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  • Negative status effects in Ultimate
    • Sleep
    • Bury
    • Flower
    • Freeze
    • Stun
    • Slow
    • Paralyze
    • Slip
    • Curse
    • Ink
    • Poison
    • Mushroom
    I feel like Supernova should've also included Bury, Freeze, Paralyze, Slip, Ink and Poison.
    I just saw PBG's video on Christmas Tree.

    ....You think that movie would fly today if it was remade to be actually good?
    Just for reference, here’s all the characters who didn’t have a 3D model prior to their Smash debut:
    • Samus
    • Ness
    • Captain Falcon
    • Ice Climbers
    • Dr. Mario
    • Marth
    • Roy
    • Mr. Game & Watch
    • Pit
    • Lucas
    • Duck Hunt
    I just finished Sephy's Spirit Board. I found myself disabling items for a lot of them, making them kinda easy compared to the other Spirit Boards I've done.

    Of course, I used Sephiroth for all of them.
    I think the legalities for KH might be a little easier to go through than people claim;
    • For the general KH license, you go to Disney
    • For the characters and locations, you go to Nomura
    • For music (well, most of it, anyways), you go to Yoko Shimomura (who's been on board for Smash since Brawl)
    From my point of view, it's certainly easier to go through than Dragon Quest.
    Perkilator
    Perkilator
    Literally everyone who makes KH merch likely paid for that price tag. I'm sure Nintendo would be willing too.
    link2702
    link2702
    You're talking about a company that constantly uses 5-10 year dated tech in each new console because it's cheaper. Nintendo very often doesn't wanna pay a high price tag for stuff.
    Perkilator
    Perkilator
    Said company still managed to go through the legal hassle for Dragon Quest (especially the music).
    The justice the composers did with all the other series’ themes and their remixes only makes me wish that Byleth’s and Min Min’s songs had more remixes.
    FYI: If Scholastic and a bunch of merchandise creators could get their hands on the KH license, I’m sure Nintendo could if negotiations went well enough. At the end of the day, it falls on whether or not Nomura’s okay with it (and he’s approved a lot of KH-related things).
    I had a dream where Crash was revealed…but he looked more like a Tony the ****ing Tiger / Crash hybrid.
    Honestly, I want the last three characters to be Crash, Bandana Dee and Sora just so naysayers of the latter two can be proven wrong.
    On Serebii.net, I showed a couple HMK videos shining light on Sora’s situation. And what do they do? They give me a warning for advertising videos. This is how they worded it:

    “ I don't care how bad you want Sora, this thread ain't for advertising youtube theorists.”
    The Sephiroth Challenge thing gave me a couple ideas:
    1. They should do this for every DLC character after Sephy
    2. What if, when Sora ever joined, they included the Garden of Assemblage as a new WoL area, where you can fight WoL's bosses at your leisure?
    Looking back, I would've preferred Azura over Corrin, Alm over Chrom, and Edelgard over Byleth. I also would've preferred that, if we were gonna get a TH character eventually, they be the first fighter of Vol. 2.
    My special moveset for Ayumi Tachibana
    B : Flashlight
    ; Ayumi shines a flashlight for a split second, briefly stunning fighters in a moderate area
    B + Forwards : Sun Rays; Ayumi slowly walks forward and holds up a magnifying glass to use an angled ray of sunlight; the attack does more damage in stages that take place during the day
    B + Up : Umbrella; Ayumi mervously opens her umbrella and gently floats down; unlike the parasols of :ultpeach::ultdaisy:, Ayumi's only hits once and:
    • It primarily takes Ayumi down slowly
    • It only really moves in one direction; tilting the control stick in the opposite direction simply slows it down
    B + Down : Inspect; Ayumi looks down upon the ground with her magnifying glass, in which case there's a 50/50 chance she'll get an item
    Final Smash: Case Closed; Ayumi glares at up to three opponents in front of her. Any that are within her vision radius are taken into a cutscene emulating the games where Ayumi deduces all three of the opponents as the perpetrators, sending them all flying away. If any of the opponents have an item, the attack deals 5% more damage.
    I’m a little less cold to the idea of an Assist Trophy getting as DLC later down the line…but only a little.

    I mean, to be fair, the DLC didn’t exactly start out with Assist promotions in mind.
    RetrogamerMax
    RetrogamerMax
    Yeah, but Sakurai can do what he wants regardless of what the fans think. If a Spirit promotion and a secondary non Echo 3rd party villain can be DLC than so can a Assist Trophy promotion.
    What if Edelgard was in Smash instead of Byleth?
    B : Hades Ω;
    Edelgard charges up dark magic by holding down the B button. At full charge or any time before, pressing B has Edelgard summon a pillar of dark magic around herself.
    B + Forwards : Raging Storm; Edelgard swings Amyr and moves somewhat forward. Each successful hit allows her to use the move again, but only when hits connect.
    B + Up : Flickering Flower; Edelgard jumps up high and slams Amyr on the ground, creating a shockwave that briefly stuns fighters.
    B + Down : Helm Splitter; Edelgard charges Amyr and slams down on the ground, which instantly breaks shields.
    Final Smash: Black Eagle Strike Force; "Forward, now!" Edelgard blows up an explosive barrel in front of herself; opponents caught in the blast are taken in a cutscene where Edelgard calls the Imperial Guard and the Black Eagles to attack the enemy all at once.
    Just a thought; how would you guys feel if the DLC was this?
    Vol. 1
    • Joker (April 2019)
    • Hero (July 2019)
    • Banjo-Kazooie (September 2019)
    • Sakura Shinguji (November 2019)
    • Terry Bogard (January 2020)
    Vol. 2
    • Edelgard von Hresvelg (March-April 2020)
    • Crash Bandicoot (June 2020)
    • Sephiroth (September-October 2020)
    • Steve (January-February 2021)
    • Min-Min (May-June 2021)
    • Excitebiker (September 2021)
    Vol. 3
    • Sora (December 2021)
    • Scorbunny (February 2022)
    • Euden (June 2022)
    • Dr. Eggman (October 2022)
    Ridley64
    Ridley64
    I would love it.
    Spongeboob
    Spongeboob
    It depends on how they play.
    Perkilator
    Perkilator
    Spongeboob Spongeboob Alright, then. Here's how I figure each non-confirmed fighter would play:
    • Sakura would be a fast character who does decent damage
    • Edelgard would deal extreme damage with her attacks, but be a somewhat slow and heavy character (mainly due to having to carry Amyr around)
    • Crash would be an all-around fighter who mainly relies on his agility to avoid unnecessary conflict (maybe even use the Death Tornado Spin to save his arse)
    • Excitebiker would be a mostly-ground rooted fighter with situation moments in the air
    • Sora would be a combo-centric character with multiple options to keep combos going (be it normal attacks or his spells, which could beupgraded with Situation Commands but then would recharge when the Situation Command version is used)
    • Scorbunny would be a nimble but lightweight fighter who, like Excitebiker, would mostly stick to the ground
    • Euden would be a character who has options to fight without transforming, but should still be cautious until it's safe to transform
    • Eggman would be a somewhat slow character with great air speed but equally slow attacks as Edelgard, being in his Egg Mobile
    Let's be real.

    You knew it was Sephiroth as soon as the music started.
    Zachmac
    Zachmac
    It took me a second to recognize the song but the moment Cloud's face was shown it clicked. And I'm someone who's never even played an FF game.
    Janx_uwu
    Janx_uwu
    I've played FFVII but never got far enough to hear One Winged Angel. I just knew it was him because the music was so intimidating. It gave me major Sephiroth vibes despite never seeing the guy in-game.
    Pokelego999
    Pokelego999
    I recognized it but forgot what game it was from. So the buildup was even more satisfying when I remembered what it was from.
    Well, there goes two beliefs I had thanks to Sephiroth:

    -Multiple non-Echo characters from the same 3rd part franchise would only spark bias debates, ergo only Echoes work in this regard
    -Sephiroth would have to be an Assist Trophy at most purely because of his sword

    Basically, Sakurai doesn't give a ---- and I love it.
    D
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    Yep, the AT detraction fell flat on it's face with Sephi. Definitely did not deserve just an AT.. he's Sephiroth, for crying out loud. Lmao. One of the most iconic villains. That'd be like making Eggman an AT.
    D
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    Also that "no more than one unique character from one company or game" fanrule also fell on it's face. Ken and Richter don't count as they're echoes. Sephi just broke a lot of fanrules today. Third-party villain. DLC villain. There were definitely fanrules for "no villain is going to be DLC".

    Another Sonic rep (for example) is very likely now, maybe not for this game though. Unless they want to throw in Eggman last minute towards the end. They had to face that dumb fanrule before. Now that's no longer a thing.

    Thanks Sephi!
    RetrogamerMax
    RetrogamerMax
    Thanks to Sephiroth, plenty of my most wanted characters like Zero, Tron Bonne, Chun-Li, and Gruntilda are not pipedreams anymore.
    As much as I want Sakurai to get some well-deserved rest, I'm actually a little open to the idea of a Vol. 3 now.
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    Otoad64
    Otoad64
    personally I want this to be the last pass, tbh i kinda just want to know the final roster
    Man, so much would've been possible for Melee if it weren't rushed. We could've gotten characters like:
    • Ayumi Tachibana
    • Wario
    • Maybe Banjo if it weren't for the legalese with Microsoft
    • Maybe Scizor if they wanted to add that instead of :pichumelee: since they'd have more time
    Otoad64
    Otoad64
    why would we have gotten ayumi? she was rejected because it wouldn't make sense for her to fight. also we probably would have gotten :ultsonic::ultsnake: a game early
    Perkilator
    Perkilator
    I managed to make her a special moveset that isn’t really combat-oriented, but moreso safety-oriented.

    B : Flashlight; Ayumi shines a flashlight for a split second, briefly stunning fighters in a moderate area
    B + Forwards : Sun Rays; Ayumi slowly walks forward and holds up a magnifying glass to use an angled ray of sunlight; the attack does more damage in stages that take place during the day
    B + Up : Umbrella; Ayumi mervously opens her umbrella and gently floats down; unlike the parasols of :ultpeach::ultdaisy:, Ayumi's only hits once and:
    • It primarily takes Ayumi down slowly
    • It only really moves in one direction; tilting the control stick in the opposite direction simply slows it down
    B + Down : Inspect; Ayumi looks down upon the ground with her magnifying glass, in which case there's a 50/50 chance she'll get an item

    And, in the event she returned for Ultimate:
    Final Smash: Case Closed; Ayumi glares at up to three opponents in front of her. Any that are within her vision radius are taken into a cutscene emulating the games where Ayumi deduces all three of the opponents as the perpetrators, sending them all flying away. The attack does 5% more da age when any of the opponents has an item.
    I'm honestly shocked that Charizard wasn't playable starting with Smash 64, seeing as TPC love it so much.
    RetrogamerMax
    RetrogamerMax
    Well, Mewtwo was suppose to have been originally intended for 64 but cut due to time constraints. I would say Mewtwo or Charizard should have been in the first Smash instead of Jigglypuff, but she probably got in over them first because she was the 2nd most popular Pokemon in Japan at the time and she would be easier and faster to make due to being a very similar shape to Kirby. But it is crazy though that Charizard wasn't considered for 64 or Melee. Maybe Sakurai thought Charizard or the Pokemon Trainer wasn't one of his top priorities to add at the time. Maybe Charizard wasn't considered during 64 and Melee because he wasn't anywhere near the Melee poll: https://smashboards.com/threads/i-think-this-might-be-interesting-to-look-at-melee-1999-poll.81891/
    If I could add two bosses to Ultimate, it’d definitely be Ho-Oh and Grima. I know the former sounds weird since it’s not really a villain, but Rathalos isn’t necessarily a villain either.
    Who wants to bet that there are people at Nintendo who hate what their own company has been doing as of late, but can't speak out or else they'd look bad?
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