VaNz Stuff.. about Peach (Tactical Discussion)

[Bing]

Messed around with peaches dash attack to f-tilt today.


Jesus Christ it *****....

 

[MacD]

try to control space, esp mid-long range

at close range peach whoops every character

not link

he's a hoe

 

[choknater]

peach bodies link man

 

[Bing]

Thats one of the few MU's I've never done.. I get a feeling that Link can hold his own down to the massive amount of projectiles he has (aka bomb spamming)

 

[john!]

link is annoying, not quite as annoying as young link, but still annoying

i'd rather go up against almost anyone below ganondorf instead of link/ylink

 

[Silly Kyle]

Lol Zelda is my new secondary/low tier main. She just compliments my playstyle with Peach! I even 3-stocked GG7's Falcon once with her xD

 

[Bing]

Zelda... I dont see how they can be similar other than have devastating fairs, bairs and having Vaginas.

 

[Silly Kyle]

As Peach, I focus a lot on spacing, so when I play as Zelda, spacing lightning kicks is my main defense/offense

 

[Fly_Amanita]

I would just pull a Pink Shinobi if I ever had to play against a Link as Peach in a match that matters. Then again, I'd do that to a lot of ****ty characters.

 

[Silly Kyle]

There are quite a few Links in AZ (Taj uses him now) and you basically just have to throw lots of turnips and jump around a lot to avoid his bull****. It's pretty ez imo

 

[baka4moé]

good to know that others think the link mu is somewhat difficult, or at least annoying XD

 

[thesage]

It's cuz you guys approach him.

 

[King5280]

its pretty annoying.

 

[VA]

I would just pull a Pink Shinobi if I ever had to play against a Link as Peach in a match that matters. Then again, I'd do that to a lot of ****ty characters.

I use Falcon for Link

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

So fc up air oos is pretty awesome

 

[TheSaudiMizer]

I can see that. I think regular FC up air should be utilized on tech reads more too.

On another note, my platform game with Peach is kinda weak. I think I need to shield more often since I get hit trying to run away a lot.

 

[thesage]

up air can be cc'd

 

[TheSaudiMizer]

Damn. Eventually though right? I'll take getting an up air to forward air combo at a higher percent.

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

I am kinda liking fc up air against falcon when he jumps at me but this needs more testing b4 i can honestly say if its useful or not.

Now fc upair oos seems really good imo. Just try it out once in a while instead of nair oos and see what u think about it

 

[TheSaudiMizer]

Well nair is usually more useful because when you're getting pressured they're usually on one side of you when you can get an attack off. Interrupting pressure with an up air seems kinda hard.

But yeah I was just thinking how I don't usually see rolls/tech rolls punished with uair and it sounded good to me.

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

I am not saying stop using nair oos (i still suggest using nair far more then upair oos), just when u feel u can land it try a fc upair oos. Fc upair oos is kinda hard to do but when i land it i often get a solid combo out of it plus it just feels good to land.

Also i have seen people try up air when someone is teching on a platform, its good when u get the hit but u need to be quick and read the tech very well b/c upair doesnt cover the same space as nair

 

[thesage]

Armada catches a lot of people with the uair. I've been doing it recently too.

 

[King5280]

u-air is so good. it combos so well.

 

[TheSaudiMizer]

Yeah it's not the easiest to get on a read either since most people won't roll into Peach anyway. But it combos so well it definitely seems like one of the best options to go for if you have the chance.

 

[VA]

I like djc uair a lotttttttttttttttt at the moment.

 

[Silly Kyle]

I FC up airs like a pro with the c-stick using the claw method

 

[ShroudedOne]

Same here, Kyle. FC uairs are really good, but I don't know about their OoS application, yet.

EDIT: Lol, wtf

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12409744&postcount=1

I used to think that Falcon/Peach was even?

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

So i do fc upair by hitting jump and holding down on the joystick, then i use the palm on the hand that hit the jump button to hit the c stick up. Then let go of jump and the joysick. Its not so hard when u get use to it but it looks pretty weird and my friends i showed it to seemed pretty impressed. (Also its a pretty awesome feel to pull off)

Also lol at old posts srhouded. We all have written things which we would look at and think wtf

 

[Xyzz]

I think at low levels Peach has an advantage over Falcon; he has to be able to space his stuff well and combo her to really pull the matchup in his favor and learn how broken his dumb up air (/nair to a lesser extent) is against her.
Otherwise he'll fall to her edgeguards; also at low levels Peach can get away with simple dash attack spam :D

 

[Wake]

Same here, Kyle. FC uairs are really good, but I don't know about their OoS application, yet.

EDIT: Lol, wtf

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12409744&postcount=1

I used to think that Falcon/Peach was even?

And just look at how far you've fallen.

 

[King5280]

nair just beats out so much of peach's stuff. thats probably my worst mu with peach. and fc uair out of shield would be good if they dash attack your shield or another laggy move where you have plenty of time to punish. uair is so good.

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

Just want to say about falcons nair, the few times i tried a quick fc upair when a falcon is nairing at me i have traded, now i am not sure if i was just getting lucky or they were spacing poorly but its something i want to look into.

 

[john!]

And just look at how enlightened you've become.

agreed, he has learned so much about the game ever since he believed the ridiculous idea that falcon/peach is even.

 

[Wake]

You monster. You fiend.

 

[Bing]

Hey hey Hey. Lets not be saying things we cant take back

 

[King5280]

So i do fc upair by hitting jump and holding down on the joystick, then i use the palm on the hand that hit the jump button to hit the c stick up. Then let go of jump and the joysick. Its not so hard when u get use to it but it looks pretty weird and my friends i showed it to seemed pretty impressed. (Also its a pretty awesome feel to pull off)

Also lol at old posts srhouded. We all have written things which we would look at and think wtf

That sounds a lot harder than it needs to be. It's pretty simple with the z button once you get used to it.

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

It is kinda hard at first but not so bad once u get use to it. Also i think its faster then having to move the joystick up then hit z. I am not perfect with it yet and sometimes i upsmash oos, or full hop upair, and once in a while i might bair by accident but these mistakes r happening less and less. (Also i didnt even think about trying it with z lol)

 

[King5280]

I use Z for all my aerials out of floats. Also for nairs, as well as bairs oos.

 

[Bing]

Nair OoS shield is kinda good.

 

[DoH]

I should probably play this game again