komorikiri, Ryo
- (19) Apa~, Brosinex, Chanshu, DarkShad, Dunkmaster Ragna, false, Gen, Jan, Ki, Locus, NCJacobT, Phenom, PiXL, takera, THUNDER, Trela, tsu, Venom, WiiASE
- (3) ESAM, Headshot, IcyMist
- (18) Bedgar, Blank, Cacogen, DKHo, Eim, false, Javi, k9sbruce, Kameme, Karna, Koolaid, Mr.R, Nietono, Nyanko, Puppeh, Saiki, Vinnie, VoiD
- (4) Kome, M, Nicko, Shuton
- (19) 6WX, Aperture, Craftis, El_Bardo, IxisNaugus, KEN, King Will, komorikiri, Kuma, Manny, Meteor, Mr.Speedman, Phoenix, Seagull Joe, Sonido, Sonix, SuperGirlKels, VaLor, Wrath
- (8) 3xA, Biddy, MJG, Ri-ma, Ross, TLOrEo, yeti, Zan
- (5) Aarvark, MJG, PikPocket, Ranai, SS
- (2) Glutonny, TheReflexWonder
- (2) CaptainZack, John Numbers
- (3) Barakas, Seth, Snoop
- (1) ven
- (12) ANTi, Bankai, Choco, Lagnel, Luhtie, Marss, Mistake, Nairo, NickRiddle, quiK, Remzi, Tumultus
- (1) LeeT


- (2) Griffith, Rizeasu

You'll notice a bit lack of big Japanese players but the only tournament left for players to qualify left is Umebura TAT, so we should see an influx of more of those guys.

It is pretty interesting that Greninja has a bigger playerbase than Rosalina and Zero Suit Samus in this. Greninja is getting some love in Smash 4. Nice research freeziebeatz !

 

[Vyrnx]

Edit: nevermind

 

[Rizen]

I've thought this for some time now: Rosalina is slightly overrated. She's easily top ten but not top 6 and not close to the top 3. Rosa can be very oppressive and seems incredibly OP when she's winning. But she also is the 4th lightest character (lighter than Kirby by 2 units), has no hitbubbles/armor on her upB and a huge hurtbox ie Mewtwo syndrome. Rosa is much worse without Luma, who's attacks start faster than hers. Luma's jab is frame 4, Rosa's is 8 for example. So when she's not dominating she's extremely vulnerable to everything. This is important to keep in mind for her MUs. Her (lack of) results reflect this too. I mean relative to other top tiers.

 

[Das Koopa]

Alright, so here's a very long explanation for my absence & my plans for the future. This is long and (probably) a bit depressing of a read, and the first veers into off-topic stuff, but this is the only time I've been this inactive since I started doing stuff and I think I should explain.


My mother's health declined significantly. She has been ill since 2014 after getting right-sided heart failure from amidarone poisoning, but her health showed no steady decline until this year. She had been in the hospital on and off a large number of times this year, seeming to worsen with each trip, which we frankly didn't grasp until a few days ago since she recovered well each time.

In September, she fell, which damage her hand and made her need a lot more assistance than she normally requires. This negatively affected my sleep schedule to the point where I was unable to do much of anything for roughly a month beyond meager updates. It was very hard to be committal because I never got more than three hours of sleep at a time. I didn't resent this since we assumed she would approve, and she slowly did, but she had to go in to the hospital for the third time this year due to poor lung conditions.

This time, unfortunately, her pulmonary fibrosis and pulmonary edema worsened to the point where she had to go onto the ventilator after a few days. This was her fourth crash this year. Her first was brought on by a kidney infection in February, her second seemed spontaneous and occurred in June, her third occurred in early July while in the hospital for her second (also seemingly spontaneous), and her fourth occurred in mid-late October after her hand and physical ability had improved from her fall. Again, there was no outside factors we could find causing this, meaning her lungs themselves were in decline.

She never improved outside of one day where her pO2 was normal while at 100% oxygen on the ventilator. She developed a couple of infections, and eventually her 02 levels dropped from 90s to the low-mid 80s (still while on the maximum settings.) My dad and I were aware of how bad this looked, and a day later we received a call that she had gone into cardiac arrest. We were able to be there with her, but she passed away despite the best efforts of our hospital. She was simply too ill.

This happened on November 7th, around 9 days ago. I loved her very, very much, and her declining health and eventual death have affected me greatly. We managed to get in a lot of time, and the night before she fell when things started to get stressful, we had a big dinner as a family that I will never forget.

I post this now because I will progressively be moving back into updating scoring, the PR database, my thread, etc, since she nor my dad (who is alive and well, thankfully) would not want me to give up things I have enjoyed doing. However, the pace will be slow.

Now, the offseason of the PGR (from early December-late January) means I can focus on OrionRank in December, and I will still put forth a lot of help with that (I haven't lately for aforementioned reasons) as well as a region ranking project I announced via reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/7c3m5h/announcement_which_regions_are_the_best_a_region/

...As my mental state hasn't been the best, I have put forth nothing into this project since posting the announcement beyond the 10% of it I had done by the time I made the post, and I intend for it to be finished by the end of the month. This should be manageable.

Now, I will be fine, but I definitely am taking life in general very slowly right now. I'm doing productive things when I can, taking my mind off things when I can, coming to terms with what life will be now, etc. I do not intend to quit my work with Smash at all but the articles & projects I work on will continue to be slow in the coming months between the dedicated work required for the rankings and my lack of drive. I am making efforts to not sulk into a depressed mess because I do not want to ever be that, and nobody I know or have known would want me to be that.

Thank you to the people who appreciate the work I put in, thank you to freeziebeatz for being an enormous help and a great partner for these projects for a year now to the point where you've improved and do most of the work (I'm sorry), thank you to TDK and Jaguar and everybody else who puts in archiving info, thank you to the 4BR for being a huge help, and I love this community and just wanted you guys to know everything.

I plan to put in a lot of work tonight in particular so you might expect an October update within a few hours. Once I'm caught up on November, I will continue my region ranking project.

I may hand over the PR topic to somebody else, but I can slowly update it over the next 2-3 months if I keep it.

 

[Rizen]

Alright, so here's a very long explanation for my absence & my plans for the future. This is long and (probably) a bit depressing of a read, and the first veers into off-topic stuff, but this is the only time I've been this inactive since I started doing stuff and I think I should explain.


My mother's health declined significantly. She has been ill since 2014 after getting right-sided heart failure from amidarone poisoning, but her health showed no steady decline until this year. She had been in the hospital on and off a large number of times this year, seeming to worsen with each trip, which we frankly didn't grasp until a few days ago since she recovered well each time.

In September, she fell, which damage her hand and made her need a lot more assistance than she normally requires. This negatively affected my sleep schedule to the point where I was unable to do much of anything for roughly a month beyond meager updates. It was very hard to be committal because I never got more than three hours of sleep at a time. I didn't resent this since we assumed she would approve, and she slowly did, but she had to go in to the hospital for the third time this year due to poor lung conditions.

This time, unfortunately, her pulmonary fibrosis and pulmonary edema worsened to the point where she had to go onto the ventilator after a few days. This was her fourth crash this year. Her first was brought on by a kidney infection in February, her second seemed spontaneous and occurred in June, her third occurred in early July while in the hospital for her second (also seemingly spontaneous), and her fourth occurred in mid-late October after her hand and physical ability had improved from her fall. Again, there was no outside factors we could find causing this, meaning her lungs themselves were in decline.

She never improved outside of one day where her pO2 was normal while at 100% oxygen on the ventilator. She developed a couple of infections, and eventually her 02 levels dropped from 90s to the low-mid 80s (still while on the maximum settings.) My dad and I were aware of how bad this looked, and a day later we received a call that she had gone into cardiac arrest. We were able to be there with her, but she passed away despite the best efforts of our hospital. She was simply too ill.

This happened on November 7th, around 9 days ago. I loved her very, very much, and her declining health and eventual death have affected me greatly. We managed to get in a lot of time, and the night before she fell when things started to get stressful, we had a big dinner as a family that I will never forget.

I post this now because I will progressively be moving back into updating scoring, the PR database, my thread, etc, since she nor my dad (who is alive and well, thankfully) would not want me to give up things I have enjoyed doing. However, the pace will be slow.

Now, the offseason of the PGR (from early December-late January) means I can focus on OrionRank in December, and I will still put forth a lot of help with that (I haven't lately for aforementioned reasons) as well as a region ranking project I announced via reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/7c3m5h/announcement_which_regions_are_the_best_a_region/

...As my mental state hasn't been the best, I have put forth nothing into this project since posting the announcement beyond the 10% of it I had done by the time I made the post, and I intend for it to be finished by the end of the month. This should be manageable.

Now, I will be fine, but I definitely am taking life in general very slowly right now. I'm doing productive things when I can, taking my mind off things when I can, coming to terms with what life will be now, etc. I do not intend to quit my work with Smash at all but the articles & projects I work on will continue to be slow in the coming months between the dedicated work required for the rankings and my lack of drive. I am making efforts to not sulk into a depressed mess because I do not want to ever be that, and nobody I know or have known would want me to be that.

Thank you to the people who appreciate the work I put in, thank you to freeziebeatz for being an enormous help and a great partner for these projects for a year now to the point where you've improved and do most of the work (I'm sorry), thank you to TDK and Jaguar and everybody else who puts in archiving info, thank you to the 4BR for being a huge help, and I love this community and just wanted you guys to know everything.

I plan to put in a lot of work tonight in particular so you might expect an October update within a few hours. Once I'm caught up on November, I will continue my region ranking project.

I may hand over the PR topic to somebody else, but I can slowly update it over the next 2-3 months if I keep it.

My sympathies. Nothing's harder than losing family. Thank you for all the work you've done.

 

[|RK|]

Alright, so here's a very long explanation for my absence & my plans for the future. This is long and (probably) a bit depressing of a read, and the first veers into off-topic stuff, but this is the only time I've been this inactive since I started doing stuff and I think I should explain.


My mother's health declined significantly. She has been ill since 2014 after getting right-sided heart failure from amidarone poisoning, but her health showed no steady decline until this year. She had been in the hospital on and off a large number of times this year, seeming to worsen with each trip, which we frankly didn't grasp until a few days ago since she recovered well each time.

In September, she fell, which damage her hand and made her need a lot more assistance than she normally requires. This negatively affected my sleep schedule to the point where I was unable to do much of anything for roughly a month beyond meager updates. It was very hard to be committal because I never got more than three hours of sleep at a time. I didn't resent this since we assumed she would approve, and she slowly did, but she had to go in to the hospital for the third time this year due to poor lung conditions.

This time, unfortunately, her pulmonary fibrosis and pulmonary edema worsened to the point where she had to go onto the ventilator after a few days. This was her fourth crash this year. Her first was brought on by a kidney infection in February, her second seemed spontaneous and occurred in June, her third occurred in early July while in the hospital for her second (also seemingly spontaneous), and her fourth occurred in mid-late October after her hand and physical ability had improved from her fall. Again, there was no outside factors we could find causing this, meaning her lungs themselves were in decline.

She never improved outside of one day where her pO2 was normal while at 100% oxygen on the ventilator. She developed a couple of infections, and eventually her 02 levels dropped from 90s to the low-mid 80s (still while on the maximum settings.) My dad and I were aware of how bad this looked, and a day later we received a call that she had gone into cardiac arrest. We were able to be there with her, but she passed away despite the best efforts of our hospital. She was simply too ill.

This happened on November 7th, around 9 days ago. I loved her very, very much, and her declining health and eventual death have affected me greatly. We managed to get in a lot of time, and the night before she fell when things started to get stressful, we had a big dinner as a family that I will never forget.

I post this now because I will progressively be moving back into updating scoring, the PR database, my thread, etc, since she nor my dad (who is alive and well, thankfully) would not want me to give up things I have enjoyed doing. However, the pace will be slow.

Now, the offseason of the PGR (from early December-late January) means I can focus on OrionRank in December, and I will still put forth a lot of help with that (I haven't lately for aforementioned reasons) as well as a region ranking project I announced via reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/7c3m5h/announcement_which_regions_are_the_best_a_region/

...As my mental state hasn't been the best, I have put forth nothing into this project since posting the announcement beyond the 10% of it I had done by the time I made the post, and I intend for it to be finished by the end of the month. This should be manageable.

Now, I will be fine, but I definitely am taking life in general very slowly right now. I'm doing productive things when I can, taking my mind off things when I can, coming to terms with what life will be now, etc. I do not intend to quit my work with Smash at all but the articles & projects I work on will continue to be slow in the coming months between the dedicated work required for the rankings and my lack of drive. I am making efforts to not sulk into a depressed mess because I do not want to ever be that, and nobody I know or have known would want me to be that.

Thank you to the people who appreciate the work I put in, thank you to freeziebeatz for being an enormous help and a great partner for these projects for a year now to the point where you've improved and do most of the work (I'm sorry), thank you to TDK and Jaguar and everybody else who puts in archiving info, thank you to the 4BR for being a huge help, and I love this community and just wanted you guys to know everything.

I plan to put in a lot of work tonight in particular so you might expect an October update within a few hours. Once I'm caught up on November, I will continue my region ranking project.

I may hand over the PR topic to somebody else, but I can slowly update it over the next 2-3 months if I keep it.

I'm sorry for your loss, man. Appreciate everything you do - keep on pushing.

 

[MH-Jin]

Alright, so here's a very long explanation for my absence & my plans for the future. This is long and (probably) a bit depressing of a read, and the first veers into off-topic stuff, but this is the only time I've been this inactive since I started doing stuff and I think I should explain.


My mother's health declined significantly. She has been ill since 2014 after getting right-sided heart failure from amidarone poisoning, but her health showed no steady decline until this year. She had been in the hospital on and off a large number of times this year, seeming to worsen with each trip, which we frankly didn't grasp until a few days ago since she recovered well each time.

In September, she fell, which damage her hand and made her need a lot more assistance than she normally requires. This negatively affected my sleep schedule to the point where I was unable to do much of anything for roughly a month beyond meager updates. It was very hard to be committal because I never got more than three hours of sleep at a time. I didn't resent this since we assumed she would approve, and she slowly did, but she had to go in to the hospital for the third time this year due to poor lung conditions.

This time, unfortunately, her pulmonary fibrosis and pulmonary edema worsened to the point where she had to go onto the ventilator after a few days. This was her fourth crash this year. Her first was brought on by a kidney infection in February, her second seemed spontaneous and occurred in June, her third occurred in early July while in the hospital for her second (also seemingly spontaneous), and her fourth occurred in mid-late October after her hand and physical ability had improved from her fall. Again, there was no outside factors we could find causing this, meaning her lungs themselves were in decline.

She never improved outside of one day where her pO2 was normal while at 100% oxygen on the ventilator. She developed a couple of infections, and eventually her 02 levels dropped from 90s to the low-mid 80s (still while on the maximum settings.) My dad and I were aware of how bad this looked, and a day later we received a call that she had gone into cardiac arrest. We were able to be there with her, but she passed away despite the best efforts of our hospital. She was simply too ill.

This happened on November 7th, around 9 days ago. I loved her very, very much, and her declining health and eventual death have affected me greatly. We managed to get in a lot of time, and the night before she fell when things started to get stressful, we had a big dinner as a family that I will never forget.

I post this now because I will progressively be moving back into updating scoring, the PR database, my thread, etc, since she nor my dad (who is alive and well, thankfully) would not want me to give up things I have enjoyed doing. However, the pace will be slow.

Now, the offseason of the PGR (from early December-late January) means I can focus on OrionRank in December, and I will still put forth a lot of help with that (I haven't lately for aforementioned reasons) as well as a region ranking project I announced via reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/7c3m5h/announcement_which_regions_are_the_best_a_region/

...As my mental state hasn't been the best, I have put forth nothing into this project since posting the announcement beyond the 10% of it I had done by the time I made the post, and I intend for it to be finished by the end of the month. This should be manageable.

Now, I will be fine, but I definitely am taking life in general very slowly right now. I'm doing productive things when I can, taking my mind off things when I can, coming to terms with what life will be now, etc. I do not intend to quit my work with Smash at all but the articles & projects I work on will continue to be slow in the coming months between the dedicated work required for the rankings and my lack of drive. I am making efforts to not sulk into a depressed mess because I do not want to ever be that, and nobody I know or have known would want me to be that.

Thank you to the people who appreciate the work I put in, thank you to freeziebeatz for being an enormous help and a great partner for these projects for a year now to the point where you've improved and do most of the work (I'm sorry), thank you to TDK and Jaguar and everybody else who puts in archiving info, thank you to the 4BR for being a huge help, and I love this community and just wanted you guys to know everything.

I plan to put in a lot of work tonight in particular so you might expect an October update within a few hours. Once I'm caught up on November, I will continue my region ranking project.

I may hand over the PR topic to somebody else, but I can slowly update it over the next 2-3 months if I keep it.

Thank you for the work you do and being so open in sharing this. I really am sorry for your loss and
I wish the best for you and your family. Try not to strain yourself too much in this and try to take things easy.

You're awesome ^^

 

[Deleted member]

Alright, so here's a very long explanation for my absence & my plans for the future. This is long and (probably) a bit depressing of a read, and the first veers into off-topic stuff, but this is the only time I've been this inactive since I started doing stuff and I think I should explain.


My mother's health declined significantly. She has been ill since 2014 after getting right-sided heart failure from amidarone poisoning, but her health showed no steady decline until this year. She had been in the hospital on and off a large number of times this year, seeming to worsen with each trip, which we frankly didn't grasp until a few days ago since she recovered well each time.

In September, she fell, which damage her hand and made her need a lot more assistance than she normally requires. This negatively affected my sleep schedule to the point where I was unable to do much of anything for roughly a month beyond meager updates. It was very hard to be committal because I never got more than three hours of sleep at a time. I didn't resent this since we assumed she would approve, and she slowly did, but she had to go in to the hospital for the third time this year due to poor lung conditions.

This time, unfortunately, her pulmonary fibrosis and pulmonary edema worsened to the point where she had to go onto the ventilator after a few days. This was her fourth crash this year. Her first was brought on by a kidney infection in February, her second seemed spontaneous and occurred in June, her third occurred in early July while in the hospital for her second (also seemingly spontaneous), and her fourth occurred in mid-late October after her hand and physical ability had improved from her fall. Again, there was no outside factors we could find causing this, meaning her lungs themselves were in decline.

She never improved outside of one day where her pO2 was normal while at 100% oxygen on the ventilator. She developed a couple of infections, and eventually her 02 levels dropped from 90s to the low-mid 80s (still while on the maximum settings.) My dad and I were aware of how bad this looked, and a day later we received a call that she had gone into cardiac arrest. We were able to be there with her, but she passed away despite the best efforts of our hospital. She was simply too ill.

This happened on November 7th, around 9 days ago. I loved her very, very much, and her declining health and eventual death have affected me greatly. We managed to get in a lot of time, and the night before she fell when things started to get stressful, we had a big dinner as a family that I will never forget.

I post this now because I will progressively be moving back into updating scoring, the PR database, my thread, etc, since she nor my dad (who is alive and well, thankfully) would not want me to give up things I have enjoyed doing. However, the pace will be slow.

Now, the offseason of the PGR (from early December-late January) means I can focus on OrionRank in December, and I will still put forth a lot of help with that (I haven't lately for aforementioned reasons) as well as a region ranking project I announced via reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/7c3m5h/announcement_which_regions_are_the_best_a_region/

...As my mental state hasn't been the best, I have put forth nothing into this project since posting the announcement beyond the 10% of it I had done by the time I made the post, and I intend for it to be finished by the end of the month. This should be manageable.

Now, I will be fine, but I definitely am taking life in general very slowly right now. I'm doing productive things when I can, taking my mind off things when I can, coming to terms with what life will be now, etc. I do not intend to quit my work with Smash at all but the articles & projects I work on will continue to be slow in the coming months between the dedicated work required for the rankings and my lack of drive. I am making efforts to not sulk into a depressed mess because I do not want to ever be that, and nobody I know or have known would want me to be that.

Thank you to the people who appreciate the work I put in, thank you to freeziebeatz for being an enormous help and a great partner for these projects for a year now to the point where you've improved and do most of the work (I'm sorry), thank you to TDK and Jaguar and everybody else who puts in archiving info, thank you to the 4BR for being a huge help, and I love this community and just wanted you guys to know everything.

I plan to put in a lot of work tonight in particular so you might expect an October update within a few hours. Once I'm caught up on November, I will continue my region ranking project.

I may hand over the PR topic to somebody else, but I can slowly update it over the next 2-3 months if I keep it.

I read the entire quote.
I am very sorry about your loss, I wish the best for you!

We are very glad you are doing positive things and making projects for us users to enjoy! I hope the best for your family! You deserve support from this community! We as a community love you too!

Thank you for the work you do and being so open in sharing this. I really am sorry for your loss and
I wish the best for you and your family. Try not to strain yourself too much in this and try to take things easy.

You're awesome ^^

I want to second this quote, saying you are awesome Das Koopa !

 

[Baby_Sneak]

Alright, so here's a very long explanation for my absence & my plans for the future. This is long and (probably) a bit depressing of a read, and the first veers into off-topic stuff, but this is the only time I've been this inactive since I started doing stuff and I think I should explain.


My mother's health declined significantly. She has been ill since 2014 after getting right-sided heart failure from amidarone poisoning, but her health showed no steady decline until this year. She had been in the hospital on and off a large number of times this year, seeming to worsen with each trip, which we frankly didn't grasp until a few days ago since she recovered well each time.

In September, she fell, which damage her hand and made her need a lot more assistance than she normally requires. This negatively affected my sleep schedule to the point where I was unable to do much of anything for roughly a month beyond meager updates. It was very hard to be committal because I never got more than three hours of sleep at a time. I didn't resent this since we assumed she would approve, and she slowly did, but she had to go in to the hospital for the third time this year due to poor lung conditions.

This time, unfortunately, her pulmonary fibrosis and pulmonary edema worsened to the point where she had to go onto the ventilator after a few days. This was her fourth crash this year. Her first was brought on by a kidney infection in February, her second seemed spontaneous and occurred in June, her third occurred in early July while in the hospital for her second (also seemingly spontaneous), and her fourth occurred in mid-late October after her hand and physical ability had improved from her fall. Again, there was no outside factors we could find causing this, meaning her lungs themselves were in decline.

She never improved outside of one day where her pO2 was normal while at 100% oxygen on the ventilator. She developed a couple of infections, and eventually her 02 levels dropped from 90s to the low-mid 80s (still while on the maximum settings.) My dad and I were aware of how bad this looked, and a day later we received a call that she had gone into cardiac arrest. We were able to be there with her, but she passed away despite the best efforts of our hospital. She was simply too ill.

This happened on November 7th, around 9 days ago. I loved her very, very much, and her declining health and eventual death have affected me greatly. We managed to get in a lot of time, and the night before she fell when things started to get stressful, we had a big dinner as a family that I will never forget.

I post this now because I will progressively be moving back into updating scoring, the PR database, my thread, etc, since she nor my dad (who is alive and well, thankfully) would not want me to give up things I have enjoyed doing. However, the pace will be slow.

Now, the offseason of the PGR (from early December-late January) means I can focus on OrionRank in December, and I will still put forth a lot of help with that (I haven't lately for aforementioned reasons) as well as a region ranking project I announced via reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/7c3m5h/announcement_which_regions_are_the_best_a_region/

...As my mental state hasn't been the best, I have put forth nothing into this project since posting the announcement beyond the 10% of it I had done by the time I made the post, and I intend for it to be finished by the end of the month. This should be manageable.

Now, I will be fine, but I definitely am taking life in general very slowly right now. I'm doing productive things when I can, taking my mind off things when I can, coming to terms with what life will be now, etc. I do not intend to quit my work with Smash at all but the articles & projects I work on will continue to be slow in the coming months between the dedicated work required for the rankings and my lack of drive. I am making efforts to not sulk into a depressed mess because I do not want to ever be that, and nobody I know or have known would want me to be that.

Thank you to the people who appreciate the work I put in, thank you to freeziebeatz for being an enormous help and a great partner for these projects for a year now to the point where you've improved and do most of the work (I'm sorry), thank you to TDK and Jaguar and everybody else who puts in archiving info, thank you to the 4BR for being a huge help, and I love this community and just wanted you guys to know everything.

I plan to put in a lot of work tonight in particular so you might expect an October update within a few hours. Once I'm caught up on November, I will continue my region ranking project.

I may hand over the PR topic to somebody else, but I can slowly update it over the next 2-3 months if I keep it.

Jesus.

Please, go on a hike to clear your mind. Meditate. Please, read the Bible or anything. Just get right. Don't worry about this. Smashboards isn't your job.

Get right first. Soooooooo sorry about your mom. My deeeeeepest condolences.

@ShinyLegendary read again, his mom died.

 

[TDK]

Alright, so here's a very long explanation for my absence & my plans for the future. This is long and (probably) a bit depressing of a read, and the first veers into off-topic stuff, but this is the only time I've been this inactive since I started doing stuff and I think I should explain.


My mother's health declined significantly. She has been ill since 2014 after getting right-sided heart failure from amidarone poisoning, but her health showed no steady decline until this year. She had been in the hospital on and off a large number of times this year, seeming to worsen with each trip, which we frankly didn't grasp until a few days ago since she recovered well each time.

In September, she fell, which damage her hand and made her need a lot more assistance than she normally requires. This negatively affected my sleep schedule to the point where I was unable to do much of anything for roughly a month beyond meager updates. It was very hard to be committal because I never got more than three hours of sleep at a time. I didn't resent this since we assumed she would approve, and she slowly did, but she had to go in to the hospital for the third time this year due to poor lung conditions.

This time, unfortunately, her pulmonary fibrosis and pulmonary edema worsened to the point where she had to go onto the ventilator after a few days. This was her fourth crash this year. Her first was brought on by a kidney infection in February, her second seemed spontaneous and occurred in June, her third occurred in early July while in the hospital for her second (also seemingly spontaneous), and her fourth occurred in mid-late October after her hand and physical ability had improved from her fall. Again, there was no outside factors we could find causing this, meaning her lungs themselves were in decline.

She never improved outside of one day where her pO2 was normal while at 100% oxygen on the ventilator. She developed a couple of infections, and eventually her 02 levels dropped from 90s to the low-mid 80s (still while on the maximum settings.) My dad and I were aware of how bad this looked, and a day later we received a call that she had gone into cardiac arrest. We were able to be there with her, but she passed away despite the best efforts of our hospital. She was simply too ill.

This happened on November 7th, around 9 days ago. I loved her very, very much, and her declining health and eventual death have affected me greatly. We managed to get in a lot of time, and the night before she fell when things started to get stressful, we had a big dinner as a family that I will never forget.

I post this now because I will progressively be moving back into updating scoring, the PR database, my thread, etc, since she nor my dad (who is alive and well, thankfully) would not want me to give up things I have enjoyed doing. However, the pace will be slow.

Now, the offseason of the PGR (from early December-late January) means I can focus on OrionRank in December, and I will still put forth a lot of help with that (I haven't lately for aforementioned reasons) as well as a region ranking project I announced via reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/7c3m5h/announcement_which_regions_are_the_best_a_region/

...As my mental state hasn't been the best, I have put forth nothing into this project since posting the announcement beyond the 10% of it I had done by the time I made the post, and I intend for it to be finished by the end of the month. This should be manageable.

Now, I will be fine, but I definitely am taking life in general very slowly right now. I'm doing productive things when I can, taking my mind off things when I can, coming to terms with what life will be now, etc. I do not intend to quit my work with Smash at all but the articles & projects I work on will continue to be slow in the coming months between the dedicated work required for the rankings and my lack of drive. I am making efforts to not sulk into a depressed mess because I do not want to ever be that, and nobody I know or have known would want me to be that.

Thank you to the people who appreciate the work I put in, thank you to freeziebeatz for being an enormous help and a great partner for these projects for a year now to the point where you've improved and do most of the work (I'm sorry), thank you to TDK and Jaguar and everybody else who puts in archiving info, thank you to the 4BR for being a huge help, and I love this community and just wanted you guys to know everything.

I plan to put in a lot of work tonight in particular so you might expect an October update within a few hours. Once I'm caught up on November, I will continue my region ranking project.

I may hand over the PR topic to somebody else, but I can slowly update it over the next 2-3 months if I keep it.

I'm so sorry to hear that. Please, don't feel forced to continue this until you're absolutely sure you're ready. We can wait, but your mental health comes first, got it?