Im going to give this discussion and thread once more chance.
I don't have any Sonic match-up's experience but it's definitely in Wario's favour. Let's say +2.
I just can't think of a reliable way for Sonic to kill. His B-air fresh kills at 150% or more with good DI. F-smash and Up-Air at the top of the screen are way too predictable and need a good read to hit. They can't air release us.
We survive forever and we can kill him much earlier.
Bite erases most of Sonic's approach options if used correctly. AC D-air is too good against him because he has some kind of a blindpost over him (up-air first hitboxes hit on sides, Usmash is slow on start-up and his grab is short) and it beats side-b and down-b most of the time.
Landing Fart isn't really hard, just wait the laggy move/airdodge or bait the counterattack Sonics always do when they recover with Up-B. PUNISH DAT DAIR AC THING HE TENDS TO DO WHEN HE´S HIGH, it just suxx.
Also don't try to punish Side-B or Down-B with OoS options. It's too fast and the hitbox is invincible. Bait it with Bite/D-air.
Ban DF, he's annoying there. This match-up doesn't need specific playstyle or requierments. Just focus on the match and don't let him disturb you with his speed and tricks. This is what he wants.
The red part is when you should have stopped talking. If I see another post like this, Im out of here.
the pink is when you put your foot in your mouth and make yourself look like a fool.
The green is where you contradict yourself, how can you know what sonics tendancies are, if you never play against them.
also those are things that can only be relied on of bad sonic players. good one will mix up their recovery options.
1. Sonics inability to kill doesnt factor into his matchups anymore, or else he would lose every matchup in the game. Whats important is: a. how much easier the opponent can kill than us, b. ease of damage racking on the opponent and c. how well the opponent can avoid our kill moves.
aside from fart happening randomly sonic has the mobility to avoid most of warios main kill moves, which means that we can live long as well. and our damage racking ability on wario is pretty good considering that if we have you in a juggling position, you cant beat our up air from above, and we can trap you if you airdodge. It is slightly hard to get the last hit, but theres plenty of set ups that work on wario, and we can kill you if we shield the right move.
2. if you bite stupidly, we can roll behind and grab you, jump over you and bair you or f smash/down tilt you.
3. sonics speed and tricks are a big part of the match so I dont even know what youre trying to say here.
Basically what the wario wants to do is avoid habits and not try to fight sonics attacks head up, unless hes in a ball, or youre using armor/invincibilty/up airs stupid hitbox.
