Steam
Smash Hero
GW is a character that thrives completely on bull****. sometimes I feel like a doorknob could play that character decently well >.>
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YGD - As the snow melts, the mighty Dinosaur rises once more!
- Thread starter Delta-cod
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Mr. game and watch
Smash Master
Play shaq fu instead.
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
lol, GW is my least favorite character in the game and I hate playing against him. I'd say GW is easily my second hardest personal MU as well, even though I really havent lost to any GW players.
Steam
Smash Hero
I've never taken a set from the GW main ranked 5th in CO.... he always gets some DUMB **** that saves him... sad thing is he gets saved by ****y stuff like that in every set.
Depster
Smash Champion
Really? Maybe it's because I love him, but I've haven't had a hard time vs. GnW in forever.
Mr. game and watch
Smash Master
Stop talking about me
NinjaFoxX
Banned via Warnings
aint that matchup bad for yoshi anyway? (only like 4-6 tho, mayyyybe 3-7 dependin on who you ask...)
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
GW is a -1 for Yoshi. I personally think it's -2 but that smy personal bias/hate/dislike/etc of the MU.
Mr. game and watch
Smash Master
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
Get a name change :D
NinjaFoxX
Banned via Warnings
speaking of name change, i should see if premium is up
Mr. game and watch
Smash Master
But it's like at this point Im known as G&W. Meh
Change Name
Get New Name
Wait Few months
???
Profit?
Get New Name
Wait Few months
???
Profit?
D
Deleted member
Guest
G&W is even at worst i think.
He cant kill or approach yoshi at all.
He wins on wifi thats it.
He cant kill or approach yoshi at all.
He wins on wifi thats it.
He wins against a Yoshi who isn't patient too.
NinjaFoxX
Banned via Warnings
good thing i turtle like a boss.
too bad that lets aggressive Marths **** me...e.e
too bad that lets aggressive Marths **** me...e.e
D
Deleted member
Guest
Yea yoshi has to be really really really patient. But if you know G&W's options (i play him pretty well so i know what he doesnt like), its really tough for game and watch because eggs are like the perfect speed for limiting his options. Yoshi cant really kill G&W without a good read either, so its really gonna be chip damage from yoshi until you get a nice read or down b, and chip+juggles from G&W until he gets a hard read. His hard reads hurt, but if you are just really patient and dont get into spots where he can make those reads (aka, stay the fk away from him), you should be able to live forever. Fair is G&Ws best kill move in that its fast, but if you understand G&W you can kinda know when its coming.
I would pick up the character for a few days if you have trouble and just see what makes him not a great character.
I would pick up the character for a few days if you have trouble and just see what makes him not a great character.
Delta-cod
Smash Hero
Socks pretty much nailed it. GnW is definitely even at worst.
Mr. game and watch
Smash Master
0.0
No joke, until delta said socks, I though his name was burnSTocks.
Man I'm good.
No joke, until delta said socks, I though his name was burnSTocks.
Man I'm good.
D
Deleted member
Guest
everybody thinks that at first for some reason
Depster
Smash Champion
Pivot grabbing: All day every day.
Delta-cod
Smash Hero
It's cuz some people call you Stocky.
Yika, we should be looking at the higher levels anyways, where GnW hasn't really proven a problem for Yoshi.
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
From my experience, Yoshi's problems are Falco and people of a higher skill level than you lol.
NinjaFoxX
Banned via Warnings
i can deal with Falco's if i just gay it up enough and dodge the laserspam.
same with lolMarth, i just hate that 1 mistake and i eat like 30-50%(hes like falco with no laser)
same with lolMarth, i just hate that 1 mistake and i eat like 30-50%(hes like falco with no laser)
Mr. game and watch
Smash Master
We need to make a new guide without polt.
I don't wanna commit to it, but I'd love to have it get done. And help in any way.
Delta could cover effective camping, Zz could cover egg lay/roll shenanigans, Socks could cover like different MUs and stuff. IDK.
I just wish we had a new guide. We can always steal tidbits of the last guide of course.
I don't wanna commit to it, but I'd love to have it get done. And help in any way.
Delta could cover effective camping, Zz could cover egg lay/roll shenanigans, Socks could cover like different MUs and stuff. IDK.
I just wish we had a new guide. We can always steal tidbits of the last guide of course.
Sharky
Smash Master
I do feel a revamp is in order. Polt's officially useless, so I won't even bother trying to get him to write anything this time around. Over the week I'm going to start checking out vids and seeing who I want to pull what from.
edit: new sections I want to add:
controlling space/zoning - will include karamity zone
dash grab spacing (I'll just like to delta's thread or quote the important bits idk)
juggling/how to manage aerial opponents/bait airdodges
practical uses of dr
gib moar ideas!
edit: new sections I want to add:
controlling space/zoning - will include karamity zone
dash grab spacing (I'll just like to delta's thread or quote the important bits idk)
juggling/how to manage aerial opponents/bait airdodges
practical uses of dr
gib moar ideas!
Sharky
Smash Master
oh yes definitely =D
When not to use B-reverses...
Mr. game and watch
Smash Master
Effective camping, effective approaching.
Ledge and Item gimmicks.
Most important AT's.
Someone make a new video for DR because bigman40's isn't working so meh.
Ledge and Item gimmicks.
Most important AT's.
Someone make a new video for DR because bigman40's isn't working so meh.
Most were said earlier. They're just the more broad aspect of them. Not only that, but you don't want to rely on gimmicks. They're not going to help that much in the long run.
Bigman40 quit the game. Dunno why he took it down though since he had a fairly good tutorial of it back then.
Bigman40 quit the game. Dunno why he took it down though since he had a fairly good tutorial of it back then.
I'm getting a kick out of this.
D
Deleted member
Guest
scatz originally called me stocky because people called me burnstocks xD
so the problem doesnt originate there
also, ZZ, just admit you need to get better at the falco matchup and stop saying yoshi gets ***** by falco.
I think if we looked at current level yoshi would be +1 vs G&W. I cant think of a good yoshi losing to a good G&W, only the opposite.
so the problem doesnt originate there
also, ZZ, just admit you need to get better at the falco matchup and stop saying yoshi gets ***** by falco.
I think if we looked at current level yoshi would be +1 vs G&W. I cant think of a good yoshi losing to a good G&W, only the opposite.
Delta-cod
Smash Hero
Guide Ideas:
Spacing/Zoning - You can just use my thread, I guess. This is really important and needs to be discussed.
DR - It's application to zoning should definitely be looked into. It's why I've decided to start working DR into my game.
Item Play - PLEASE YES HELP WITH THIS I SUCK WITH ITEMS AND AGAINST DIDDY.
Momentum - How to carry it and learning when to stop. (Includes juggling + pseudo combos).
Recovery - General tactics, safety, mixup options, ledge tricks
Spacing/Zoning - You can just use my thread, I guess. This is really important and needs to be discussed.
DR - It's application to zoning should definitely be looked into. It's why I've decided to start working DR into my game.
Item Play - PLEASE YES HELP WITH THIS I SUCK WITH ITEMS AND AGAINST DIDDY.
Momentum - How to carry it and learning when to stop. (Includes juggling + pseudo combos).
Recovery - General tactics, safety, mixup options, ledge tricks
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Deleted member
Guest
Maybe how to approach/mixups?
Delta-cod
Smash Hero
I feel like teaching the idea behind creating mixups is better than simply listing mixups, although a small list of easy mixups, like the relationship of Dash Grab/Charged Usmash, would be good to have.