YGD - As the snow melts, the mighty Dinosaur rises once more!

[Sharky]

I won against a Marth yesterday! 2:1 lost the first, 2-stocked the second (unnecessary bad DI and some point) and won the last due timeout 182% to 178% !

yeeeessssssssss

Really? I find Yoshi's ledge-options at 100+% to be better than the ones he has when he is less than 100%. His get-up attack has invincibility until the hitbox comes out and does 12% (which is a lot for a get-up attack), and his roll has invincibility until like the last 4-5 frames or something (even if it is slower).

noooooooooooo.

LedgeDR makes your day!

yeeeeeeeeessssssssssssss

 

[Z'zgashi]

Guys, im gonna play some kirby over wifi this week. I plan on hitting him with one egg then scrooging the whole game. I'll tell you if it works.

 

[Chuee]

Just hope you dont mess up and lose your stock.

 

[Yikarur]

Ledgedrop > DJ > Fair for flashy factor

back double jump to B-reverse egg lay is much flashier ;o

 

[Z'zgashi]

back double jump to B-reverse egg lay is much flashier ;o

Tusche....

 

[Poltergust]

invincibility for get-up options are not that important, important is the duration.
Get-up Roll is the worst option I've ever seen, it's just a very crippled movement and it gives the opponent tons of time to react, it's almost impossible to not get hit out of it.

I'm not saying that these are the best options you can do, but they are still usable. I really only do these like 2-3 times per match maximum. So, my opponent usually doesn't expect these.

Also, with the 100+% ledge-roll, my opponent usually hits me when my invincibility frames are still active. The invincibility lasts for such a long time on that move.

EDIT:

Ledgeroll (>100%)
Invincibility: 1-60
Ends: 79
Ledge Occupied: 1-32

A full second of invincibility is quite significant and can sometimes throw people off.

 

[Yikarur]

Tusche....

you suck for not speaking in a language I understand. and It's touché!

 

[Z'zgashi]

And that's why I'm majoring in computer technology, not english

 

[SOVAman]

My Redskins baby ;D

 

[Chuee]

back double jump to B-reverse egg lay is much flashier ;o

imo ledgedrop to egg throw is flashiest.

 

[Shiri]

Get outta here, Beezy LOLLLLLLLL

 

[Sharky]

I'm not saying that these are the best options you can do, but they are still usable. I really only do these like 2-3 times per match maximum. So, my opponent usually doesn't expect these.

Also, with the 100+% ledge-roll, my opponent usually hits me when my invincibility frames are still active. The invincibility lasts for such a long time on that move.

EDIT:



A full second of invincibility is quite significant and can sometimes throw people off.

19 frames is quite a long time to not get punished, though. If they are hitting you during the invincibility, then they clearly haven't learned that aspect of yoshi well enough. =/

 

[indigestible_wad]

And that's why I'm majoring in computer technology, not english

Touche isn't english. lol

Although now that I think about it, I'm not one hundred percent sure which language we borrowed it from, although I've narrowed it down to one of romantic descent, specifically french or italian. But I may be completely off on that one. Though I can't think of any languages that have the hash above vowels that aren't romantic, at least not indo-european. Eh, slavic.

I'm not an engish major either. Geology.

 

[VSC.D-Torr]

American English sucks.

 

[SOVAman]

My Skins baby


don't fuxz

 

[VSC.D-Torr]

It's easy to beat a team when they lose a great QB.

It's easier to beat a team when they lost two.

LOL @ Kevin Kolb

 

[Z'zgashi]

Touche isn't english. lol

Although now that I think about it, I'm not one hundred percent sure which language we borrowed it from, although I've narrowed it down to one of romantic descent, specifically french or italian. But I may be completely off on that one. Though I can't think of any languages that have the hash above vowels that aren't romantic, at least not indo-european. Eh, slavic.

I'm not an engish major either. Geology.

I didn't major in italian either

My Skins baby


don't fuxz

Yeah... stupid redskins

Spoiler

likes cowboys =(

 

[SOVAman]

If you are really a Cowboys fan you would be happy we won right now because the Eagles were in first place

SCRUB *** FOOTBALL FAN RIGHT HURRRRRRRRRR

 

[Poltergust]

19 frames is quite a long time to not get punished, though. If they are hitting you during the invincibility, then they clearly haven't learned that aspect of yoshi well enough. =/

True, but that's why you use it sparingly. It can become useful in certain situations.

 

[Scarlet Jile]

Touché is French you clowns.

 

[Deleted member]

I just read this touche convo...and my IQ dropped several points

 

[NinjaFoxX]

lol wtf is french?

 

[Poltergust]

Hey guys, check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG7mu4_JLzE

I think this is pretty cool. I really want to see how Yoshi's hurtbubbles act relative to his attacks. Can anyone get this done?

 

[Z'zgashi]

If that download he gave works with all characters, I'd be happy to

 

[Sharky]

do not want to be biking to work in 45 minutes >.>

 

[Airborne]

Touché is French you clowns.

Jile tellin' like it is.

I just read this touche convo...and my IQ dropped several points

Really? It made me feel better about myself.

Hey guys, check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG7mu4_JLzE

I think this is pretty cool. I really want to see how Yoshi's hurtbubbles act relative to his attacks. Can anyone get this done?

I think we all already know that there's going to be this basketball shaped hurtbox the size of Bowser where his nose would be located.

 

[Poltergust]

I think we all already know that there's going to be this basketball shaped hurtbox the size of Bowser where his nose would be located.

lol So true.

Still, I'd like to see how his up-smash/f-smash/dash attack work. If his head is truly invincible his hurtbubbles should turn blue in that area (like how MK's hurtbubbles turned blue when he Shuttle Looped).

 

[Z'zgashi]

I think we all already know that there's going to be this basketball shaped hurtbox the size of Bowser where his nose would be located.

Im not gonna lie, I was thinking the same thing. Ill try it when I get home. So... an hour or so.

 

[Chuee]

With such a big nose, Yoshi must have super smell.
*starts using wario's fart more against Yoshi*

 

[.Marik]

I just read this touche convo...and my IQ dropped several points

On the contrary, I suddenly feel better about myself.

*Edit* Airborne with that exact same post. Lulz.

 

[Sinister Slush]

lol So true.

Still, I'd like to see how his up-smash/f-smash/dash attack work. If his head is truly invincible his hurtbubbles should turn blue in that area (like how MK's hurtbubbles turned blue when he Shuttle Looped).

Watching the video a day or two ago made me want to download the Media file and start taking a look at Yoshi's Hurt/Hit/Invincibility bubbles and most likely post images in a Topic.
Wondering if I should be doing this kind of (Research?) stuff so early when I don't have any frame data knowledge.

 

[Delta-cod]

You don't need frame data knowledge. You can look it up if you need. I don't have any memorized at all, really.

 

[Sinister Slush]

You don't need frame data knowledge. You can look it up if you need. I don't have any memorized at all, really.

I know you don't But basically for me, If I learn about one thing. I just have to learn it's component (Twin, Other etc.) to atleast know more stuff about whatever i'm learning.

 

[Poltergust]

You don't need frame data knowledge. You can look it up if you need. I don't have any memorized at all, really.

You don't? I know quite a bit of it.

Yoshi's jab and n-air come out in frame 3.
Yoshi's u-air comes out at frame 5.
Yoshi's f-tilt, d-smash, and down-B come out at frame 6.
Yoshi's d-tilt comes out at frame 8. I believe his b-air also comes out in frame 8.
Yoshi's pivot-grab comes out at frame 10 (or 11 if you count the actual pivot).
Yoshi's spot-dodge comes out in frame 2 and only has 3 total frames of vulnerability.

I basically memorized all of the quick options Yoshi has because it actually matters in CQC. :nerd:

 

[Depster]

http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/94051?fp=1

Somebody seriously needs to make an MK texture with this guy's face.

 

[Delta-cod]

You don't? I know quite a bit of it.

Yoshi's jab and n-air come out in frame 3.
Yoshi's u-air comes out at frame 5.
Yoshi's f-tilt, d-smash, and down-B come out at frame 6.
Yoshi's d-tilt comes out at frame 8. I believe his b-air also comes out in frame 8.
Yoshi's pivot-grab comes out at frame 10 (or 11 if you count the actual pivot).
Yoshi's spot-dodge comes out in frame 2 and only has 3 total frames of vulnerability.

I basically memorized all of the quick options Yoshi has because it actually matters in CQC. :nerd:

Would you like a cookie?

When someone's in my face, I'm not thinking about the ****ing amount of frames it'll take to throw out an attack. I'm thinking about what they're going to do, and how the **** I'm getting them out of my face. One frame RARELY matters, except in making guaranteed combos or CGs.

This is how I view movesets:

Really fast
Fast
Average
Slow
LOL GET ***** ON REACTION Slow

I don't really think frame data has practical application during a game. It's easy to tell what's faster than what in the first place.

Yep, I just raged at frame data. Get @ me.

 

[Deleted member]

Frame data only matters in relation to things coming out at the same time.
For example, knowing how fast jab is in comparison to other jabs is muchos importante.
Besides that, i dont think its important unless ur scatz

 

[Yikarur]

lol So true.

Still, I'd like to see how his up-smash/f-smash/dash attack work. If his head is truly invincible his hurtbubbles should turn blue in that area (like how MK's hurtbubbles turned blue when he Shuttle Looped).

you don't need that to know this, Yoshis upsmash/fsmash/dash attack nose is definitly intangible while the hitbox is out.

 

[Poltergust]

Yes, but I want to see how much of his body is actually invincible during the move. The nose is a given, but how far down his body does the invincibility extend?

 

[Sinister Slush]

Kay so.. watching this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmVMOij6HdM
And trying it out it got me use to DR but still didn't understand how to do it. A few minutes of trying and I noticed something.
Like Egglay. if you press Y(Jump) and B(Special) at the same time it shows he DJ'ed (Spirals) but you go down and use Egg lay. For DR it's like that but have to Press three buttons faster then DJC since you can do it anytime and still reverse the Egg lay.