Uzi's Fox 101 ~ A Fox Guide

[Mecakoto]

Wrong board. This is the Fox board. But thanks for the combo tip, I'll try it Weegee later on.

EDIT: Uptiltx2 (Depending on the character) > grab.

Actually, I knew exactly where I was posting this.... I'm well aware that this is the Fox board. Just because I'm a Weegee main doesn't mean I can't have Fox as a secondary. =p

 

[Exceladon City]

Actually, I knew exactly where I was posting this.... I'm well aware that this is the Fox board. Just because I'm a Weegee main doesn't mean I can't have Fox as a secondary. =p

Fox's Usmash doesn't have a sweetspot.

 

[Mecakoto]

Fox's Usmash doesn't have a sweetspot.

Well, I was referring to hitting with the front of the Smash rather then the back. Sorry for the mistake.

 

[Uzima (Uzi)]

i've gone to training mode and up-tilted on bowser and it showed NO COMBO. but if you time it right on mario it works fine, same for meta knight.

**** combo meter is messed up.

 

[Toronto Joe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FgFkOu4xc8

^ why you dont trust the combo meter

 

[Uzima (Uzi)]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FgFkOu4xc8

^ why you dont trust the combo meter

cause thats a trip, the combo meter regesters attack trips as your volnurable, and it keeps the combo meter going, it keeps it going till you get up, that happened all the time when i was doing the nair testing, i could do more than one smash attack before hitting the guy and long after he tripped it would still combo.

 

[Uzima (Uzi)]

Bump,
I've been updating this regularly every day since I made it and have added a bunch more stuff.

Plus if any one has anything they would like me to test, that'd be great.

I've finaly got the decay in training code working, so I got a TON more stuff to test out, to keep an eye on this thread.
I see so freaking much potential from decayed nair its not even funny

 

[Rudementry]

Wow you really put a lotta time and effort into this, good job uzima. I can't wait til I get my fast internet (at&t is installing high speed at my place this week) so I can see some of this stuff pulled off on me in game.

 

[Zhamy]

Wow you really put a lotta time and effort into this, good job uzima. I can't wait til I get my fast internet (at&t is installing high speed at my place this week) so I can see some of this stuff pulled off on me in game.

You have Dialup?

Oh dear.

 

[Rudementry]

Nah, I have the slowest version of dsl possible. Its absolutely terrible. Across the street they have like the fastest internet possible. I live in an old people's neighborhood though, so no one really complained too much about the internet. I've been calling at&t for 7 years trying to get faster internet. Finally I got a thing in the mail saying our neighborhood's internet would go out for a week because they're upgrading it. I don't know the details but it should be faster. I actually did have dial up for quite awhile...

 

[SheerMadness]

Shine>Dash Attack____0%-200%

Shine>up-smash______0%-120%

I dunno man I can't get shine to dash attack or upsmash on anyone. You should post vids of it showing 2 hits.

Until then I won't believe you.

 

[Zhamy]

I dunno man I can't get shine to dash attack or upsmash on anyone. You should post vids of it showing 2 hits.

Until then I won't believe you.

He has. Check his YouTube.

 

[SheerMadness]

Yah I did.

Can anyone get the shine upsmash consistently? I got it a couple times with bowser but it seems like your dash after the shine has to be pritty frame perfect.

Pritty technical for brawl. I like it.

Anyway anything that leads into an upsmash with Fox is worth pursuing. I mean yah, running shines in brawl is really risky since you're guaranteed to get punished if they shield it. But its certainly worth possibly throwing it out there once or twice a match as a suprise. Problem is you gotta be 100% accurate with it the few times you do get it and judging by the combo meter that **** is gonna be really hard.

 

[Uzima (Uzi)]

hell, illusion canceling is pretty **** hard and that can be learned, just keep practicing on different characters.

 

[SheerMadness]

The problem is that we need more information.

I mean if you have to initiate the dash on the very 1st frame possible after the shine thats going to basically be impossible to be consistent with.

If you have 4 frames thats going to be a hell of a lot easier.

You get what I'm saying? We really need frame specific data for all these "true combos".

 

[crifer]

The problem is that we need more information.

I mean if you have to initiate the dash on the very 1st frame possible after the shine thats going to basically be impossible to be consistent with.

If you have 4 frames thats going to be a hell of a lot easier.

You get what I'm saying? We really need frame specific data for all these "true combos".

That won´t work.
It´s like this:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=7261004#post7261004
You can´t learn all the specific numbers...
if the % are like 50-100, it would make sense to list them

 

[JigglyZelda003]

That won´t work.
It´s like this:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=7261004#post7261004
You can´t learn all the specific numbers...
if the % are like 50-100, it would make sense to list them

as interesting as that was it looks almost too complicated to be possible on consistency.

i always thought to get shine>Usmash to work you had to buffer dash aftershining.

 

[Vyce]

You know, one of my favorite things about Fox is that his Utilt juggle is nearly inescapable at lower percents. I like dash attack—Utilt—Utilt—Utilt—Usmash as a really simple way to get 50%+ on the opponent. You can also decide not to use Usmash, but continue with Utilt and use a Dair, which would potentially lead to a jab cancelled grab. One of my favorite combos to use on heavy characters is this: Dash Attack—Utilt—Utilt—Utilt—Utilt—Dair—jab cancel—Grab—Pummel (3 times)— Dthrow—Fair/Dair.

 

[Zhamy]

Dash Attack—Utilt—Utilt—Utilt—Utilt—Dair—jab cancel—Grab—Pummel (3 times)— Dthrow—Fair/Dair.

This is not a combo. Utilt does not combo into Dair if they know how to SDI, CCed Jab does not combo into grab (it's a frame trap), Dthrow does not combo into Fair or Dair (it's DI chasing).

 

[Uzima (Uzi)]

what i have in this list is the jist of what you need to use these combos, just use the information i have collected iany way you se fit.


I dont have Up-tilt>Up-tilt "Combo" in here since it can be fidgety and not work for crap on some characters like luigi while it can **** chars like bowser.

 

[SheerMadness]

Sooo....

Can anyone shine upsmash consistently?

 

[Uzima (Uzi)]

yes..... -.-

 

[SheerMadness]

Can you post a vid of yourself doing it to metaknight in regular speed then?

 

[Uzima (Uzi)]

if i must....

*hooks up capture device*

 

[Toronto Joe]

 

[SheerMadness]

Thanks man.

I can only seem to get it at higher percents when the the shine causes them to fall over, and only occasionaly then. So you're getting it like 100% of the time on all characters?

 

[Uzima (Uzi)]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kxxu1Ar9OY
bam done on meta at 0%


and no im not perfect at it and there are characters it is IMPOSSIBLE or unrealisticaly hard.

 

[Zhamy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kxxu1ar9oy
Bam Done On Meta At 0%


And No Im Not Perfect At It And There Are Characters It Is Impossible Or Unrealisticaly Hard.

WHY HELLO THERE MR. LUIGI 10fixcapsokay

 

[SheerMadness]

I dunno why I can't get it then. What button combination are u using for upsmash?

 

[Zhamy]

You may need to boost smash.

 

[KheldarVII]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kxxu1Ar9OY
bam done on meta at 0%


and no im not perfect at it and there are characters it is IMPOSSIBLE or unrealisticaly hard.

That's some fine work right there.

 

[Uzima (Uzi)]

WHY HELLO THERE MR. LUIGI 10fixcapsokay

the shine>up-smash may be impossible but I got shine>dash attack on LUIGI!
so HAAA

 

[B.A.M.]

hey uzi also add bair > reverse uptilt at low percentages. you have to di towards the opponent. Works best by the edge. it is indeed a true combo. still trying to get that shine > shine again

 

[KheldarVII]

Why would it have to be a reverse U-tilt? You're already facing them backwards.

 

[Uzima (Uzi)]

if you can give me the percents it works on mario, i'll test it and then add it.

I'm to lazy at this exact moment to test right now.

 

[718_ROOKI3]

if you can give me the percents it works on mario, i'll test it and then add it.

I'm to lazy at this exact moment to test right now.

ive been maaaaaad lazy to test, ive just been working on my other characters so i can get better...GANON FTW

 

[Area_6]

I must jump in and say he has been.

Ganon dittos rookie there fun

 

[718_ROOKI3]

i Must Jump In And Say He Has Been.

Ganon Dittos Rookie There Fun

My Ganon Is Godlyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

 

[B.A.M.]

and i will get you the percentages for mario uzi. And Kheldar, yes i know u are already facing backwards. its still a reverse uptilt regardless.

 

[Uzima (Uzi)]

added the bair>uptilt percentages