Zero Suit Samus Questions & Answers

[Supermodel From Paris]

I like Battlefield.

But otherwise ZSS doesn't really have any bad stages which usually just means her good stage is whatever her opponent is bad on. You usually end up CPing Rainbow Cruise or Brinstar, if the ban RC.

 

[quiKsilverItaly]

i like battlefield, too. i always pick bf with zss and samus, but if the enemies know, they ban.
i am searching a real counterpick-stage, i also like brinstar, should test it even more. rc is often in europe banned.
i've read pokemon stadium 1 should be nice, but i dont get it, why it is on zss favour.
and another time i read lylat cruise would be good, but imo i hate this stage, cause the tilts are bad to control cause the ground is moving ;(

 

[Dakpo]

Depends on your match up, Zss really excels on FD. Thats generally were you want to take MK

 

[MdrnDayMercutio]

I will occasionally use FSmash in doubles, with the right sitation.

People forget it exists, and the range of it and it can occasionally hit both charging parties, or at least force shields on the front and hit the one behind you cause people never remeber it hits back there. Plus the rear hit box is practically a pop up so you can work with that.

But that is a rare situation that it'll work and I wouldn't try it against some players.

 

[Deathfox30]

Am I doing the infinite right? D:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOSnZmRaSo4

 

[Dakpo]

Looks a tad slow at the end, but i may be wrong. Make sure you set computers in training mode to walk. If you can do that , then you got it down. Here is a match with me doing it.

Vs Red Halberd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNlVGOf6BWI

Vs ADHD (first match only)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YVW2mtUVOU

 

[Deathfox30]

I think it's because I pivoted when I picked up the banana towards the end. The training mode tip was really helpful, I've almost got it down perfectly now. :3

 

[Dakpo]

Great to hear

 

[Tesh]

How good is double ZSS in teams? Horrible? Amazing? Meh?

Any awesome tricks I should know?

Whats ZSS best partners?

 

[Dakpo]

double zss is lulz, the problem with it is mainly the fact she has long spacing tools. Another issue is that usually the players play styles collide which amplify the normal disadvantages...for more info, take this question to the Zss question and answer thread

 

[Dakpo]

just checking...dis
this

 

[Tesh]

double zss is lulz, the problem with it is mainly the fact she has long spacing tools. Another issue is that usually the players play styles collide which amplify the normal disadvantages...for more info, take this question to the Zss question and answer thread

??????

This is the Q&A thread..... right?

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

....


It is.
wtf

 

[Dakpo]

lol was a joke guys, see the time and date XD

EDIT:sorry, thats when smashboards was hit the black plague

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Ahhhhh you got me.

 

[FEAR977]

What can Zss do on pokemon stadium 2? Does she have any tricks or anything like that?

 

[Zero]

She can **** anyone without a stall-fall aerial/way to returning to the ground quickly on the wind part.

 

[PEACE7]

I need some set ups with the armor pieces because I just usually just throw one piece down one up and glidetoss the other one up I want to be able to make them last as much as possible and have more setups in mind any ideas?

 

[Zero]

glide toss up approach > try to get around them to bair them into the piece > dsmash > x

Salem has it in his death combo video and while I think the dB meteor is very situational and greedy and won't work anyway the concept behind it is solid and very rewarding.

air toss down > catch > land

An effective mixup that leaves your shield nigh unpunishable.

while in air, z catch a grounded item > glide toss

A safe way to grab an armour piece and immediately attack/escape from a sticky situation.

Be creative.

 

[ccst]

Hello Zero Suit Samus boards; just a question. What do you think about the R.O.B. MU and why? Thanks in advance!

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Learn the infinite ;3

 

[Dakpo]

this match up really fun for us. We can juggle rob all day and essentially beat hit recover options. Way in our favor, even without the infinite

 

[FEAR977]

Can smoeone give me tips on the d3 mu. I've been having trouble lately and I figured asking about it may help. So...any tips?

 

[Zero]

Hold shield and wait for him to hit it, then grab him.

Don't approach unless you have to.

Watch out for autocancelled dair, it's pretty g.

Don't sideB much.

 

[NickRiddle]

Hold shield and wait for him to hit it, then grab him.

Don't approach unless you have to.

Watch out for autocancelled dair, it's pretty g.

Don't sideB much.

You can punish Waddle throws with side-b. Just make sure they aren't Gordos.

 

[ccst]

this match up really fun for us. We can juggle rob all day and essentially beat hit recover options. Way in our favor, even without the infinite

That sounds true. Agreeing with 35:65 R.O.B.'s disadvantage?

 

[Dakpo]

i could agree to that

 

[BioDG]

A couple questions to fellow seasoned zero suits:

1. Jab1-2 cancelling to Jab1: I know this isn't some kind of top-priority option, but on the same coin, how would you rate its usefulness? While training the other day, I noticed I don't think about mixing-up my jabs to use this as one of my options. I know she isn't Ike, so I figured it wouldn't be that great of an option...but after doing it a few times, I'm having second thoughts.

2. Dash Attack: What's the usual strategy when you guys use this move? I know it's really good when it's unpredictable, but I have noticed it has been responsible for most of my punishment in matches.

Can smoeone give me tips on the d3 mu. I've been having trouble lately and I figured asking about it may help. So...any tips?

That picture in your sig looks like...you're going to get punished. o_O

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

In my guide I will directly address both of these issues, but basically:

dash attack is useful for how it affects opponents after it connects. It is a high-risk, high-reward combo starter that can put opponents off-stage or in bad positions. It's mostly a punisher though, and using it as an approach is a really bad idea.

Jab1-Jab1 is really hilarious and combos once or twice on some light weights until they DI any direction lol, but beyond that isn't a very good idea.

 

[BioDG]

Ah, thank you for that Dash Attack insight. I knew there was something strange about my application of it...

 

[Kuro~]

Hey i have a question, i went into yalls "in depth statistics on attacks" thread.

Total Frames: 35
Hitbox out on Frame: 20

So that means there's 15 frames of cooldown between when the move hits and when she can move again?

 

[Zero]

yes 10elementarymaths

 

[FEAR977]

Can someone give me a list of all or most of zss's true combos?

 

[NickRiddle]

Can someone give me a list of all or most of zss's true combos?

This is Brawl.
With the lack of hitstun, as well as SDI/DI, there aren't really combos.
She has an f-throw CG on some characters. There's a thread about it somewhere in here.
D-smash lock.
D-smash > anything.
...
Everything else is basically DIable.

 

[FEAR977]

That's what I thought, but the fox boards have a list of all of their true combos. So I thought maybe we had some.

 

[F A N G]

What can ZSS to do Ness/Lucas out of Grab Release?

 

[NickRiddle]

What can ZSS to do Ness/Lucas out of Grab Release?

Air-release CG on Lucas with a guaranteed air-release.

Out of ground release... anything faster than 10 frames.
Mostly d-tilt.

 

[Susi]

Did anyone know about paralyzer shot locking abitities? It looks so weird.

I found out few weird and funny things yesterday, just cant remember them anymore <_<.

 

[Deathfox30]

Did anyone know about paralyzer shot locking abitities? It looks so weird.

Yup. There's a string on Falco with it. "Nair3" > paralyzer > w/e We should probably be abusing it more on BF to lock people we force edge slips on but oh well.

 

[Nefarious B]

Yup. There's a string on Falco with it. "Nair3" > paralyzer > w/e We should probably be abusing it more on BF to lock people we force edge slips on but oh well.

I've pulled it off a couple times, it's easiest if you do a falling fair from SH to knock them off the plat in my experience.