1st Order of Business:
Pete278, you forgot to answer my question:
Per your
#103 you said you don't like letting people get to L-1 for pressuring townies. Can you elaborate? I know the reasons, but I'd like to know why you don't think so.
It was a kinda dodgy plan though as if I died, I wouldn't have told anyone.
are you happy with my replies Vyse?
They are fine. Your reads mostly agree with mine at that point in time, but I think I have much more solid reads on Moose and Arrow now.
well, with the slip of the tounge. I wrecked my own plan lol
I'm expecting mafia to kill you tonight Vyse (if you're town) because you're the most experienced. if they don't, suspicions rise. I can't use any of it now as I've posted it. so disregard it.
Tonight, Mafia have the
WIFOM of whether there is:
1. A town doctor/body guard/bus driver and...
2. Whether that doctor believes I'm town or not.
This truly is WIFOM at its best.
As for the case where I do survive to day 2, worry about it when it comes. All players should expect to feel the heat the next day after being on a wagon, or being a suspect that survived
well vyse if i was mafia, ide probably switch to a No lynch, trying to withhold info from the town.
I think this is a cop out answer. You said yourself in another post that everybody was unhappy with a no lynch and that a lynch will happen today. By that logic, Mafia should want to go with the idea of lynching someone.
Not only that, but you contradicted yourself.
In post
#153 you say the exact opposite!
well it would be a dumb move for mafia to be all no lynch.
when the previous game ended in one and upset people....
thats just one take on it. whether its true or not and whether i believe it or not is still to be determined.
Explanation please?
it was just a sugestion =P a when i said random vote.. we all kinda know its not. anything thats not can be traced back =P along with the night kill.. plus voting is evidence enough. not like last game where NO lynch was out and no ones "random" opinions surfaced.
That is fine.
and yeah summoner i am not really 2 fussed on day 1 not enough solid infomation to sway others with, so can afford to kill a townie for a starting point.
That's why we are creating information. From nothing, we have on record the opinions and voting patterns of all other players.
I feel that Pete278's actions are a tad conservative. I'd like to bring up this post:
While he is emphasising that he does have his suspicions, I think he is also taking the 'wait and see' approach to this day 1 much like Leisha. This gives me the impression that he wants Leisha lynched but is going to wait until he gets the last vote in case 'the mob get control of the hammer', which is something he supposedly does not want. I strongly suggest to take note whether he eventually votes Leisha, and if he does, whether he is in control of the hammer.
Good read. And I agreed until he
voted for Arrow where he concisely made his case based on contradictions.
HAY GUIZ.
How do I play this Mafia game? I was so bad at it last time.
I can understand everyone's eagerness to play the game, and I'm sure you all think that's a good thing.
But I want you to also remember that experience and eagerness to play does not equal town.
Although at this point in the game, I think it's fine, I urge other players to remember that we all have our own opinions, and to not let other players lead you down the wrong path because of their "experience".
While I really want to post a 'Cool Story Bro' picture, I think it's important that you all heed this and stop saying 'I don't wanna vote Vyse because he's eager and doesn't get to play with us much'.
Although, I'd like to point out that this same attitude lost Town the game in Rocky, where Moose and Arrow had the mafia pegged, but town was too tunnel visioned. Basically listen to what players have to say, but don't follow it blindly. Form your own opinions and cases, and if they match up, then take that as a good sign too.
yeah i am playing differently.
the game before set a precident for this one. hence why u using my behaviour change and hence why i said the mafia members are more likily to go for a vote.
also theres no rush. mafia could be rushing things being lead by summoner and vyse. there is no harm in THINKING -.-'
i want to vote. i stated it before the game started, i had my role.
why not liesha(sieg) or vyse?
i said that i felt liesha was more town than vyse.
and i felt sad to vote vyse off because he never plays with us. but if u telling me thats a bad enough reason not to vote for him.... then
Vote:Vyse
now theres gonna be suspicion cause i bandwagon -,- and probably a OMGUS vote from vyse
You are continually sweeping away the arguments being put down and telling town it's not trying to think.
Tell me, why did my original vote on Leisha hold little merit?
Think about your answer.
As for my overall reads on a few people:
LeishaSieg: Newbie Tells all over the place. But what really irks me is that Leisha didn't answer my question before she left, so I can't make a clear distinction between whether these tells truly are newbie ones. Now we're left with Sieg who doesn't seem to actually want to play or care about the game.
Moose: I believe Moose is Town for now. I think both Moose and Arrow have a preconceived notion as to how Mafia should be played and because I don't quite fit what they were expecting, they're automatically suspicious of me.
Arrow: I have mixed feelings about him. Were it not for that huge contradiction I pointed out, I'd be willing to put him in the same boat as Moose. However, it's that, added with the other things I've pointed out about his play that I'm currently not liking.
Vote: Sieg
Everybody who disagrees with Sieg's current strategy of not putting his opinions on record because he doesn't care should wagon him with me. If people are afraid of making a lynch based on theory, then make a policy lynch on a perceivably weak town member.
If he doesn't respond to the wagon, then it can only be indicative of scum unwilling to put his opinions on record.
This will put the current vote count at 2 for LeishaSieg (Vlade being the other voter), putting him at L-3.
ete