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Unintended Consequences Mafia: The Saga Concludes

~ Gheb ~

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Gheb are you willing to vote an inactive in the hopes of more contribution? If so, who would you like to hear more from? Personally I'd like TPK to speak up as he's decent in dutch mafias, so would you mind if we'd lay our vote on him?
I think Kevin has contributed the least so far and hasn't done a much more than to feign activity. You down for that?

Vote KevinM

@TPK

I tried to but everytime I did he just kept pissing on my leg.

:059:
 

#HBC | ZoZo

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If you're gonna go on contribution why don't we vote Roxy? or Scamp, who did the same but is blatantly denying it which doesn't sit well with me. Rockin contributed like once or twice too.

Unvote, Vote: Roxy, considering your reasoning you're fine with this, right?
 

Kirby King

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Day 1 Vote Count
Roxy (4): Evil Eye, ChiboSempai, Nicholas1024, Gheb_01/Xonar
Ryker (2): Fatchu, Macman
Macman (2): KevinM, Ryker
Nicholas1024 (1): Scamp
ChiboSempai (1): Virgilijus
Pierre the Scarecrow (1): Moronik

Not voting: Pierre the Scarecrow, The Paprika Killer, Roxy, Rockin

It takes 8 out of 15 votes to lynch.

The deadline is Sunday, March 14 at 11:59:59 PM ET.


Fatchu has been prodded a second time. At some point after 48 hours from now (i.e., when I get around to it), if he still hasn't responded and there's no one to replace him, he will be modkilled. If (and only if) he is town-aligned, this will end the Day, per the rules in the first post.

Players should feel free to invite people who might be interested in replacing to PM me, but (needless to say) you may not discuss the game at all (including anything about or remotely related to your role, topics of discussion, etc., per the game's rules) besides the fact that it's in need of replacements.
 

Nicholas1024

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@Kirby King
After talking to a few people over AIM, I found that Sold2 is interested in replacing.
 

Scamp

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If you're gonna go on contribution why don't we vote Roxy? or Scamp, who did the same but is blatantly denying it which doesn't sit well with me. Rockin contributed like once or twice too.
Blatantly denying what? Provide some evidence that I am.

On the other hand, you've finally provided ONE opinion and it's basically the consensus and a little parroting for backup. Meanwhile you've also proven that you're not paying attention and that you're a wimp when it comes to dealing with this dual vote thing.

I also find it odd that you don't see a single suspicious comment from either Nick or Gheb.
 

Nicholas1024

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Roxy, I know you're familiar with Epic mafia, but I want to see more from you. Who's scum? I don't just want a weak FOS, I want a case and a vote. After 20 pages, you have to have seen SOMETHING suspicious enough for a vote.
 

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Roxy, I know you're familiar with Epic mafia, but I want to see more from you. Who's scum? I don't just want a weak FOS, I want a case and a vote. After 20 pages, you have to have seen SOMETHING suspicious enough for a vote.
I had an FoS on Macman which i stood by. Everything else i find to be things that can be misinterpreted or just regular post picking.
 

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I think Kevin has contributed the least so far and hasn't done a much more than to feign activity. You down for that?

Vote KevinM

@TPK

I tried to but everytime I did he just kept pissing on my leg.

:059:
Sup brah, good to see you're activity policiing.

Really don't like how Nick dropped his case with, EE's case was better then mine.

Surprised no one else thought that was any sorta suspicious.

moronik is fine, he can stay bungle was just looking hella gross.
 

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Multiple people have said it's TvT. Why single out one person?
I'm not singling him out because he said he thinks it's TvT. I'm singling him out because his reasoning for it parrots what people have said before and because he said that he didn't find a single comment between the two suspicious.
 

KevinM

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I'm not singling him out because he said he thinks it's TvT. I'm singling him out because his reasoning for it parrots what people have said before and because he said that he didn't find a single comment between the two suspicious.
I hate when people point out things are TvT btw, I feel like it's just trying to tunnel people into believing a certain alignment.

I did the same thing in Monster Mafia, and it probably would have worked had everyone not been clear from their roles.
 

#HBC | Mac

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Meh, don't really feel like playing this anymore.
Would replace out if Kiki had replacees.
 

#HBC | Mac

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why so much johning chibo? you seemed fine in tourney mafia
ok with chibo dying because I noticed this too. He's also not really annoying me the way he usually does which for some reason bugs me.

Ok with roxy as well because of EE's post and I feel like his FOS on me was unmerited and was him basically parroting what other people were saying without really knowing what he was talking about.

still ok with ryker

virg, ee, nick, gheb are town.
 

#HBC | Mac

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Think scamp is town as well.
Don't see anything wrong with paprika.
Rockin, I need to keep an eye on.
 

#HBC | Mac

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becuz of the way confirmations were this game.
instead of starting d1 right after i got my pm, I had to wait a day before kiki started it, and by then I completely forgot about it.

vote: chibo
 

Kirby King

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Day 1 Vote Count
Roxy (3): ChiboSempai, Nicholas1024, Gheb_01/Xonar
Ryker (2): Fatchu, Macman
Macman (2): KevinM, Ryker
Nicholas1024 (1): Scamp
ChiboSempai (1): Virgilijus
Pierre the Scarecrow (1): Moronik

Not voting: Pierre the Scarecrow, The Paprika Killer, Roxy, Evil Eye, Rockin

It takes 8 out of 15 votes to lynch.

The deadline is Sunday, March 14 at 11:59:59 PM ET.
 

Virgilijus

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Mac, you're not doing yourself any favors in my eyes though I still think there are better lynches. The fact that everyone piped down once mac showed up seems to me that mafia had attention on them and now, seeing an opportunity to hide, did so.

My vote still stays on Chibo.
 

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Ok, I guess I can buy that explanation, The reason I was becoming skeptical was because with discussion starting to ramp up I could see a miller claim be used to route discussion elsewhere.

Further elaboration on the chibo vote?

Nick can still go imo.

Gheb can stay.

Ok with scamp, roxy, nick or Xonar going today.

It feels like there are almost no players in this game.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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No, he voted me earlier. Remember the whole, KevinM FoS:Ryker followed by Macman's vote? Yeah, he just forgot to Unvote first.
 

~ Gheb ~

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I think it's not so much the inactivity that's killing the game but also people's failure to take a clear stance. There were lots of comments about the debate me and Nick had but all of them were very brief jabs that added nothing to the discussion. Like saying "I think Nick vs Gheb is TvS" isn't going to help a lot if you don't elaborate on a.) why you think one of us is scum b.) who of us is scum and c.) what about us has been scummy. A lot of people did it. In fact Rockin's the only one I can think of who actually gave a good eplanation on why I'm higher on his scumlist than Nick, which is a huge reason why I get a town vibe from him (Rockin) despite his relative inacitivty.

I'd like everybody who claimed to think that me vs Nick is TvS to go into detail on why one of us is supposed to be scum.

:059:
 

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you unvoted roxy ee? what the ****

i dont get the macman hate. reading through his posts every time he voted someone i had an easy time believing why he thought that person did something scummy

kevin scamp def shouldnt go today and neither should nick

btw scamp this is the first time ive played with you where ive thought you were good peoples. wanna be buddies this time around?

and i agree with you gheb. this game needs more voting and wagons and less sissies

also nick whats the status with sold2? you said hed be down but he hasnt replaced in?
 

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you unvoted roxy ee? what the ****
I'm guessing this is Marshy based on the typing style. I know exactly how good my argument was, and those things are still bothering me. But the fact is that Roxy's explanation was actually a good one. Everything she said connected the dots for me and helped me see another perspective, and frankly I can't imagine someone that new to forum mafia making such a solid rebuttal if it wasn't motivated by the truth.

Still suspicious, but I don't think she's the best candidate (right now). Wouldn't miss Roxy, either, but we can possibly do better today.

I think you need to let go of grudging it out on people for things that you hate regardless of scumminess, as that's probably the only flaw I've seen in how you play. NL isn't inherently scummy and Epic Mafia johns aren't inherently scummy -- even when they're dumb or indicative of bad play.

I've been holding back on this stuff to try to observe more opinions on Roxy and have more people go on the record. It looks like that well has dried up, so let's look elsewhere and see if Roxy's still the best lead. We have plenty of time left.


I'd like everybody who claimed to think that me vs Nick is TvS to go into detail on why one of us is supposed to be scum.
I'd like that too, and I think it's our most productive avenue.
 

Nicholas1024

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also nick whats the status with sold2? you said hed be down but he hasnt replaced in?
I'm not sure. Something to ask him/Kirby King.

Anyway, big post coming, but first I need a reread.

@KevinM
Elaborate. Why do you think I'm scum and Gheb's town? If you want reasons that I'd switched to Roxy, they were:

1)Evil Eye had made a good case.
2)My case against Gheb wasn't going anywhere.

Might as well have put my vote somewhere else, and Roxy was the best target.

Anyways,

Unvote

pending a reread.
 

#HBC | ZoZo

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Are you guys willing to lynch the most anti-town player if we find no scum candidates? Who do you think is the most anti-town atm, and would you be willing to lynch that person right now if the deadline was moved cuz of shenanigans?

Unvote, Vote: Rockin I want to hear more from Rockin, I know you see Rockin as Town, Gheb. That's a reason to want to hear more from him, right? So basically an activity police vote. Do you want to stay on the Roxy wagon though?
 

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Okay, is Roxy a man or a woman? People keep referring to Roxy as both he and she, and I wanna know the truth.

btw scamp this is the first time ive played with you where ive thought you were good peoples. wanna be buddies this time around?
It would be nice to be friends for a change but first I have to feel comfortable that you're on the town's side, and right now I can't be sure.

I was suspicious of KevinM for a long time now because he seemed to want to buddy up to me pretty much all game long.....right up until his last post where he said he'd be okay with me going right now.
 

Kirby King

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Day 1 Vote Count
Ryker (2): Fatchu, Macman
Macman (2): KevinM, Ryker
Nicholas1024 (1): Scamp
Roxy (1): ChiboSempai
ChiboSempai (1): Virgilijus
Pierre the Scarecrow (1): Moronik
Rockin (1): Gheb_01/Xonar

Not voting: Pierre the Scarecrow, The Paprika Killer, Roxy, Evil Eye, Rockin

It takes 8 out of 15 votes to lynch.

The deadline is Sunday, March 14 at 11:59:59 PM ET.


Fatchu has until 48 hours after he was last prodded to respond. If he doesn't he'll be replaced with Sold2.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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Are you guys willing to lynch the most anti-town player if we find no scum candidates? Who do you think is the most anti-town atm, and would you be willing to lynch that person right now if the deadline was moved cuz of shenanigans?

The most anti-town player is, without question, Fatchu, but he's being dealt with, so I'll move down the list. Next down the list would be the large group of mostly inactive players (as opposed to Fatchu being completely inactive)/coasty players. See Chibo, Rockin, Xonar (who's been getting a free pass on not taking a stance), and Mac.

The latter two (Xonar as of the previous post) seem to be finally taking stances.

I was writing a comment in parenthesis at the end of that when I realized that Xonar really didn't take a stance. He immediately gave himself a cop-out through his comment to Gheb. That way he doesn't have to commit to the Rockin case. This is just an "activity police" vote.

Unvote, Vote, Xonar

You've been using the votelink as an excuse to coast.

However, to answer that question, we first must decide who the most anti-town player is (barring Fatchu), and yea, it's better than throwing it into No Lynch.
 

#HBC | ZoZo

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The most anti-town player is, without question, Fatchu, but he's being dealt with, so I'll move down the list. Next down the list would be the large group of mostly inactive players (as opposed to Fatchu being completely inactive)/coasty players. See Chibo, Rockin, Xonar (who's been getting a free pass on not taking a stance), and Mac.
For as far as I know, this is not the case. I don't ever remembering blaming not taking a stance on my shared vote. Beside that, last 2 EUA (european alliance, shortcut for our VOTING HYDRA) votes were by me.

I was writing a comment in parenthesis at the end of that when I realized that Xonar really didn't take a stance. He immediately gave himself a cop-out through his comment to Gheb. That way he doesn't have to commit to the Rockin case. This is just an "activity police" vote.
3 things I noticed:
How did I get a cop-out through his comment to Gheb? I was asking for confirmation on my vote, I can't go around voting people without asking first, because we're a hydra.
The Rockin case? Which case?
and last but not least 'just' an activity police vote. Have you read my post? If someone (gheb) sees another person (rockin) as town, it means Rockin is at least doing good, right? I love to hear more from someone who does good.


Unvote, Vote, Xonar

You've been using the votelink as an excuse to coast.
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