Video Thread: Now in Regular Definition!

[B.A.M.]

im sorry but that was a really bad snake, bwett. however, i loved your yoshi, gave me some pointers on my own ive been working on. honestly though i dont know what that snake was thinking with no grenades or anything. his jab cancelling wasnt that great either. quick question; what the best way to use dair? also does anyone have a video of a yoshi proficient in DRing?

 

[Bwett]

im sorry but that was a really bad snake, bwett. however, i loved your yoshi, gave me some pointers on my own ive been working on. honestly though i dont know what that snake was thinking with no grenades or anything. his jab cancelling wasnt that great either. quick question; what the best way to use dair? also does anyone have a video of a yoshi proficient in DRing?

The reason he doesn't use grenades is because my eggs make them blow up in his hands. It is an extremely bad situation for Snake.

For dair, depending on the characters ability to punish while you are on the edge, you can use drop from ledge -> DJ dair - > nair. It's rather powerful and can break shield if you do it properly.

Thanks for the compliments, dude

 

[bigman40]

If you're trying to look at some strats that'll beat a Yoshi that can DR, then you probably won't get much luck seeing as very few people use DR. I happen to be one that does DR.

ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB4b4roRRsM (match 1) - played Yoshi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs_31qr6Sk8 (match 2) - played Yoshi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQbO7pJFOG8 (match 3) - played Yoshi

These vids are short of old though, cause both my friend and I got better than what you see now.

 

[YoshiIslander77z]

is there anyone i can send some of my replys to cause i got a few i would wanna put here

 

[Poltergust]

Um, this may seem like a burden to some people, but can can I add someone to send them videos over Wi-Fi? ^_^;

I really do have some good ones...

 

[Scarlet Jile]

Great vids as per usual, Bwett.

Going to England for a couple of weeks tonight! Will be able to update from there, but it probably won't be instant.

P.S. YOSHI HAS ACHIEVED 200 VIDEOS, WHICH IS OFFICIALLY A MEGA RAD NUMBER. CONGRATS ON LUCKY #200, BWETT.

 

[Bwett]

WOOOO!!!! What do I win?! O_O

 

[Van Jones]

A cookie? OM NOM NOM

 

[Poltergust]

Why am I always being ignored? =(

If you don't want to, you can at least say so...

 

[SOVAman]

Why am I always being ignored? =(

If you don't want to, you can at least say so...

No I don't is dat what you want to here lol

 

[Sharky]

ooh enjoy your trip, scarlet. You should get in touch with pidgey while you're there. =P

 

[SOVAman]

Idk if yoster already posted them but here they are


TOURNAMENT YOSHI DITTOS

Match 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CICM8rZDczY

Match 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gYKk6DwBJo

Match 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUjSDueWbsY

Another thing TAKE NOTES me(lil b) and yosters mind games are TOO GOOD


if you watch the first one watch the whole thing

I

fcuked up


the


first match


but


I still won

 

[Poltergust]

Fine... I'll just have to learn how to use a recording device.

Now, the red circle button means "Record," right? =P

 

[SOVAman]

Fine... I'll just have to learn how to use a recording device.

Now, the red circle button means "Record," right? =P

No

10eggs

 

[Deleted member]

Ok good stuff lilb +yoster. A few things:
Pivot grab egg roll
Id experiment with some full hop bair to bair or bair to nair and stuff like that, helped me alot, not sure bout you.

Good job tho=D

 

[SOVAman]

Thx socks

but....

its hard to try to experiment in a tournament match and yoshi dittos are a totally different way to play


but I will try to add in some more full hop B airs when needed.

 

[Deleted member]

Of course, i was just sayin, maybe expiriment in friendlies a lil bit. Indeed, dittos are wierd, i hate um.

 

[Ryusuta]

Well, I've got a couple more Yoshi videos. Nothing mind-blowing, but I thought they turned out pretty well (plus, they were actually screen-capped for a change). As might be expected I had a couple of pretty nice moments, and some really boneheaded deaths, here. I also couldn't pivot grab worth a crap on this set.

Yoshi vs. Kirby
Yoshi vs. Pokemon Trainer

 

[SOVAman]

@sir Orion

To be honest your yoshi needs a lot of work I watched the PT one
1st of all CG the **** out of squirtle then fair spike
2nd where are your SH bairs?
3rd throw a lot lot MOAR eggs seriously it will rack up a ton of damage
4th that PT sucks balls hard
5th less dairs on the stage too much end lag its a surprise move and a spike and nothing more.
6th its okay to spam Bair
7th good piviot grabs but try to do something out of the release instead of letting ur opponent keep on you
8th good **** hope that helped

 

[Deleted member]

Yes to everything lil b said, and kirby was kinda bad too. Tell him to lrn2airdodge. Also, i would never ever suggest running from the middle of the stage and dash attacking, it shouldnt ever work, they can just shield and SH bair out of shield, same with running grabs. More bairs definately, try to be a little more unpredictable(easier said than done i know).



What do you mean you couldnt pivot grab???

 

[SOVAman]

@sir Orion

To be honest your yoshi needs a lot of work I watched the PT one
1st of all CG the **** out of squirtle then fair spike
2nd where are your SH bairs?
3rd throw a lot lot MOAR eggs seriously it will rack up a ton of damage
4th that PT sucks balls hard
5th less dairs on the stage too much end lag its a surprise move and a spike and nothing more.
6th its okay to spam Bair
7th good piviot grabs but try to do something out of the release instead of letting ur opponent keep on you
8th good **** hope that helped

Yes to everything lil b said, and kirby was kinda bad too. Tell him to lrn2airdodge. Also, i would never ever suggest running from the middle of the stage and dash attacking, it shouldnt ever work, they can just shield and SH bair out of shield, same with running grabs. More bairs definately, try to be a little more unpredictable(easier said than done i know).



What do you mean you couldnt pivot grab???

Combine these two beautiful post and you will get some d*mn good advice


Also look at mys and yosters most recent dittos and u will discover unpredictable mind games watch all of them in awe

 

[Deleted member]

*cough*

Lol Jk. <3 beast coast mindgames

 

[Ryusuta]

1st of all CG the **** out of squirtle then fair spike

I was online. It's hard to time it right, especially since you'll notice that he wasn't mashing out of the grabs, making the timing MUCH more difficult to pinpoint.

2nd where are your SH bairs?

They were there, just not prevalent. I think it's an overrated and overused move, personally. (BLASPHEMY!)

3rd throw a lot lot MOAR eggs seriously it will rack up a ton of damage

I throw eggs to force an approach (or allow for my own). Once I get the approach I either deal with it or back off and repeat.

4th that PT sucks balls hard

No argument here. Other than some cool aerial pokes with Squirtle, he didn't do anything impressive. He hydroplaned up smashed so often that I got hit by four of them without dying. It probably would have been a 3-stock if I hadn't made some rather obvious mistakes toward the end.

5th less dairs on the stage too much end lag its a surprise move and a spike and nothing more.

I disagree. It was clear he was overusing the shield and I was doing it to wear the shield down. If I thought I would have gotten thrown out of it, I wouldn't have used it. But it was clear that he had no intention of countering it.

6th its okay to spam Bair

See earlier comment.

7th good piviot grabs but try to do something out of the release instead of letting ur opponent keep on you

What match were you watching? I couldn't pivot grab worth crap in those matches.

My Yoshi has a totally different pacing and style than other Yoshi players'. One that has gotten me some reasonable competitive success. While I appreciate the advice, I don't particularly need it or want it. I know what Yoshi is and isn't capable of, and I know what will and won't get me punished.

More importantly, you seem to be forgetting the key rule: to play your OPPONENT'S character more than your own. I wouldn't have done half the stuff I did if I thought that the person I was playing was the type of person that would have had an answer for it.

Smash Bros. Brawl (especially online) is a game of rock, paper, scissors. If I know that my opponent is going to play rock every single time, of course I'm going to keep playing paper. I like having my opponents fall for stupid stuff. It makes them more flustered and gets them to make even more mistakes.

Since I use a different kind of Yoshi than other people, I can't copy other people's style. I have to play my own style. It's a style I'm confident in because it has served me well.

Of course, no one here has actually answered any of my match challenges (Mmac, looking at you), so I can't really prove that. I don't have my own screen capturing device, so I'm pretty much stuck with whatever matches I'm able to record.

Also look at mys and yosters most recent dittos and u will discover unpredictable mind games watch all of them in awe

I wasn't exactly awe-struck with the suicide that happened in the first 10 seconds. Your mind games weren't all that impressive, either. WAY too much reliance on down B canceling and off-stage Egg Tosses.

 

[YoshiIslander77z]

Um, this may seem like a burden to some people, but can can I add someone to send them videos over Wi-Fi? ^_^;

I really do have some good ones...

um is there someone i can send some replys to or am i gonna get ignored again

 

[Ryusuta]

Have you tried PMing him?

 

[Deleted member]

O lilb, dont down b so much lol. I do agree you did some nice **** outta a down b slide, but dont use it tooo much.

Also, orion, you dont have to take our advice. But reallly, you should learn to cg, squirtle is the easiest to Cg, you shouldnt be relying on them to mash buttons.

 

[Ryusuta]

You don't understand what I'm saying. Because of the online latency, I had to start pressing forward to run a split second BEFORE the release happened. Because he didn't mash out of it, I ended up hitting forward too soon, and threw him as a result. It's a very common problem with online CGs, even easy ones. Even Mmac has complained about this problem, and he's one of the more competent chain grabbers out there.

 

[Poltergust]

Have you tried PMing him?

PMing who?

Just because I'm unable to upload any replays doesn't mean that I can't send them to somebody over Wi-Fi...

 

[SOVAman]

I was online. It's hard to time it right, especially since you'll notice that he wasn't mashing out of the grabs, making the timing MUCH more difficult to pinpoint.



They were there, just not prevalent. I think it's an overrated and overused move, personally. (BLASPHEMY!)



I throw eggs to force an approach (or allow for my own). Once I get the approach I either deal with it or back off and repeat.



No argument here. Other than some cool aerial pokes with Squirtle, he didn't do anything impressive. He hydroplaned up smashed so often that I got hit by four of them without dying. It probably would have been a 3-stock if I hadn't made some rather obvious mistakes toward the end.



I disagree. It was clear he was overusing the shield and I was doing it to wear the shield down. If I thought I would have gotten thrown out of it, I wouldn't have used it. But it was clear that he had no intention of countering it.



See earlier comment.



What match were you watching? I couldn't pivot grab worth crap in those matches.

My Yoshi has a totally different pacing and style than other Yoshi players'. One that has gotten me some reasonable competitive success. While I appreciate the advice, I don't particularly need it or want it. I know what Yoshi is and isn't capable of, and I know what will and won't get me punished.

More importantly, you seem to be forgetting the key rule: to play your OPPONENT'S character more than your own. I wouldn't have done half the stuff I did if I thought that the person I was playing was the type of person that would have had an answer for it.

Smash Bros. Brawl (especially online) is a game of rock, paper, scissors. If I know that my opponent is going to play rock every single time, of course I'm going to keep playing paper. I like having my opponents fall for stupid stuff. It makes them more flustered and gets them to make even more mistakes.

Since I use a different kind of Yoshi than other people, I can't copy other people's style. I have to play my own style. It's a style I'm confident in because it has served me well.

Of course, no one here has actually answered any of my match challenges (Mmac, looking at you), so I can't really prove that. I don't have my own screen capturing device, so I'm pretty much stuck with whatever matches I'm able to record.



I wasn't exactly awe-struck with the suicide that happened in the first 10 seconds. Your mind games weren't all that impressive, either. WAY too much reliance on down B canceling and off-stage Egg Tosses.

No johns dude


and who cares if I lose first match that was a mind game I won the set lol

 

[Deleted member]

No johns dude


and who cares if I lose first match that was a mind game I won the set lol

An epic one at that xD

 

[Bwett]

Woo! Did someone say Bwett(Yoshi) vs. Dojo(MK)?!?!?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t11GYdJ0Gd0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrcMLqFwI6M

 

[SOVAman]

I will watch later bwett

 

[Deleted member]

Bwett is by far, the best yoshi in the US. Nuff said

 

[Poltergust]

I saw it back on AiB. One word: AWESOME! =D

I hope more people see it and see that Yoshi CAN contend with Meta Knight (yes, there are STILL people saying that Yoshi is disadvantaged...).

 

[SOVAman]

Bwett is by far, the best yoshi in the US. Nuff said

in the south honestly he just has a different style then EC yoshi so i would not say hes the best srry bwett

I saw it back on AiB. One word: AWESOME! =D

I hope more people see it and see that Yoshi CAN contend with Meta Knight (yes, there are STILL people saying that Yoshi is disadvantaged...).

wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong 100% disadvantage if you can't see that your a scrub

bwett beat him probably cuz he knows the match up


now for tips
1. stop retreating hold your ground, try to force an approach and when he approach just try to stay with him or force another approach. Retreating can put you in a bad position

2. do not down b when getting attacked it will push you to one side and may cause a death (as you know) use down b to poke shields and KO and sometimes grab the edge but it is not a combo breaker

3. when you get him in the CG make sure you CG him to the edge and maybe go for fair spike if you want to pressure him more. It puts your opponent in a horrible position which can lead to a lot like gimps, Fsmashs and Uairs.

4. don't stale out your upsmash and if you do, use the Uair out of the grab release

5. watch you pivot grabs if you do them to much they become predictable and punishable

6. Don't stay on the edge too much Yoshi is better chasing and on the stage

 

[Ryusuta]

Actually, I sometimes INTENTIONALLY diminish my up smash if I know I'm not going to kill with it, because the lower knockback sometimes allows for some great low percentage set-ups.

 

[Poltergust]

lilb, do I sense a hint of jealousy? =P

In any case, I'm sure that the match-up is indeed neutral. It sucked that bwett suicided twice, though. He could have actually two-stocked him in both matches. XD

 

[Deleted member]

lilb, do I sense a hint of jealousy? =P

In any case, I'm sure that the match-up is indeed neutral. It sucked that bwett suicided twice, though. He could have actually two-stocked him in both matches. XD

Cool, im sure that its not. Who is right???

I think I'm right(lol), and experience against very good Mks in tournament tells me I am right, and other good yoshis tell me Im right. Bwett obviously knew the matchup much better than dojo.

To comment on lilb's comments:

Opinions are opinions, hes the best yoshi ive seen. I dont like to classify stuff by region, just cuz EC has a few more top players doesnt mean that an EC yoshi is better than a WC yoshi.

Bwetts style involves the retreating, and obviously its working, considering he just beat prolly the best player in texa.

3 and 4 are fine, i agree to use uair out of the release

Your last comment is arguable, you cant really chase Mk very well.

I gotta fast fall my bairs like that, good stuff.

 

[SOVAman]

lilb, do I sense a hint of jealousy? =P

until u can go to tourneys and prove yourself to be anywhere close to decent then stfu I am just giving advice so until u prove urself to be anywhere close to decent dont try to call me out like an ***

 

[Ryusuta]

This thread is going to single-handedly rip the Yoshi boards asunder...

Can we stop calling each other out and talking about who is better than who?