Xonar is Bored aka Xonar's feedback and ranking thread

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Higurashi, G3S atm. I've read part of Britches n Hose and Walgreens too.

I'm not going to comment on unfinished games atm. And am very disappoint you would use them as reverence.

Britches n Hose and Higurashi are two of my worst performances on this site.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

You asked in which games we played together. I never said I'm using ongoings as reference.

Regardless, if you're experiencing inconsistency, why don't you work on that?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

The fact you mentioned those games tell me you did or are.

I'm well aware of that, but F being a sheep because I know that isn't one of my issues.

 

[Jim Morrison]

I can vouch for RR's disco games, he's not a sheep lol

 

[Evil Eye]

RR's not a sheep... he can be manipulated at times for sure but if anything I'd say he's too obstinate and sure of himself. RR might be the person I've played the most games with and I've read a whole bunch of his that I wasn't in as well. I think you're wrong here Xonar. RR is manipulable through stoking the fires the starts of his own accord, and a little bit by staying on his good side; that'll make him more willing to listen to what you have to say, but not all that much more willing to act on what you tell him to.

Also, yes, opinions, but I think it's fairly obvious your tier list hasn't added anything to the constructive validity of the rest of your thread. Never said it was the worst idea ever, either. I said it's harming the good possibilities of your thread. Like this conversation we're having about RR right now, which is basically just a much better version of the earlier critique thread. Well, as long as RR doesn't mind the attention, heh.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Hey EE, any comments on my play? We really should get a critique thread up and running again...

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I'll admit to being wrong here.

Sorry for underestimating you, Red Ryu. Stuff like that can happen.

Feel free to turn this into general critique.

 

[Evil Eye]

Honestly Nic I couldn't offer you any advice that wouldn't be extremely general (tunneling, blah blah **** you've heard a million times). I haven't played with you in a really long time... I think it might have been KiKi's All-Stars like a year back, and you were on the way out as I was replacing in, iirc. Not sure, I was hella lazy that game.

I'm going to spectate Tactics though starting this weekend so I'm sure I'll have some things to say when that one finishes. Obv you can't reply to this though, because no ongoing games (we really need to start being more stringent about that rule in this thread going forward). No spoilers via PM or anything either, I want a clean read on dis game.

I will say one thing, though. As town or scum, you need to figure out how to be more agreeable. The way you argue grinds against people, tonally and in execution. It's an understandable corner to get backed into, especially when you are certain you're right about something and people just won't give it the time of day and you're town (see: Time Travelers). It may sound ugly, but you need to be willing to make compromises in your movements so people will be more receptive. Ultimately, getting people to listen to you is the other half of mafia, and very important indeed.

A good example is mentos vs Ryker in Lost. Ryker was being his unhelpful self, Mentos wouldn't stand for it. Ryker didn't gaf. At least, publicly; and as town he wouldn't have. But, he was scum. And I certainly doubt it was this wasn't in the back of his mind when, later, and seemingly of his own accord (which would be his line of behavior as town), he decided to start scumhunting. And then mentos was chill with him. Little interactions like these are important as either alignment.

So, hell. If you're in a game with someone you've played with a lot, and you know what they want to see, give it to them. I'm not saying to bend over to their expectations, especially if they seem unreasonable. But you can present to them the facet they are most looking for. That might be confidence in your read and an unwillingness to engage said scum-read in an annoying debate, when you think you've got a bad guy DTR. Or it might be a visible expression of reasonable doubt, and then a well-layered explanation of why you are ignoring it. Everybody wants to see something from you if you expect them to listen. Give it to them without compromising your beliefs and you will improve.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I don't mind the comments on my play, the others Brosuke said like getting people to listen to me an gambits it true.

It was only the sheeping part I thought was really off.

Also Thanks for that EE.

 

[DtJ S2n]

I guess I'll let this be here, as long as you keep it cool and purely critical of mafia-play, as I'm sure you realize. Ryker/Joey, I'mma infract you so hard if you guys keep up the image spam and junk. Knock it off.

Discussing my own play because that's all I care about, you're probably a bit biased since I've played well in literally every game we've been in together. My real problem is that I need to learn to appeal my opinion, not my facts. Me and Ryker was a really fun hydra because all that guy does is shove his opinion around. I also have this problem of loving to take huge risks when it comes to power roles and fake claiming .

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

Lower-Mid: SangfroidWarrior

Awww. Oh, well. I know I need to improve a lot, and my gameplay has declined steadily since I started here. I know we haven't played much, but have you got any advice for me? Or how to improve?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Honestly, you are pretty inactive. If you need advice, ask J! He probably played most with you, and he's without a doubt one of the dGames powerhouses.

 

[#HBC | J]

Inactive? I never got that from Sang 'cept in AT but that was because of a pretty good reason. (college stuffs) Otherwise she is usually as uncannily active as I used to be. o_O

Though I has some stuffs for Sang the next times we see each others.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

You take an incredibly long time to reach conclusions.

 

[giraffelasergun]

I'm trying to figure out if I've ever played with you Brosuke but even if I haven't that doesn't change the fact that you have a really cool avatar. Also, I'm assuming you didn't put me in the tier list becuase everyone knows I'm the best mafia player ever and they'd be offended when I was three tiers above them.

Right?


Riiiight?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Never played with you. Sowwy

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Cool thread bronar, appreciate the advice and whatnot.

I do understand mafia and I do know how to play it, I've moved past gambits and if I'm in bad light a bit for utrickd2, I was just trying to play my role to the best of its ability.

Either way, the biggest improvement I need is motivation, because I like mafia, its fun, but god its so tiring to keep up with and post.

And when I do post, I feel I'm missing out on details so I might do a 180 in midpost, which is frustrating.

Any tips regarding that? Or is that going to be something I need to work on my own?

this is my first time seriously being here in a week. school ****s motivation.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I guess I'll let this be here, as long as you keep it cool and purely critical of mafia-play, as I'm sure you realize. Ryker/Joey, I'mma infract you so hard if you guys keep up the image spam and junk. Knock it off.

Discussing my own play because that's all I care about, you're probably a bit biased since I've played well in literally every game we've been in together. My real problem is that I need to learn to appeal my opinion, not my facts. Me and Ryker was a really fun hydra because all that guy does is shove his opinion around. I also have this problem of loving to take huge risks when it comes to power roles and fake claiming .

/sagenod
You're excellent scum because of that tendency though. You practically ran UTrick'd1 through subtle pushes rather than anything overt and kept a low profile. It's how you carried Roxxy's scrub *** to endgame and blew me up.

also if i change my avatar to skitty would you laugh or beat me over the head for making such a ****ty joke

(yes i realize that's wailmer and not wailord sue me)

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

also if i change my avatar to skitty would you laugh or beat me over the head for making such a skitty joke

(yes i realize that's wailmer and not wailord sue me)

fixed

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

As for myself (yay triple posts), I tend not to do more because of the players around me. Should I be one of the most vocal players to start the game (i.e., no ryker), I tend to try to command the game. The problem is, my reads are very erratic. There are some games where they're just on, but most of the time, I **** the bed if I have nothing to go off. This is generally why I don't try to lead too much unless I'm absolutely gogdamn sure of what I'm doing.

I'll give it a shot? I usually find myself in a pretty active position in a game, moreso than a passive one. You've just witnessed me mostly inactive or purposely taking a back seat.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I miss you still.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Bro, I miss you too.

 

[Swiss]

Gheb so mad.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

^ Saw that coming before the thread was even created.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

you predicted that through the powers of salt

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

He's a salt oracle.

 

[Axel]

Hi

X: Kataefi, Ryker
P: Vanderzant, Swiss, Kuzinator, EE, Zen (lolGheb)
F: X1-12, J, Gorf, Soupamario, WashedLaundry, Gheb_01, July , Circus, Sold2
D: Asdioh, SangfroidWarrior, Rockin, Ranmaru, Acrostic, Gova, JTB
L: BTL, Nicholas1024, Red_Ryu, Chibo, Giraffelasergun, Tery, Shadow Moth
K: Inferno, Dark Horse, Felipe, Panta

Top-Bottom / Left-Right

Spoiler

Unranked:
Hidden Message Hide
Frozen
Kantrip, Bardull,
Rajam
Nickelbackrocks
Brosuke
Overswarm
Omni
Glyph
Sokr
mentosman8
AsianAussie
Sephiroth,
Vlade
Chaco
Jim Morrison
KevinM
Sworddancer,
Raziek,
Auspher
T-block,
Frozenflame
Shadow Moth
Dabuz
Hilt
Adumbrodeus
John2k4
Werekill
Ori_bro
Armor
Seikend

Wow that list is amazingly accurate.

 

[#HBC | J]

I never get you and your lettering system. @_@

 

[Asdioh]

Zen's cute.

 

[Nicholas1024]

I thought that was Zen. My list would probably be (if you're not on this list, I probably just didn't remember you)

Top: EE, Overswarm, Tom and Frozenflame when active
High: Omni, Swiss, J, Vand, Cello, Kat, myself
Medium: Asdioh, Gheb, Adumb, X1, Zen, Inferno, most experienced players.
Low: Ryker, Frozenflame under most circumstances, most newbies.
Bottom: Rockin with a vigilante role, SwordsRBroken with a survivor role, town in Bad Idea Mafia.

I'm probably annoying a lot of people with this, but don't take it too hard. Keep in mind that it's my personal opinion, and a lot of players I haven't played with more than once or twice, perhaps I just saw you having one of your bad games.

 

[Axel]

That's actually not bad Nich.

Spoiler

No I'm kidding it is, but it's interesting to see other people's perspectives of everyone.

Anyone who gets annoyed with that is seriously insecure so don't worry about that.

I'd probably put Ryker, Vandy, Swiss in Kooz on a level below X and above P, and put J on the P-level. Cello would definitely go in X. Kataefi and Cello are the best dgames players of ALL TIME :Kanye:

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

X: Kataefi, Ryker
P: Vanderzant, Swiss, Kuzinator, EE, Zen (lolGheb)
F: X1-12, J, Gorf, Soupamario, WashedLaundry, Gheb_01, July , Circus, Sold2
D: Asdioh, SangfroidWarrior, Rockin, Ranmaru, Acrostic, Gova, JTB
L: BTL, Nicholas1024, Red_Ryu, Chibo, Giraffelasergun, Tery, Shadow Moth
K: Inferno, Dark Horse, Felipe, Panta

Top-Bottom / Left-Right

Spoiler

Unranked:
Hidden Message Hide
Frozen
Kantrip, Bardull,
Rajam
Nickelbackrocks
Brosuke
Overswarm
Omni
Glyph
Sokr
mentosman8
AsianAussie
Sephiroth,
Vlade
Chaco
Jim Morrison
KevinM
Sworddancer,
Raziek,
Auspher
T-block,
Frozenflame
Shadow Moth
Dabuz
Hilt
Adumbrodeus
John2k4
Werekill
Ori_bro
Armor
Seikend

Wow that list is amazingly accurate.

>Soup better than me

i'm caught between "are you ****ing serious" and "challenge accepted"

and that's not even including x1 >:v

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

One above Chibo?

You should read moderator mafia, no offense Chibo but that and Hentai really influenced my perception of your play in mafia.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Hahahahha moderator mafia

I wish we could share that game with DGames

 

[Dooms]

Thank god it's staying back there.

Thank goddddd...

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I can move it here btw, and I am tempted to with Amir's permission.

Though more so to share info on the set-up.

 

[Asdioh]

RR, move Disco Room Upick games back here.
EE never did it because he's 2lazy23movegames

 

[Dooms]

I can move it here btw, and I am tempted to with Amir's permission.

Though more so to share info on the set-up.

:sadface:.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Hahahahha moderator mafia

I wish we could share that game with DGames

I died N1 that game :|

 

[Jim Morrison]

You should read moderator mafia, no offense Chibo but that and Hentai really influenced my perception of your play in mafia.