(」・ω・)」 MARS la Marf in Smash 4 (／・ω・)／

[Shaya]

I better check the tier lists too while im at it.

y ish Ike so low he has tah ph1r3 and dooz will fightan metanight with da moar range and kill powar.

Oh, and good sir, Marf also has like more range than the leader of the Meta Knights; Meta Knight; our dtilt is longer, and our fair totally combos into a dtilt that combos into a fair, and dancing blade is the best move in the game, and marth's dolphin slash kills the universe.

 

[Lord Chair]

y ish Ike so low he has tah ph1r3 and dooz will fightan metanight with da moar range and kill powar.

Oh, and good sir, Marf also has like more range than the leader of the Meta Knights; Meta Knight; our dtilt is longer, and our fair totally combos into a dtilt that combos into a fair, and dancing blade is the best move in the game, and marth's dolphin slash kills the universe.

In fact, dtilt comboes into dtilt which pretty much makes it an infinite.

As such, Marth is almost as broken as Lucas' fsmash.

 

[Thunder Of Zeus]

Let's clear this issue up. Take a look at these two posts. The second contradicts the first.

Guys...

I did a ken combo with uairs on that one fat penguin.

I feel happy, someone give me a cookie.

Hm... I could've sworn that the Ken combo was carrying your target off of the stage with a series of Fairs, ending with a Dair. This puts Marth in a checkmate position since his opponent will either be ***** by the tipper Dair, or will be in the position to be edgeguarded.

There are no "combos" in Smash, only follow ups. This makes Melee fail Melee and every belief of Melee false. This includes the Ken combo.

Meow.

No cookie. No ball of string. No Kitty-Crack.

 

[Zankoku]

The Ken Combo is simply fair dair. It was originally performed in Smash 64, with Captain Falcon.

Melee has no combos? Have you ever dthrown a floaty with Sheik, or waveshined a heavy character? The more complex combos are rather freeform due to how much influence DI has, but there is still enough hitstun to land hits in without giving the chance of escape.

 

[Thunder Of Zeus]

The Ken Combo is simply fair dair. It was originally performed in Smash 64, with Captain Falcon.

Melee has no combos? Have you ever dthrown a floaty with Sheik, or waveshined a heavy character? The more complex combos are rather freeform due to how much influence DI has, but there is still enough hitstun to land hits in without giving the chance of escape.

Someone wiki'd.

 

[Zankoku]

Actually I originally read that from Ken's MLG interview. I'm guessing it got placed on the Wiki later?

 

[9Kplus1]

The Ken Combo is simply fair dair. It was originally performed in Smash 64, with Captain Falcon.

Melee has no combos? Have you ever dthrown a floaty with Sheik, or waveshined a heavy character? The more complex combos are rather freeform due to how much influence DI has, but there is still enough hitstun to land hits in without giving the chance of escape.

Combos have three parts to them: The initial hit, the inescapable follow up(s), and the finishing hit. The initial hit is simple, it starts to combo. The initial hit itself can be as simple as a basic attack, to a difficult setup; however, the follow up should always be able to "connect" with that initial hit, no matter where your target goes. In Smash, even in Melee, there were very few reliable setups for some inescapable follow ups (well...) like Waveshining, the Ken combo, or the classic, triple Uair > Falcon Dive combo. DI influences how a follow up will be shaped, or how a "combo" will end up as. There are very few combos in Smash that, from the initial hit, can have reliable, inescapable follow ups.

The ending hit of a combo does one of two things: places the user in a checkmate position, ranging from getting their spacing back, to KOing their opponent. The second result of the ending hit is just placing the target in a position where they can't follow up with much. No, this doesn't mean that if character's A, C and D can break out of character B's combo, that the combo is nonexistent or unreliable. It means that certain characters can get out of "inescapable" combos, that's all. No matter how you look at it, all "combos" and follow ups in smash have an ending hit, even if it's just knocking someone off of the stage.

In simpler terms; Smash's most of Smash's DI reliant, so they're unreliable, but they're still there.

No cookie. No ball of string. No Kitty-Crack.

Ehhhhhhhhhh.....................

 

[Player-3]

what about stomp to knee?

or dropzoning

or raptor boost to knee

or nair to grab

or knee at 0 to grab

or uair to grab

 

[∫unk]

Yesterdays livestrean was fun

expect a junk vs steel livestrean soon

 

[Zankoku]

Combos have three parts to them: The initial hit, the inescapable follow up(s), and the finishing hit. The initial hit is simple, it starts to combo. The initial hit itself can be as simple as a basic attack, to a difficult setup; however, the follow up should always be able to "connect" with that initial hit, no matter where your target goes. In Smash, even in Melee, there were very few reliable setups for some inescapable follow ups (well...) like Waveshining, the Ken combo, or the classic, triple Uair > Falcon Dive combo. DI influences how a follow up will be shaped, or how a "combo" will end up as. There are very few combos in Smash that, from the initial hit, can have reliable, inescapable follow ups.

In a sense, Smash only has follow ups that are dependent on where you opponent goes, rather than the initial hit that supposedly sets it up.

How can you claim Smash has no initial hits when that's almost all you ever get in Brawl? What's the significance of a "finishing hit?" Why do you need a single reliable followup for it to be a combo? Have you ever heard of "situational combo?" They often happen in games where counterhits cause different behavior than normal hits. They are also listed when certain characters have strange hitboxes that allow them to escape normally working combos.

If you hit someone and there is enough hitstun to lead into an attack, yet you don't manage to connect with that next attack, it's not called "Smash has no combos," it's called "you dropped the combo."

Hell, Brawl itself has several combos. They just all rely on the hitstun that can't be canceled with an airdodge or attack.

 

[phi1ny3]

I blame the bulk of this last page on Psyduck mindgames.

 

[Albert.]

LOL at someone telling Ankoku something obvious about smash.

Hi from North Carolina, Marth boards

(usually I'm in Florida)

 

[Player-3]

hey albert come to georgia this saturday and participate in the tournament

plox

 

[9Kplus1]

I'm just gonna john about how my post wasn't finished; I thought I clicked preview post, then my attention was drawn to a hilarious series of Youtube vids. So, if you could just direct your arguments to that post...

what about stomp to knee?

or dropzoning

or raptor boost to knee

or nair to grab

or knee at 0 to grab

or uair to grab

There are very few combos in Smash that, from the initial hit, can have reliable, inescapable follow ups.

I didn't say that there weren't any reliable follow ups :/.

I found myself ADing after Raptor Boost in Melee and isn't dropzoning running off the stage into a Knee?

How can you claim Smash has no initial hits when that's almost all you ever get in Brawl?

Requoteing because I'm lazy:

There are very few combos in Smash that, from the initial hit, can have reliable, inescapable follow ups.

What's the significance of a "finishing hit?"

Read the edited post.

Why do you need a single reliable followup for it to be a combo?

So, if most of the cast in a game can get out of a combo... it's still a combo?

Have you ever heard of "situational combo?" They often happen in games where counterhits cause different behavior than normal hits.

I've heard of situational combos, plenty of times. In Smash, situational combos are limited to powerhshielding in between hits, jabbing, buffering in some moves, etc. They can break most combos, but that alone doesn't make combos unreliable.

They are also listed when certain characters have strange hitboxes that allow them to escape normally working combos.

Read the edited post :/.

If you hit someone and there is enough hitstun to lead into an attack, yet you don't manage to connect with that next attack, it's not called "Smash has no combos," it's called "you dropped the combo."

Hell, Brawl itself has several combos. They just all rely on the hitstun that can't be canceled with an airdodge or attack.

You caught me

I blame the bulk of this last page on Psyduck mindgames.

Mindgamez son

 

[Player-3]

lolol i know i read it man i just like trolling

sorry its a bad habit

 

[Pr0phetic]

So hippie and I just had some fun seriouslies, on wifi (get @ US). Man my Marth is doing pretty good, five more days of practice before my next tourney!

 

[Albert.]

hey albert come to georgia this saturday and participate in the tournament

plox

I wish :/ I'm afraid that that'd be a little impossible :/

lolol i know i read it man i just like trolling

sorry its a bad habit

no don't stop!

your posts are funny lol

 

[Steel]

ME AND PIERCE DOING SUBSPACE



http://www.ustream.tv/channel/steel2nd

 

[Dr Peepee]

Bass, you're in NC? Where at?

Lol Steel.

 

[Albert.]

Bass, you're in NC? Where at?

Lol Steel.

Blowing Rock, Near Boone

 

[Dr Peepee]

Ahh, not many (locally known) players near you then. That sucks.

 

[Player-3]

steel your phone is extremely loud

just sayin'

 

[Albert.]

Ahh, not many (locally known) players near you then. That sucks.

:/sometime I should travel somewhere for special training.

(to suck less LOL)

thanks for asking though


BTW people on ustream what was NEO talking about? Ftilt destroys approaches? whose Ftilt destroys whom?

:O

 

[feardragon64]

ME AND PIERCE DOING SUBSPACE



http://www.ustream.tv/channel/steel2nd

They're playing melee now. lmao

 

[Viquey]

D'aw, I wanted to see subspace silliness! Oh well. I'll lurk anyway, as long as it doesn't lag me too much.

...I feel like I was gonna ask or say something else, but I forget. >.>

 

[Albert.]

feardragon did you read my post on your emo blog?

BTW everyone should listen to October's Storm on this band's page Myspace.com/thereignofkindo

 

[feardragon64]

feardragon did you read my post on your emo blog?

Junk is forcing me to come over on Friday to play Smash and get over my smash emo-ness. I'll see how it goes.

 

[Steel]

You guys can't touch our melee tech

 

[Shaya]

Does anyone care about your melee tech? :o

Pierce's on the other hand... <3

 

[feardragon64]

You guys had some pro sd's. <3
But I enjoyed watching.

 

[Steel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCv-NKl7uuQ

 

[Pr0phetic]

Lmao Steel + Pierce = most lul stream ever.

Fear stick with Marth homeboy, don't quit, you'll pull thru.

 

[Dr Peepee]

@Steel: Hahaha I love those type of things.

 

[Viquey]

Ahahaha yay! Misheard lyrics!

...now I'll be on a misheard lyrics youtubing spree for the rest of the night. Thanks a lot, steel!

Ohoh and I remember what I forgot to say last post: to set the record straight, I'm not "clawing" or whatever. I use tap jump. XD

 

[Thunder Of Zeus]

I wanna claw just because it's wicked sweet.

 

[TKD+ITA+Mar=]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCv-NKl7uuQ

At first I was like NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO, because my Grandmaster plays that song all the time at the my Tae Kwon Do gym.

I'll be preparing for a tournament sweating blood, hardly able to stand up, and then I hear GEE GEE GEE GEE BABY BABY!!! and I want to hurt someone.

But then

I went

LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!

Too great.


If only my youtube player wasn't screwed up and I could see all of it...

 

[Roxas M]

why is a gnome going to cut me? i didn't do anything. lol

 

[ChaosKnight]

You guys can't touch our melee tech

ahahah stick with brawl

 

[Remzi]

*is extremely saddened that he missed steel and pierce playing subspace*

 

[Camalange]

btw sonic sucks:

this is me doing emblem lord style, i'm a very aggressive marth but this is what he told me he did to blue's sonic and ***** him. all sonic does is try to bait **** and run around, but when he actually wants to fight he dies to short hop fair. and i know sonic can do way better than that but its w/e, btw vex is a better player than me

and simply be smart and not fall for his baiting

like in the first few seconds of the video it was obv he was going to bait and i just stood there lol

Not as easy as you thought, eh?