Wofl Q&A/Social

[Rizen]

Ftilt is not transcendent. Shine, laser, and laser hilt are though.

A small part of me just died.
Not that shine and blaster are bad or anything.

 

[SinisterB]

Did I just misunderstand the whole transcendent hitbox thing? That makes me sadface, too.

:sadshiro:

 

[KuroganeHammer]

The main part of ftilt is indeed transcendent and will beat tornado out assuming any part of the transcendent hitbox hits MKs hurtbox.

 

[Rizen]

Edit:^? what do you mean by 'main part'?

There aren't many transcendent attacks in Brawl. Off the top of my head:
Wolf's Shine, space animal lasers, MK's sword, Zelda has a few- maybe U/F tilts or smashes, Sheik's needles, Link/TLink/Snake/Peach(Bobomb) explosions, and maybe Pika's downB, IC's Blizzard and Ike's Eruption (not sure).
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I think transcendent means the attack will only interact with hurtboxes, shields and sometimes reflectors. Attacks like Zairs/ROB beam/Falco's shine(maybe?) pierce through hurtboxes and continue but they also interact with hitbubbles and aren't transcendent. Something about MK's tornado's attack cancels other attacks but it's not invulnerability or armor. That's why his head in the top-middle can be hit, there are 3 hitbubbles: 1 on either side and under MK but none above him. That's my understanding anyway.

 

[Seagull Joe]

Edit:^? what do you mean by 'main part'?

There aren't many transcendent attacks in Brawl. Off the top of my head:
Wolf's Shine, space animal lasers, MK's sword, Zelda has a few- maybe U/F tilts or smashes, Sheik's needles, Link/TLink/Snake/Peach(Bobomb) explosions, and maybe Pika's downB, IC's Blizzard and Ike's Eruption (not sure).
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I think transcendent means the attack will only interact with hurtboxes, shields and sometimes reflectors. Attacks like Zairs/ROB beam/Falco's shine(maybe?) pierce through hurtboxes and continue but they also interact with hitbubbles and aren't transcendent. Something about MK's tornado's attack cancels other attacks but it's not invulnerability or armor. That's why his head in the top-middle can be hit, there are 3 hitbubbles: 1 on either side and under MK but none above him. That's my understanding anyway.

I don't think you understand what a transcendent move is. It will not clank. 's sword can clank. I pretty much think a move is transcendent if it beats nado always. 's moves are just all disjointed. GSL is transcendent. I think that's the only move has that is transcendent. A lot of projectiles are transcendent. 's shine might be. Zairs are definitely NOT.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

's sword never clanks except for glide attack. All his other moves involving a sword are transcendent.

GSL is not transcendent.
All lasers and shines are transcendent.
Zair attacks generally seem pretty transcendent as far as I can tell. Never seen them clash.

 

[Rizen]

I don't think you understand what a transcendent move is. It will not clank. 's sword can clank. I pretty much think a move is transcendent if it beats nado always. 's moves are just all disjointed. GSL is transcendent. I think that's the only move has that is transcendent. A lot of projectiles are transcendent. 's shine might be. Zairs are definitely NOT.

Clanking IS two hitbubbles interacting. Like I said, transcendent means it will only interact with hurtboxes etc, in other words not hitbubbles.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=278776
^"Knowing MK’s move set and how to properly use it is the first step to playing MK, or any character for that matter. One very important note about MK is that his normal sword moves, minus Glide Attack, have transcendent priority. What does this mean? It means MK’s moves never clank with your opponents, they go through them."
I also said Zairs are not transcendent. And most projectiles aren't either. Yoshi's eggs might be one that is that I missed.
Bombs, Snake's missile & grenades, throwing items and maybe Yoshi's eggs all have their own hurtbox. With explosives the impact triggers the explosion but technically the explosion is separate from the bomb etc. That's why explosions aren't reflectable but bombs are.
Everything I said is accurate, except maybe what I mentioned I was unsure of.

Edit: (posts arrive quickly here) Also Diddy's bananas are transcendent.
^Zairs stop a lot of range attacks that only have attacks. Like Mario Bros fireballs and others.

 

[Ishiey]

I use turnaround utilt when walking away.

Or I use it to poke on platforms.

Other than that, I be bairin'.

Turnaround utilt, you say? I was thinking of using turnaround dsmash for such purposes lol, but never find myself in a convenient situation to apply such stuff. Will keep in mind. And yes, poking platforms certainly <3

Utilt can reach oponents on the SV plataform, it pseudo-combos with Fair at low percents (not below 15%) and its pretty good if you were trying to juggle, but the opponent somehow got to a height where you will most likely miss if you try an aereal but Utilt would hit. Situational but helpful

On a different topic.... Who has tried making a good use of the SUPER RAMIN CANCEL on smashville???? Its simply awesome.

I can't SRC yet but I can regularly platform cancel from the ground, it's pretty sweet chasing people and dsmashing for edgeguards is super cool.

ish. come on. you've seen my wolf <3

I said "specific ways" in which utilt is used though, not "all the time utilt because I'm the greatest" <3

Spoiler

Wait. Reading the file names, ftilt 2 is the bigger one, good, nvm lol. But yes, ftilt is ftilt. Data says it's transcendent, but I've never seen it beating out tornado, we need to look into this because damn @__________@

Disjointed =/= transcendent. If ftilt were transcendent you wouldn't be able to stop like TL arrows and stuff with it.

Ish, are you in NY / NJ by the time of the next Apex.

Ftilt is transcendent, but only that hitbox, so the arrows cancel on our later hitboxes I'm assuming. Aero, confirm?

I am, and I am housing you

@ Seagull, vv this vv except I *think* zairs aren't transcendent, I've seen Samus' zair clash with things before iirc, but idk, I have no proof :x

's sword never clanks except for glide attack. All his other moves involving a sword are transcendent.

GSL is not transcendent.
All lasers and shines are transcendent.
Zair attacks generally seem pretty transcendent as far as I can tell. Never seen them clash.

And wait, bananas are transcendent? ;__;

 

[tekkie]

I said "specific ways" in which utilt is used though, not "all the time utilt because I'm the greatest" <3

OOS against aerial opponents especially marth/peach who isn't spacing/stuff like that, through platforms, breaking combos, reading airdodges, just about all the time because i'm the greatest <3

how specific were you looking for? i can dig up some vids and show you

 

[KRDsonic]

I thought Samus's Zair can clank.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Ftilt is transcendent, but only that hitbox, so the arrows cancel on our later hitboxes I'm assuming. Aero, confirm?

Yeah pretty much. Since it cancels arrows, we can likely assume that the transcendent hitbox isn't attached to a hurtbox because otherwise the arrow would hit Wolf.

So in theory it should beat Tornado.

 

[Rizen]

And wait, bananas are transcendent? ;__;

banana:-->= .

I thought Samus's Zair can clank.

Zairs can stop attacks with their attack. They're special because if the other attack out-prioritizes the Zair both attacks will continue forward. For example Samus fires a charged shot and Link (highest priority Zair) tries to Zair it, the Zair will continue as the shot moves through until it hits Link then Samus gimps him. Zairs don't clank but aren't transcendent either.

Lucas' Zair might be transcendent but has no attack or effect besides tethering ledges so it doesn't matter.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Transcendence can only be applied to hitboxes.

 

[-Shiro-]

why do you guys hate me????????

:<

 

[KuroganeHammer]

I wuv u shiro <333

 

[-Shiro-]

LIAR

 

[Rizen]

G&W's bucket dump probably is transcendent. Wind, unlike Squirtle/Mario's water, is transcendent. Or rather behaves like transcendent attacks but is its own thing. With one exception: Link can 'kill' reflected boomerang wind with attacks.

 

[Goldenadept]

this social needs more Golden Sun discussion >:l

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I am, and I am housing you

Awesome <3

 

[Wolf McBlue]

this social needs more Golden Sun discussion >:l

oooo me like, one of my favorite rpg ever, I remember beat the first two with the lowest lvl possible, I think for first one they were between 20-24 and for second somewhere around 30. The third one was good but not bad the puzzle weren't as challenging as the first two but the new psyengery abilities were cool. Also the cliffhanger at the end of the third one made me rage since they could of probably added that section in, but now I have to wait for the sequel :/. I could almost talk about this game all day it's one of my top 5 series

 

[tekkie]

this social needs more Golden Sun discussion >:l

WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN <3<3<3

 

[SinisterB]

Saturos is like the coolest mother****er around.

Felix is a pretty cool guy, too.


I should go back and play the good old ones, it sure has been awhile. Low level runs are cool and all but it needs more overpowering imo. I love grinding, although i'm not sure if that's a blessing or a curse. LOL.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Mia is extremely hot.

 

[tekkie]

Mia is extremely hot.

so much this <3

 

[-Shiro-]

Golden sun is bad :3

 

[MegaRobMan]

I played about 4 hours of Golden Sun on the road to see Blink 182/Green Day/Jimmy Eat World. I never did get to finish it.

 

[Sinister Slush]

this social needs more Golden Sun discussion >:l

How about Goldeneye?

 

[Rizen]

If I posted 'No comment.' with no other content would that be considered spam?

'too tired for this. Missing it again

 

[Wolf McBlue]

I love grinding, although i'm not sure if that's a blessing or a curse. LOL.

Depends on how much grinding you do. Now when I was super addicted to the series I would grind for hours, like 4-5 hrs a sittings o0. Which now that I look at that was a little too much lol

@MRM you should either find the games on ebay/amazon/etc or find an emulator and enjoy the amazingness that is golden sun

Also I hope they put a playable character in Golden Sun in the next super smash, the special moves could be djinns and normal tilt attacks physical and smashes psyenergy with the Final Smash is the Iris summon :o

 

[rsr2]

Not enough Golden Sun.

First post in a while. Sup?

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

http://www.livestream.com/papamink

I'm about to livestream me and my roomie playing amnesia, if anyone wants to listen to my roomie get scared as ****

XD

 

[Goldenadept]

i dont know what made me wanna post here again :x

i missed all my old woffle buddies i guess havent played brawl in months xD still love the furry ******* though <3
mostly been playing league of legends and watching adventure time, other than that.... life as usual, work, drinking heavily etc

 

[The Iron Wolf]

i dont know what made me wanna post here again :x

i missed all my old woffle buddies i guess havent played brawl in months xD still love the furry ******* though <3
mostly been playing league of legends and watching adventure time, other than that.... life as usual, work, drinking heavily etc

Ew, League of Legends.


:L

 

[Goldenadept]

Ew, League of Legends.


:L

you sir, are a coward and a ruffian

 

[SinisterB]

League sucks

i am neither of those mentioned

 

[-Shiro-]

i dont know what made me wanna post here again :x

i missed all my old woffle buddies i guess havent played brawl in months xd still love the furry ******* though <3
mostly been playing league of legends and watching adventure time, other than that.... Life as usual, work, drinking heavily etc

\


dude i love you
<3

ALSO LOOK

 

[tekkie]

i dont know what made me wanna post here again :x

i missed all my old woffle buddies i guess havent played brawl in months xD still love the furry ******* though <3
mostly been playing league of legends and watching adventure time, other than that.... life as usual, work, drinking heavily etc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eVUboiavc0&t=5s

except replace "kevin" with "goldenadept"

 

[KRDsonic]

^But my name is Kevin. You're replacing me tekkie? ;-; We can't have both worst wofls here at the same time?

Aaaaaaanyways, welcome back Golden ^^

 

[tekkie]

oh my god. krd. i love you too <3

 

[MegaRobMan]

In case we aren't friends on facebook

"After being lied to and being forced to go on a wild goose chase by one of the dumbest people I've ever met, I was escorted out of the Omaha "Hall of Justice" today by 2 policemen for yelling at this clerk about the incompetence of the DMV and the city government in general. Guess I have to wait til Monday to get my new license I forgot to get in January."

Everyone, go out and protest your local government for their hypocritical enforcement of laws, hypocritical creation of laws and misleading media coverage. They aren't giving you a fair shake at anything you do. Especially you non-white, non-upperclass, non-male, non-christ followers, non-straight because the world is designed against you.

/rant

Ew, League of Legends.

Sig worthy.