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Phil, I've had way to much fun just sending your sigs YTMND link to ppl telling them to turn their volume on max first.

Many of my friends now hate me for it.
Happy Holidays.

no problem.

Oh, that's my photobucket, rofl. I'll make it public again.

http://s886.photobucket.com/albums/ac67/Miku__Miku/Avatars/

theres no lag after a dash only when u start running

marth's dash is really long so with good timing i can emulate melee's dashdance

for the dash dance... dash right, at the end of it dash right again but immediately dash left (like brawl dashdance except instead of going left right left right im only only using it to change direction) repeat

to do attacks and stuff i just dash dash and time it so when marths at a standstill he'll do an attack thats why i can dash dash f-smash or stutter step jab

mostly its timing once you get the rhythm of your characters dashdance you can do it all the time that reminds me i should learn ddd's

Lol it's all right.

I'll try to get on tonight!

Sorry I haven't helped contribution to the Lucario Matchup yet, I've been really busy lately with finals and stuff. I promise to get to it soon, after I read and catch up on what other people have said. Also, I play on making a G&W vs Lucario thread Export in the G&W boards soon.

PHIL!

Get on aim. I gotta talk to you about my Thread!

Lol, guessing you talked to Shippo?

I dunno, Oregon is one of those strange states (one that happens to be next to Utah) and Mormonism is a rather foreign religion to me, so I kinda associated the two a little bit.

dont worry bout some 'fly me to tourney' business

australian tournaments are horrible, no one gets any better by playing against different campers and spammers

lol its okay. I'm glad your coming over to the light

Naw, I'd go like "Alright, so the date the next tierlist will be released on is [random date]. We might finish up sooner, then you can be happy. We might take longer, then you'll know by the tier list not being posted by then. Joy!"

Y'know, I'm kinda tempted to just post a random date into the Tierlist thread so people shut up. :D

that rap you just gave is both awesome and incredibly WTF?! wrenching.

I dont think your a witch =D
becuz youze a guy >_>

In case Lee has never made it clear, he thinks you're incredibly intelligent and likes reading your posts. He <3's you.

That makes sense why I can't say it.

Thanks for the translated Lucario, I'm guessing, I'll look around for stuff just to see what they are doing playstylewise.

One wierd thing I noticed today is that I've seen some use SideB in the air to space, that strikes me as wierd.

Bringing the community together would be a good idea, most people don't care which is really sad.

I actually think I'll look for more *** Lucario's to find out how they play and see what they do.

edit: so I can 't abbreviate Japanese. :/

I'm guessing the reason that Lucario avoided camping was because of Cape fear, but people don't even need a projectile to camp and BAS wouldn't have killed him if reflected.

I can't figure out why they love Dsmash, I know it's a good way to punish some spot dodges and rolls but that Lucario seemed to love it

Dtilt should be looked into, but I don't know how safe it is on block compared to Ftilt.

I know people say Japan is really aggressive and should be ignore, while they shouldn't be ignored they do play more aggressively than we do.

What's your opinion on Japanese Lucarios?

I don't like how they play, there is no imagination to doing anything different. They seem to try and space aerials and some almost avoid his ground game entirely, except for Fsmash kills.

Yea I do understand it though...just didnt realize it was phil nye.

Lucario in space was helped created by Bill Nye...SCIENCE!....so on and so forth.

I JUST noticed that you name is pronounced PhilNye, ive been trying to pronounce it with the actual numbers in it....

BTW you inspired me to pick up Lucario as a second along with PT.

AND i watch Bill Nye when i get bored.

when i said marth is pretty much meh, i kinda meant meh in terms of going against him with either falco or lucario.

Marth's air game is near unparalleled imo. the only thing he CANT do in the air is recover from the stage boundaries.
Snake's broken lol :D

but yeah. what makes Lee think its 60:40 our favor?

what makes him think its 60:40 lucario?

and well..... yeah Marth pretty much is meh, but the only other guy who does a better job is MK, and probably snake, and they do better off alone.

I have not tired that yet, and yes I do agree that lucario's stool jump is stupid. Not to mention how hard it is in the first place to stool jump.

Why yes sir, I am. Just started.

Wow wow woooow!!!

Nice avy.

Phil, Im loving your avatar and your little "The gay tamagotchi ripoff" thing.

Oh and Im trying to get some stool jumping things going with lucario. Like up-throw to stool jump to aura charge (on them of course).
So far, little results.

I dunno whether lucario seems to be improving or not... i mean, looking at it now, our tourney results are improving, but are MU are getting worse and worse wtf??

what do you think?

also, now that i think about it... falco seems almost perfect as a luc second. or vice versa. Falco deals with lucario's worst MU's pretty well like D3/ Snake/MK/ everybodyelseinStierlol. while luc takes out Falco's weaknesses. (like IC's)

Hehe. You just want to respace yourself constantly and REALLY save the fsmash. One smash by the side after a fair-nair will really F up a marth. Shoot an AS after and force them to airdodge then immediately grab the ledge at the same time against his up B. It works everytime. other than than try to be spaced above him and go for more dairs than fairs(for obvious reasons) marths fair destroys up straight up. but i think Its 60-40 in our favor.

YES!!! OMG super pro lol.

Get two Wario's. Both have to be good at SDI to time it well.

First Wario Double Jump max height Dairs while the other Wario gets hit on purpose. He SDI's above Wario #1, and dairs him. Wario #1 SDI's that up, and Dairs Wario #2. Over and over.

It's BRILLIANT! I patent that **** lmao.

Yeah, i'm sorry its been broken for a while now. (still is)

I meet up with Lee probably two to five times a month pending tournaments. His laptop is broken so he isn't on aim or posting on smashboards much.

*The difference is that the later*** Lucario hits with the first hit of Dair, the smaller of a frame disadvantage he will be at at the end of the move.*

How long the Hitbox lasts/duration of the single hitbox also does not matter for SDI.

The difference is that the latter Lucario hits with the first hit of Dair, the smaller of a window he will be open at later in the move.

If I get hit on frame 4, I go into the phase where I am able to SDI. I do so the best I can. Now time passes and I cannot SDI any further. I am about to experience hitstun, and Lucario is about to continue with his attack. Let's just say that for the sake of argument and to demonstrate my answer better, let's just say that at the end of that all, Lucario is open for 10 frames exactly and that I experience exactly 10 frames of hitstun. Meaning the other person recovers 10 frames sooner from the first hit than Lucario recovers from the entire move.

Now, say that instead of frame 4, I enter the Dair hitbox later, say frame 7. The same thing happens here. I get hit, go through the SDI phase, it ends/hitstun is about to start/Lucario is about to continue with his attack. The difference in this scenario compared to the earlier one is that at the end of it, instead of having a 10 frame "advantage" against Lucario, it will be less. I will experience the same about of hitstun, I just am hit with the attack later. So I get hit on frame 7, experience 10 frames of hitstun, and then I can hit you. Naturally that means if I had a 10 frame advantage, it's now down to 7 frames (Being hit on Frame 4 vs Frame 7, I have 3 frames less to hit you).

Duration of a hitbox Generally does not affect SDI windows, neither does it usually affect the possibility of the opponent punishing (there are few instances where the opponent gets hit with the "later" part of a hitbox and because of that they barely miss the opportunity to punish the opponent with SDI/follow up attack because as you probably know, individual hitboxes rarely last for more than a few frames before disappearing.)

So in short, being hit by the later part of the first hitbox of Dair GENERALLY does not shorten Lucario's frame disadvantage enough for Lucario to avoid being punished by his opponent if they SDI outside the range of the second hitbox. I say generally because I've not looked at every character and seen whether that 3ish frame difference makes a difference in whether they are able to punish or not. That and while earlier I assumed for the sake of argument that the punishment Window was 10 frames, I do not know exactly how big of a window it is. I think it's safe to say it's at least 10 frames since I know moves slightly under 10 frames look easily guaranteed to hit on Lucario (Wario's Uair for example is definitely guaranteed.)

I know. You've told me.
KevinM??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIhrOcTgcRU&feature=related

Lol at your McDonalds video.

alo.
Do you happen to know how many frames the hitbox of Zero Suit Samus' Down B Kick stays out?

Yeah it's dead for good now I guess, every student I got just quit anyways and went to mk or marth oh well .

I was looking at Vex's Profile. >_>

lol, I kind of expected that.

Just sort of wondering because I might be able to help you with the Bowser matchup... and I'd like to fight a good Lucario (I've fought Mewter and he was pretty good though).

It's still horrid imo, sorry.