noradseven
Smash Lord
There was one but he kinda fell out.
So I'm happy japan is going back to its guns again.
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So I'm happy japan is going back to its guns again.
Supermodel From Paris
Smash Hero
This is my point. Masashi is campy, but he's not winning because he's campy or even flashy or aggressive. He's winning because he has very strong fundamentals and spacing. He's showing what Pit can do in the hands of a DSF/Azen/Dazwa-quality player.
lil cj
Smash Lord
DeliciousCake
Smash Lord
Fixed for great justice.Japan needs more Zero Suit cosplay!
lil cj
Smash Lord
She would be broken
and be even better than Fox!
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
ZSS with out crappy down air attack and a ftilit into dsmash combo? :O
noradseven
Smash Lord
Top tier, along with Fox, and Falco, and stuff, I don't think she would be banned.
I picked ZSS because she reminded me of sion a top tier in another fighter, whip, gun, stupid aireal flip kick thing, if ZSS has her cutting sync move though as well ZSS would be top tier, hands down.
Sorry, that's just always been a pet peeve of mine.
She doesn't do the thigh grab head stomp though :[
I see Ciel has that in AA though
Besides the point.
ThreeSided
Smash Ace
Hey guys. I found a little something fun. I realized that on stages where you can wall jump off the ledge (BF and Yoshi's), you can land a Bair while rising up. I just think that it's perfect for attacking high percentage opponents who are edge guarding. It's not as fast as Uair, but it's way more powerful, and it's always good to have more options. =)
Nefarious B
Smash Champion
This is good, I accidentally did this a couple days ago and didn't bother to post it. If only I could wall jump consistently, I only ever do it on accident.
ThreeSided
Smash Ace
It's pretty easy. It's easiest on BF. Just quickly drop from the edge, jump up towards the edge and into the stage, and immediately press the opposite direction. I can do it consistently about 9/10 times. Just make sure that you press the opposite direction immediately as you touch the edge, or it might not work. Also make sure you actually touch the stage side before trying the wall jump, or you'll just end up DIing away from the stage.
ThreeSided
Smash Ace
I'm not saying it's new, I'm just saying I just realized it. And our Bair is much more powerful than either CF or Falco (at least I'm pretty sure), and we don't have a sex-kick on it like falco, so it's faster and is less punishable.
I just realized fit. Gave me a new, awesome ledge option. =)
I've done this forever on all stages with a hard platform, but I haven't found a way to replicate it 100% of the time. It'd definitlely be a useful component to add to our games,
ThreeSided
Smash Ace
Yayz. I feelz helpful. =D
FadedImage
Smash Journeyman
Welcome back Adapt.. d:
on an unrelated note,
I think buffering is the new L-Cancel. it might not be as useful, but it definitely opens up a lot of possibilities. We should definitely keep chuggin' away at the buffering stuff.
on an unrelated note,
I think buffering is the new L-Cancel. it might not be as useful, but it definitely opens up a lot of possibilities. We should definitely keep chuggin' away at the buffering stuff.
What have I done...?
I'm disappointed.
Edit: I still use Peach really well, but she's not going to be any help to me against most characters. I do better against her counters (except Olimar) with Pit. I dunno...
Mario is insanely fun.
MK is for casual lol friendlies, I guess.
Who do you secondary and for what matchups?
Nefarious B
Smash Champion
/hilarity does not ensue
/cue dazwa looking for blood
the lolis were out in full force tonight guys, good work
/cue dazwa looking for blood
the lolis were out in full force tonight guys, good work
Supermodel From Paris
Smash Hero
~ 10 reasons I love ~
~ ZSS. This deserves its ~
~ own thread but, oh well. ~
~ ZSS. This deserves its ~
~ own thread but, oh well. ~
1. Most difficult character to chain grab
2. No one infinites
3. Most difficult (or perhaps second most) character to gimp
4. Has chain grabs on good characters
5. Has infinite on high tier character
6. Buffering makes her cheese
7. Convenient match-ups
8. BEWBZ
9. Whips and Chains
10. Best Fsmash in the game
Also:
Awwww yea
noradseven
Smash Lord
Tell that to falco.
~ARES
Smash Apprentice
I'll call Jon.
Are my down-B's out of Falco's CG just him messing up then? I seem to escape a lot. Sure, he can punish if he baits the down-B, but better than the chain tbh...
Not that it makes Falco much better of a match-up for us, anyway.
~ARES
Smash Apprentice
Ah, well.
I see you live in Columbus... I go there sometimes to visit some buddies of mine. :D
edit: Playing Marth a lot, probably got confused. I think. Dolphin slash is sexy. :embarrass
I see you live in Columbus... I go there sometimes to visit some buddies of mine. :D
edit: Playing Marth a lot, probably got confused. I think. Dolphin slash is sexy. :embarrass
3Side, I had meant I had thought it was known here already by everyone as common knowledge. Wasn't trying to say "this is old....useless" or anything like that.
Zero, ask the Falcos or Falcons on how to do it, they're masters at it.
SFP, I feel like ZSS is a bit easier to gimp than thaaaatt. I mean yeah its hard, but certainly not in the top 2 IMO. MK, Wario, Snake, ROB, Kirby, Jiggz...those are all pretty hard to gimp. Note, when I say gimp, I don't mean edgeguard (because otherwise you'll probably bring up about how ROB and Snake are easily edgeguarded, which they are). When I say gimp, I mean knocking the opponent just out of recovery range.
But we all know Link is the hardest to gimp. He's so broken, he doesn't even have a recovery range.
Zero, ask the Falcos or Falcons on how to do it, they're masters at it.
SFP, I feel like ZSS is a bit easier to gimp than thaaaatt. I mean yeah its hard, but certainly not in the top 2 IMO. MK, Wario, Snake, ROB, Kirby, Jiggz...those are all pretty hard to gimp. Note, when I say gimp, I don't mean edgeguard (because otherwise you'll probably bring up about how ROB and Snake are easily edgeguarded, which they are). When I say gimp, I mean knocking the opponent just out of recovery range.
But we all know Link is the hardest to gimp. He's so broken, he doesn't even have a recovery range.
noradseven
Smash Lord
I love gimping peopel with link though his f-air off stage will gimp at like30-40% on alot of people.
~ARES
Smash Apprentice
#8 is why I started playing her. And d-smash d-smash bair is too gratifying to a noob like me.
#8 is also why I still do.
Nefarious B
Smash Champion
If we can't get out Marth can't get out. We're lighter and both have frame 1 invincibility. If Falco does his CG right neither can get out.
Supermodel From Paris
Smash Hero
No one complimented my mad haiku skillz.
Violent-nin
Smash Ace
ZSS is just too much of fun character, how can you not use her.
Adapt
Smash Lord
Thanks
That's an interesting way of looking at it... and I agree, several discoveries have been made lately with the help of buffered commands.
btw... ZSS is nowhere near hardest to gimp.
MK, Jiggs, Rob, Kirby, Pika, GaW, DDD, and Sonic are harder (just off the top of my head)
Budget Player Cadet_
Smash Hero
You forgot wario. Have fun gimping him if his bike isn't on the stage.
Have fun gimping him if his bike isn't on the stage.
Supermodel From Paris
Smash Hero
You guys are huge killjoys.
noradseven
Smash Lord
Yeah its hard unless you get a head tap :happydance:You forgot wario.