[VIC] Melbourne CouchWarriors 2011 - AGM News

[Vyse]

Who's repping Diddy?

 

[Dekar289]

uh, icek of course

 

[TakFR]

IceK uses (is cheap with) about 5 characters though

Atticus <3 for keeping melee alive

Jei what's an STD?

Also Cao if that is a tier list what is Luigi doing below Link?

 

[bylim5]

WTF... Ness is so low ! *plans next Ranbat assault*

oh btw Tak, how much do u want for ur spare GCN memory card. :D

 

[Mystify]

aww, another meatknight player? would be nice to see some other underused characters being used but i suppose it can't be helped. hope to play against you at the next meet

is there a list anywhere of the number of people using certain characters for melbourne?

I am assuming you were referring to me in that post -

I do agree with you, Meta Knight is overused. And I have tried to use other characters, but when I'm playing with anyone other than the spherical blue caped knight of doom, I'm not enjoying myself. I'm even better with other characters, everyone I've played against tells me that my R.O.B and Ice Climbers are better than my MK, but it makes no difference, to me, MK = Fun.

Besides, I chose Meta Knight before I knew how good he was - but I'm sure everyone uses that excuse. xD

I have to admit though, I do have fun using Bowser. Possible secondary? iono.

 

[Dekar289]

cao, the guy who used to run the tournaments, thinks he has some sort of bowser, but it's just scrub

 

[_X_]

What's a b00zer?

 

[CAOTIC]

you know, the cute squishy turtle thing with ice cream cones on his back that likes hugging things <3

 

[Zant3tsuken]

In other news, I think I just found the ultimate venue for Melbourne's major tournaments ~ I just died of happiness, it even makes paying how much you want for food and Dodgeball a reality

Need more info!

 

[CAOTIC]

Behold: The Abbotsford Convent

Formerly a precinct for religious sanctuary, it has been saved from condo development and is now Melbourne's next up-and-coming arts and cultural incubator. The precinct is really close to the city, is about 6 acres, and smacks of character.

Pros:
Location - A 10 minute walk to the Yarra Bend, from Collingwood or Victoria Park stations, just off Hoddle Street and Studley Park Roads. It's rural setting is highly deceptive given it's urban location.
Food and Drink - 3 restaurants inside the precinct, one is a quirky cafe serving the regular stuff+alcohol, one is a bakery/stokehouse, and the other is a resturant that lets you pay whatever you want. It challenges the concept of retail by allowing customers to pay a suggested donation for the love of the food - I can see gamers exploting this.
Dodgeball - 6 acres speaks for itself, alot of concrete coverage too.
Venue hire - I suppose artistic spaces are affordable:
Refectory, Convent (Capacity 180) = $275 full day
The Salon, Convent (Capacity 150) = $330 full day
Community Room, Convent (Capacity 300) = $660 full day
Full day is from 9 to 5, but you can extend until 12am by paying more
It's next to a petting farm, so you can pet fluffy things

Cons:
Nothing really

CW should look into this with me

I'm looking into hiring the Refectory over 2 days, perhaps this can be merged with the idea of the big annual?

 

[Cronos_Rainbow]

Go Shaz and his really wtf tier list!

Snake
Metaknight
Pikachu
Pit
Diddy
Falco
Marth
IC
Mr G&W
Wolf
Robot
DK
Wario
King DDD
Kirby
Lucas
Fox
Link
Lucario
Zelda
Zamus
Sheik
Toon Link
Olimar
Peach
Ike
Luigi
Trainer
Mario
Samus
Ness
Bowser
Sonic
Ganondorf
Jigglypuff
Yoshi
Cptn. Falcon

 

[Everence]

yes, it really is truly a wtf tier list when link is placed higher than lucario =\

 

[Zant3tsuken]

Dodgeball - 6 acres speaks for itself, alot of concrete coverage too.
Venue hire - I suppose artistic spaces are affordable:
Refectory, Convent (Capacity 180) = $275 full day
The Salon, Convent (Capacity 150) = $330 full day
Community Room, Convent (Capacity 300) = $660 full day
Full day is from 9 to 5, but you can extend until 12am by paying more
It's next to a petting farm, so you can pet fluffy things

Cons:
Nothing really

CW should look into this with me

I'm looking into hiring the Refectory over 2 days, perhaps this can be merged with the idea of the big annual?

Will do, it looks like a good find. I'm also investigating the old Vic trade hall which is virtually across the road from the Curtin at the moment.

Gonna have to check this one out. Obvious things that come to mind.
-Cost for after hours.
-Power... old building might have problems.
-Parking

Also hope those prices are weekend!

 

[Jei Jei]

you know, the cute squishy turtle thing with ice cream cones on his back that likes hugging things <3

I might have to make that my sig

 

[CAOTIC]

Zan, I know the answer to those questions.

Anyway, here's the real list:

Top
Meta Knight
Snake
King Dedede
Mr. Game & Watch
Falco
R.O.B.

High
Marth
Wario
Lucario
Donkey Kong
Diddy
Pikachu
Ice Climbers
Kirby
Pit
Wolf

Middle
Toon Link
Olimar
Fox
Zelda
Zero Suit Samus
Bowser
Luigi
Peach
Ike
Shiek

Low
Lucas
Ness
Mario
Pokémon Trainer
Samus
Yoshi
Sonic
Jigglypuff
Ganondorf
Link
Captain Falcon

I want to do a Low Tier Tourney now!

 

[Jei Jei]

I would love a low tier tourney...considering every single one of my characters except pit is in the low tier.
Oh except Fox who is in middle.
...Is that list real? I don't think Link should be that low o_o
hmm and I know Ness and Lucas have alot of weaknesses but ****.

Oh well I'm not one to debate a tier list

 

[Everence]

oh well, tier lists are just indicators, i do feel sorry for link though

 

[Jei Jei]

Yeah, not for C.Falcon though.
It's his own fault for being so slow and weak compared to his Melee counterpart.
Too much gaming and eating, not enough exercise. He even has to wear a scarf now to hide his double chin (probably).
All that tone and muscle you see is actually just drawn onto his suit now. Falcon fails.

 

[Amaterasu]

Low teir tourney = more pkm trainer
Yes!

 

[CAOTIC]

FYI, low tier tournaments ban top and high tier only - so in this case everything including and below Toon Link would be allowed.

J! Get some monthlies happening at the Convent and we can do all sorts of win

 

[Dekar289]

cao your tier list is fail

 

[CAOTIC]

It's not my tier list, it's the SBR list, which I own 0.1% of

 

[Dekar289]

THAT'S the sbr list???

-_- wooow.

 

[Suntan Luigi]

what's with everyone making failed tier lists?

lol at Js post

 

[TakFR]

Foxy for low tier tourney FTW!

 

[Devil.]

Silly smashers, Tiers are for Queers!

 

[Vermy]

My missus has been lording the fact that Metaknight and Game & Watch are in in top tier all day
-_-
I still kick her *** but its a shot to the ego. Poor little Kirby sitting at 14 and Peach at 24. Makes me sad =(

Curse you tier list version 1.0! *shakes fist*

 

[LemonManX]

Interesting. Link took it hard.

 

[Jei Jei]

I would do Monthlies but I need to see the venue for myself.
Although I'm already sure it's great.

The tier list is somewhat depressing in some ways but I'm very glad we have one now.
All of my characters are so low *cries*

 

[Mystify]

I would do Monthlies but I need to see the venue for myself.
Although I'm already sure it's great.

The tier list is somewhat depressing in some ways but I'm very glad we have one now.
All of my characters are so low *cries*

Who cares? It just means less people will use them, making you, and your character choices, more unique. xP

 

[LemonManX]

Well, I wouldn't expect the Tier List to change peoples mains just because characters are too low and they want to use higher characters. That's gheyness. Ike forever.... until I can use Roy again.

*keeps track of texture hacks*

 

[TakFR]

Atticus is your melee thingy on this weekend?

 

[Cronos_Rainbow]

I'd play Ike if he took Falcons place.

 

[Atticus]

Melee thing is going to have to wait, I've been quite sick this week and even if I get better I'll need the time to catch up on uni work I've missed.

 

[CAOTIC]

Johns, I see this as an escape path... *pet pet*

Anyhow, Ranbat discussion time! I checked a thread in the SBR and a TO in Washington is going to test a slightly modified ruleset in their next set of tournaments, with a few more following suit just out of curiosity. The change proposed is a switch from 3 stock to 2, with sets played in a best of 5. The benefits are thought to be something along these following lines:
- Greater counterpicking and stage-selection emphasis
- Changes the dynamics of certain characters (i.e. Pokemon Trainer is more competitive with 2 stock than 3 with only 1 switchout necessary, Zero Suit Samus’ broken armour becomes more important, significant implications for suicide-kill characters such as Bowser and Dedede, Lucario would be advantaged taking the 1st stock, the reverse if he doesn’t).
- Makes games faster and theoretically more palatable to watch (not the set, if anything it will be roughly the same time)

The only real concern is the possibility of being punished heavily for making a mistake. However, these concerns are nullified by the best of 5 set, and the game’s inability to sustain a clutch style. In other words, if you lose a stock my mistake with 3 stocks, you were pretty much guaranteed to lose anyway.

Thoughts welcomed.

 

[Everence]

From a lucario point of view, I'm against it, mainly because he gets a *bigger* boost if he's 2 stocks down (although that position is not necessarily wanted). i wouldn't mind trying it next ranbat but i'm leaning more towards the 3 stock 3 sets.

i'm still wondering why we have all maps (excluding banned maps) on random for the first set and why we have port aero dive town there (pretty much no warning the cars are coming unless i'm missing something)

 

[CAOTIC]

If Lucario (or just about any other character) is 2 stock down, they are going to lose anyway. Comebacks in Brawl don't come easy.

We have all stages on Random to increase everyone's experience on those stages. There's also little reason why they shouldn't be in random select. Aero Drive cars give no warning, but you should know they come at specific moments. This all comes back to stage experience.

 

[Everence]

yes, whilst it is true that comebacks don't come easily, i think 2 stocks still punishes little mistakes quite alot (as you've already made a point on). it'll probably make players play a lot more cautiously. maybe.

i didn't think aero drive (dive?) was in the legal stages anyway. 'tis a nasty stage nonetheless

 

[CAOTIC]

I wouldn't play cautious if I knew I could win from 2 games down. Actually it'd inspire me to experiment a bit more. Another pro I just thought of:
- Winning the first match is less important in a best of 5 set. In a best of 3, winning the first match is critical to success.

I put in Aero Drive recently, just to be a pain in the butt

 

[Jei Jei]

We have all stages on Random to increase everyone's experience on those stages..

We are all Cao's little soldiers.

Just stage cancel Port Drive, simple.