Yeah, while reading through, I believe BSL asked me what happened to my upcoming post. Well, thing is, I just went to bed before redoing it. =p
@Swiss: Ah, but I think you missed the main point of it all. What I was getting at is that I think you might have changed your posting style so to avoid me being able to read you (or at the very least, make it harder for me to). You see, I'm not used to you posting like this, so it's harder for me to read you posting like this, if that makes sense. Your posting style isn't relavent on your alignment, you're right about that. It's the fact that you CHANGED your posting style that bothers me.
You just trying out a new playstlye is believable, but I still see the possiblity of hidden motives here.
Btw, for those not in the know, Swiss usually posts in a much more obnoxious style. He purposely leaves out words, has bad grammer, and extremly strong reactions. He's definitly a lot more calm in this game, with a cleaner style of posting.
@Adagio and Swiss: Swiss, early in your 123 you asked me to take a hard stance against Bking. Adagio has asked me who the play is today. I guess I'll knock out two birds with one stone, because I believe Bking should be the play toDay. I hate Bking's play so far. He's jumpy, illogical, and contradictory. I also get the impression that this guy is trying to buddy me and others, which I will address in latter paragraphs. This guy has been playing just an anti-town game up until this point that I feel that he has to go. At the very least, it's way too dangerous to keep this guy around until endgame.
First of all, he's jumpy. I don't know if I really have to address this too much, since I'm sure most of everyone playing this game would agree with me. His 73 was the best example of this, and in general this guy has been so touchy about everything.
He's illogical. Once again, I don't really think I should waste too much time talking about, since most of everyone can see what I mean. He's been throwing stuff around without any real solid support. I pretty much address this up ahead, in my upcoming paragraphs.
He's contradicary. I have two examples of this. The first one is the issue in which he bandwagoned with me. This has kinda already been dealt with, so I won't go over it again.
The other example exists inbetween his posts 86 and his 159:
No offense, but if you don't like it, then I'm sorry. What would you do if you were backed into a corner? I lash out. That's just me, and it showed.
Self-meta, which I dislike by itself, but besides that in this post he implies enough experiance to have a distinat playstyle. However, in his 159:
Excuse me for being a noob. I had to find my way around this game, thats why you think I roll with what town rolls, which I dont, certainly not now. I have been solid, I have some support, and my solidity will grow as my questions get answered.
Ignoring the fact that he played the noobcard for now (which I dislike as much as I dislike self-meta), here he implies newbiness. So, he's experianced enough to know his playstyle, but not experianced enough just to take some stances (which I believe BSL was accusing him on and he was addressing). I sense him flip flopping, playing to whatever he thinks is safest.
Btw, to get this out of the way, I dislike self-meta because it's easy to frabicate, since a lot of the time there is no way to proof it. Anyone can say that they always play a certain way in a certain situation, and thus are of a certain alignment. It's too easy of a defense which doesn't provide any real solide evidance behind it.
I dislike the noob card for, more or less, the same reason. Too easy of a defense with no real way to proove it.
Also, this guy has been buddying me hardcore! His 148 and 139 are great examples of this. It's not even the fact that he finds me townie (town reads are, of course, perfectly fine), but it's more so that I get the impression from him that he's trying to hide behind me from Swiss. First, lets start with his 139:
It makes you out to be a wolf for eliminating town. You very much are at this point because you are starting to sound desparate now since you lost support from Sword.
How do you, Bking, get the impression that I ever supported Swiss? I know that, later on, you said that you sensed a "tone of camraderie" from me to Swiss, but I really don't see it. If he's talking about that friendly "bro talk" that I had with him earlier on, then that's nothing. How could it be so, when at that point in the game there was nothing to support him on? I think you kinda just made up this support I had for Swiss as a case against him.
Now that's really suspicious. I never thought you would crack that easily, Swiss, especially talking about one of your best supporters so far on Day 1. Do you instantly blame people as scum when you get called out for suspicion? And why a newer style of posting?
Here's what bothers me so much about Bking. He's trying to make it Sworddancer vs. Swiss rather then him vs. Swiss. I never really supported Swiss, and I don't believe there really is any sufficent evidance to support the notation that I supported Swiss. That said, Swiss has neither gained nor lost support from me.
Now on to his 148:
How do you know it was directly because of a prod dodge? If you actually stopped being lazy and read earlier posts, you would exactly know what I'm talking about. I inferred that Swords was voluntarily supporting your causes early on in Day 1 based on how his word choices showed a tone of camraderie between you two. As for Jumpman, even though he has been neutral so far in Day 1, his posts have substance, and he has given his honest opinion when asked. The problem is, Swiss, that you're getting fed up with Jumpman, so you keep attacking him with irrelevant and frankly, idiotic questions that basically lead nowhere, and he ended up making you look stupid. I know that's what you're apparently supposed to do in this game, but there's a right way, and a wrong way to go about it, and you're definitely going the wrong way.
Here, not only does he defend me, but he also defends Jumpman. It's important to note that he's defending him from swiss, supporting my idea that he's trying to win people over improperly. There's nothing wrong with trying to win support (afterall, how else would we lynch anyone?). It's just the way that he's going about it that's super scummy though. It appears to me that he's trying to get other people to fight his battle (even Sworddancer disagrees with you Swiss! You're attacking Jumpman for bad reasons, and they're fed up with it! Player X is not on you're side Swiss! ect.).
First of all, BSL seems harmless. Even though he was RSV'ing his first vote, he took a step back because his humor wasn't translating across the town. Second, once again, here is your desparation to eliminate me sticking out like a sore thumb. You can't sway these people that easily. I hope you realize that.
Just another example I noticed, this time of him defending BSL.
Here in his 159, he speaks in a gentle tone (compared to Swiss) to BSL, despite him taking a hard stance against him:
I don't understand, J and Phantom are technically different people, correct? I meant to say that it was up to you guys to figure out if J/Phantom was suspicious for not posting often enough, and that I believed it should be looked into further, that's what I meant by "to keep it in the back of your minds", so someone could question J later on. It wouldn't be enough to lynch regardless. I apologize if it sounded like I distanced myself. I assumed you guys would figure out my stance clearly, but from this game, I've learned that idioms and puns and sarcasm doesn't carry well here, and you can't infer stuff either.
Samething in his 139, but this time to me:
First, what is OMGUS?? Me "jumping" has already been established and is over with now. If you haven't read the top part of this long post, then the reason I bandwagoned with you for my first vote was what you described what Adagio was doing at that time. I see now that was a mistake. And why didn't you make yourself clear, Sword? What is your opinion on Adagio now, up to this point?
To answer your question, I'm getting a slight town read out of Adagio now. It's still reletively early, and anything can happen. It was my mistake not making myself clearer, so I apolize for that.
So in conclusion, BKing should be lynched toDay. Now, despite EVERYTHING I just said against him, I will admit to the possibility that Bking is just a newbie town. However, that excuse isn't going to cut it for me, as you could apply it to seven of the players in this game. Bking should not be kept around long at all, he's actng too scummy for the reasons above and thus will be dangerous to keep around (just because his alignment is always going to be questioned all game at this rate, and unless he pulls a complete 180 soon, I don't see that changing).
@Jumpman: How is being suspicious any different from being scummy? Explain why being suspicious doesn't mean scummy.
If you get flagged by a guy and he goes "Hey jack*ss! Help me find I98!", how would you react. I am not a hindrance to the town.
The thing is, you are a huge hindrance to town. Put your pride on the side, you're taking things way too personally. By refusing to take stances (which you had done a lot so far) it appears that you're trying to hide something, and that you're trying to avoid slipping. I would vote you, if it wasn't for the fact that I'm happy with my vote on Bking right now.
Play more like your 191 please (where you gave a clear stance).
@Gova: When I voted Skyler for inactivity, J wasn't really inactive (sure, he had less posts than Skyler, but he just replaced in). At this point in the game, I would definitly considering him inactive. However, right now I also I have a lot better leads than J. J is just inactive, and inactivity really isn't much of a lead at all. Heavily pursuing him really won't hold much weight, because he won't respond.
Idk why people are saying I'm inactive. This is probably one of my better games for activity (you guys are just going to have to trust me on this one). Besides, I contribute a lot when I post, and I'll say that's what matters the most.
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This post took some time to make and is quite long, so I appolize ahead of time for any spelling or gramerical mistakes I made.
? Sorry I can't post all the time but I do have real life things to do as well. You're calling me out on nothing since I've been posting a lot of substance the entire game, just not as frequently as some people.