(」・ω・)」 MARS la Marf in Smash 4 (／・ω・)／

[Kuro~]

Do yall think marth goes even with mk or is it still thought to be 55:45 mk?


and at first i wasnt gonna get B&W cuz i was like "another rehashed pokemon game...really?" then i saw the diff Poke types and new battles and wifi shiz and three v three and story and i was like ehhhhh its only 35 bux

and okill add u ZMT

 

[Reizilla]

Marth:MK is easily 30:70. Easily.

 

[Player-3]

so i heard that akali chick is a pretty **** ninja

 

[En.Ee.Oh]

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[Enzo]

ZMT's comment about ninetales

is the biggest LOOOOOLWAT in history lmao

 

[ZHMT]

Do yall think marth goes even with mk or is it still thought to be 55:45 mk?


and at first i wasnt gonna get B&W cuz i was like "another rehashed pokemon game...really?" then i saw the diff Poke types and new battles and wifi shiz and three v three and story and i was like ehhhhh its only 35 bux

and okill add u ZMT

We can wifi whenevers hopefully its not laggy =]

Marth vs Mk 65:35 MK imo

 

[ZHMT]

ZMT's comment about ninetales

is the biggest LOOOOOLWAT in history lmao

What its true, vulpix has cute paws too, fetish right ther

 

[VietGeek]

i keep forgetting zmt has good taste

 

[Kuro~]

We can wifi whenevers hopefully its not laggy =]

Marth vs Mk 65:35 MK imo

If you got AiM or sumfin it'd make it easier to contact ya when i can play lol. If not ill shoot u a pm w/e. And i dun think it should be too laggy *points at ur location**points at my location*

woah som1 really thinks marth gets screwed by mk xD


what do u mean about ninetails bein better? o.o

 

[ZHMT]

I have aim but I dont use it much, just PM me here or aib

Also Gardevoir > Ninetales

 

[Shaya]

Chaz will, imo, start beating seibrik.

Ima teach him the MK match up.

 

[Nike.]

Does he even have an account? x)

 

[Shaya]

Yes he does.

He's popped up on aim the last 2 out of 3 days, which is amazing (I had never spotted a wild chaz prior).

Either way, in the tier list thread atm, K-Prime is talking about shield SDI stuff and shows example videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRZeUndPaX4

This may be really helpful for Marth in general against MK's fsmash, which for the most part is one of our hardest moves to handle/punish.

 

[Enzo]

Ninetales got drought this gen.

Chaz beat seibrik on picto once.

 

[Nike.]

That is one of the big factors why K Prime always beats me in tourney. When marth has no jump and is forced to land with fair (RCO lag so no air dodge), he'll Power Shield it and grab me. For the longest time I was like "HOW DOES HE DO THAT, I SWEAR I'M SPACING IT!!!" until he brought it up on the boards a few months ago. Espy has also picked up on it the past few weeks, and it's tremendously helped his run-> powershield -> Shield Grab.

Having it used against me often, I know that it's def something to relook at for alot of moves (like metaknigh's fsmash). I wanna see how well it works against Snake's ftilt1.

Btw Shaya, Espy came over yesterday and told me about your aim chat

 

[Player-3]

espy and shaya sitting in a tree





c o n v ersuring






first comes letters







then comes words









then comes sexually abused animu women with big eyes and blue hair crying so much that it floods the jail cell they were abused in and they end up drowning in their own tears

sad story, bro

sad story

 

[Shaya]

I'll give P3 a 4.3/10 for that one.
It could have been good, but not enough comedy/impact.

Viet would have done it better.

Also Nike, you need to start 3 stocking espy.

 

[KillLock]

lol playing brawl minus I'd shield SDI like mad because of the crazy shield stun. was pretty cool.

looks pretty useful, never liked having my shield hit by mk's f-smash and not being able to punish.

 

[Shaya]

I wonder if theres a way to buffer shield di without doing a grab.

I know we can shield drop jab/db (frame wise), which is 'better' because of its range.

 

[Technodeath]

Why are you so awesome P3?

 

[stingers]

you can't buffer out of hitlag, so there is no way.

 

[Nike.]

I'll give P3 a 4.3/10 for that one.
It could have been good, but not enough comedy/impact.

Viet would have done it better.

Needed more furry stuff in it.

I'll give P3 a 4.3/10 for that one.
It could have been good, but not enough comedy/impact.

Viet would have done it better.

I'll get right on that.

 

[Reizilla]

So the c-stick movement is a DI input and a buffered grab at the same time, right? MKs goan be free now. Specially Espy.

 

[Technodeath]

Shall be interesting

 

[Espy Rose]

I've been using Shield DI for quite some time, Nike. S'been a little more than a few weeks.

But I haven't really used it too often. A bit too risky still, since it requires a read to do perfectly.

 

[Player-3]

I'll give P3 a 4.3/10 for that one.
It could have been good, but not enough comedy/impact.

Viet would have done it better.

Also Nike, you need to start 3 stocking espy.

viet does everything better

but yeah i was about to go to sleep and i decided to throw something out there

didn't think about it bro, that was all written in under a minute, yeeeaahyuuhhz


except the for spacing between lines, figured i needed the surprise factor and stuff

 

[Shaya]

Autocancels assumes 2 frames landing lag.

Neutral Air (hit one)
Adv (IASA): -39 / -42
Adv (IASA): -38 / -41 [optimal]
Adv (AC): -16 / -19
Adv (AC): -15 / -18 [optimal]
Adv (FF): -5 / -8

Neutral Air (Hit Two)
Adv (IASA): -29 / -32
Adv (IASA): -22 / -25 [optimal]
Adv (AC): -6 / -9
Adv (AC): +1 / -2 [optimal]
Adv (FF): -3 / -6

Back Air
Adv (IASA): -25 / -30
Adv (IASA): -21 / -26 [optimal]
Adv (AC): -20 / -24
Adv (AC): -15 / -20 [optimal]
Adv (FF): -15 / -20

Forward Air
Adv (IASA): -23 / -27
Adv (IASA): -20 / -24 [optimal]
Adv (AC): -18 / -22
Adv (AC): -15 / -19 [optimal]
Adv (FF): -3 / -7

Up Air
Adv (IASA): -34 / -38
Adv (IASA): -30 / -34 [optimal]
Adv (AC): -17 / -21
Adv (AC): -13 / -16 [optimal]
Adv (FF): -3 / -7

Down Air
Adv (IASA): -45 / -51
Adv (IASA): -42 / -48 [optimal]
Adv (AC): -35 / -41
Adv (AC): -32 / -38 [optimal]
Adv (FF): -25 / -31

 

[Shaya]

tl;dr - Neutral Air is the best aerial of ALL TIME. OF ALL TIME.
+1 frame advantage? try to beat that, diddy kong.

Also our only tippered 'low landing lag' aerial that is -6 on fast fall instead of -7.

 

[clowsui]

neutral air is +1 on block, what?

 

[Laem]

SHAYA

does australia use Pal or NTSC?
(nair is too good btw!)

 

[dean.]

PAL is sold in stores, although some people have purchased an NTSC copy from America.

 

[PEACE7]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rtXOUPoGws

 

[Reizilla]

I don't get it.

See what you've done, Mr. R?

 

[Shaya]

neutral air is +1 on block, what?

i've been telling people this for a while.
Neutral air hitbox is out to frame 21.
And it autocancels frame 23.

 

[NH Cody]

Could someone give me a brief summary of the wolf matchup?

 

[Shaya]

Could someone give me a brief summary of the wolf matchup?

Unlike against most characters, you got to really pick your aerials wisely.
How you land is very important as well.

Wolf's fair, bair will "get you" from the ground with whiffed aerials quite easily if you make a mistake.
Fsmash will "GET YOU LIKE LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD" if you whiff any move with any lag.

 

[NH Cody]

Ah I see...thanks shaya ^^

 

[Reizilla]

Dancing blade your bess fren.

 

[Shaya]

yeah dancing blade is very good.
Wolf doesn't have the best options out of throws either. So grabs are really really strong (you even have fthrow x 2 dair)

 

[Reizilla]

Does my timing suck or does fthrowx3 to fsmash not work on wolf?