Why isnt ther a wifi tier list?

[BIGM1994]

I think some1 should come up with a wifi tier list FOR REAL.ill probaly come with a top 5 i suggest u do too just for discussion.

 

[AranOcean]

No. Too much lag. Even the best character (being ) has trouble with bad lag.

 

[Gigabyte_]

Watch lucario be like 5 places higher.

 

[c3gill]

... what would make a wifi tier list any different than the normal tier list?

unless you plan on taking lag into account, and determine which characters suffer worse from lag- thats an lol worthy idea though, how would you compare and test this?

 

[FireKirby7]

Ness - bottom tier. x_x

 

[The Marth]

Marth- underground tier x_x

 

[Lord Viper]

☆ Don't forget the Wolf spammers. >=] ☆

 

[mofo_]

lol i hate wolf spammers! fsmash fsmash fsmash dsmash lazer lazer lazer taunt

 

[SSJ5Goku8932]

lol i hate wolf spammers! fsmash fsmash fsmash dsmash lazer lazer lazer taunt

"Sees Topic creators main"

well, Wifi is not really a big deal sir.

DON"T GO ACTING ALL TOUGH BECAUSE YOU BEAT PEOPLE ON WI FI!

 

[Noobicidal]

I think some1 should come up with a wifi tier list FOR REAL.ill probaly come with a top 5 i suggest u do too just for discussion.

Huh, and here I thought April Fool's Day was over. Now I just feel silly.

+1

 

[Xivii]

I think some1 should come up with a wifi tier list FOR REAL.ill probaly come with a top 5 i suggest u do too just for discussion.

The tier list is the same...
The only difference is the lag, correct? There is no way to test at a constant lag rate because lag varies from player to player. You are free to form a list of your own but it all most certainly cannot be accurate.

 

[LordoftheMorning]

Characters handle way differently in lag. I have thought the same thing on occasion. There really ought to be one.

 

[Xivii]

How would you determine it?

 

[deepseadiva]

Online tournament rankings obviously.

 

[Xivii]

=O
oh silly me^^?

well now get to it guys
Since it is online and not offline I'm sure it will be completely different =)
MK will probably be G tier =D and C. Falcon seriously might be God Tier =D

Left to Right




No really try it out ^^

 

[Splice]

In really mediocre "I can brawl to this, but its a bit annoying" lag,

Ness and Lucas bottom tier (Up B becomes impossible) and Bowser and DK (trust me)
Ganondorf and Sonic go a but higher (easier to land Power moves, and Sonic is fast still so is less affected)
Lucario, Wolf, G&W, Falco, go a lot higher ( Cbf explaining. Smash Move tricks for GaW confuse more)

I still dont think we need this, Online tournaments dont count for nothing,
The only reason most people play online is to practice for tournaments or for fun,
And when its for fun no-one cares about tiers.

 

[Alus]

Tier lists are fun...

Just because we dont need it doesn't mean we shouldnt *try*. But it WILL be unaccurate.

(lucario go higher lol what?)

 

[Nibbles 2]

=O
oh silly me^^?

well now get to it guys
Since it is online and not offline I'm sure it will be completely different =)
MK will probably be G tier =D and C. Falcon seriously might be God Tier =D

Left to Right




No really try it out ^^

I lol'ed.

But the wifi tier rankings wouldn't be that much different than the offline tier list, because all characters would be disadvantaged by the lag to a similar extent. Plus... how useful would such a tier list be?

Not very imo.

 

[Browny]

Why isnt ther a wifi tier list?

BECAUSE MENTOK WILLS IT SO

 

[ZHMT]

SS: Snake, Ike, Lucario

S: Mr Gnw, Metaknight, Wolf, Olimar,

A: Falco, ROB, Peach, Wario, Diddy Kong

B: Pit, Donkey Kong, King Dedede, Luigi, Pikachu, Zero Suit Samus, Fox

C: Kirby, Toon Link, Ice Climbers, Marth, Zelda,

I copied this from someone, I DIDNT MAKE THIS, Im not saying who because I dont know if he wants me to say or not.

Note that this assumes you play along with wifi. ANY CHARACTER THAT YOU PLAY LIKE OFFLINE WILL BE WORSE ONLINE. This list represents how easy it is to switch up styles, and win in lag.

 

[PitMasta]

there shouldn't be a Wi-Fi tier list, we already have an official tier list, and we have that because playing in live tournaments is way better than playing with button lag

 

[4Serial]

there isn't a wifi tier list because wifi means nothing lol

 

[PitMasta]

there isn't a wifi tier list because wifi means nothing lol

my point exactly.

 

[Geist]

Making a tier list based on wifi would require a consistant metagame. Or any sort of metagame whatsoever, besides spamming the biggest moves. The fact that lag isn't consistant and affects people differently, you can't really get any accuracy...

There would have to be some sort of concensus on the first tier list as well, and we all know THAT'S not happenning any time soon. >_>

there isn't a wifi tier list because wifi means nothing lol

basically

 

[AndreVeloso]

Ike would definitely be top tier. The main problem about accessing lag is because sometimes there is no lag, which means a normal tier list would be used. Doesn't help us if there is one though.

 

[KRDsonic]

Ice Climbers... would move way down.

No starting desync. Desyncing becomes harder with button delay. Chain grabbing is way harder on wifi too.

Bowser would move up a bit, though. He's does better on wifi than offline, from what I've experienced with using him, with the exception of the release grab stuff.



(Also, I seem to only be able to aim Lucas's recovery well on wifi, I suck with it offline for some reason o.O)

 

[Shiri]

WiFi tiers.

Top: Olimar

Bottom: 35 character who want to rip that little b*tch to shreds.

 

[Tenki]

Sonic go a but higher (easier to land Power moves, and Sonic is fast still so is less affected)

It's double edged though.

Sonic can move as fast and be even harder to hit if you're actually aiming for him.

But that's the trick, and the kicker.

If you're throwing out fast / disjoint moves, especially aerials or moves that require him to shield or space to punish, then it's also harder to shield moves, so they also tend to run into attacks more often.



The real advantage goes to the person throwing out moves/approaching, since they control the timing of their attacks and don't have to worry about reflexively retaliating or anything like that. Whether by 'attacking'/'approaching' you mean running up to and actually hitting, or just throwing a slow item, lol. Even noobie tactics like spamming spindash or Wolf lasers/F-smash work better lol.

Fast-attacking, ranged characters with disjointed moves/projectiles are hella hard to fight on wifi. Characters with hard hitting moves can kill easier with simple Yomi 2 baits.
Everyone loses spacing ability, and people who play defensively and/or are based off of Yomi 1 lose out.

>__> wifi tier lists are worthless.

 

[Volt7x]

SS: Snake, Ike, Lucario

S: Mr Gnw, Metaknight, Wolf, Olimar,

A: Falco, ROB, Peach, Wario, Diddy Kong

B: Pit, Donkey Kong, King Dedede, Luigi, Pikachu, Zero Suit Samus, Fox

C: Kirby, Toon Link, Ice Climbers, Marth, Zelda,

I copied this from someone, I DIDNT MAKE THIS, Im not saying who because I dont know if he wants me to say or not.

Note that this assumes you play along with wifi. ANY CHARACTER THAT YOU PLAY LIKE OFFLINE WILL BE WORSE ONLINE. This list represents how easy it is to switch up styles, and win in lag.

Why is Kirby so low? I remember people making online tier lists here a while ago.