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Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds

Minato

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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Lei-Lei has 900k health while Sent has 905k.
Oh wow, I really thought that she was a tad higher. My mistake.
Guess Sent still has the highest health on my team.
 

ss118

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God damn it, Gates. Do you play starcraft 2 as well or is there one game we both don't play? =P

Anyway I am terrible so I'm trying to get better. I have PSN so next time you want to play Serris hit me up. ^_^

Currently using a team of Zero/ Dormammu/ Wesker. I really like the members, but not sure about the synergy available to it; basic zero combos -> Wesker OTG does very well for building meter, and I feel Zero/ Dormammu DHCs work well together. Wesker's not as much but I like canceling Cobra Strike with lvl 3 X-factor into the forward heavy infinite.

Also can someone help me with actually finishing combos with wesker as well as how offensive momentum works in general? I'm still having trouble with DP motions, but I use the control stick on the controller and my friend suggested that might be the problem so I might get a stick soon.

Anyway thanks for any and all help. ^_^
 

ss118

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DP is basically Walk forward input hadoken. That's how I got use to it.
I understand the concept of it, but then when I do things like dorm LMHS->Jump->MMHS->Purification, all of a sudden it seems to be a lot harder when I don't have the time to actually walk forward a bit.

Zero/Dorm/Wesker sounds good.

They are DHC friendly.
I don't like DHCing to Wesker. I like aerial comboing into him, though.

Anything specific I should know about the team, though? Any particular synergestic components other than DHCs I'm missing?

Also what assist would be best for zero? I don't like any of them...
 

ss118

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Because all of zero+dorm's hypers knocks them upwards, which means you usually waste a good bit of the hits from Wesker's super.
 

Gates

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AHVB pretty much is a TK HVB.

I love the way Gates calls me Sentinel-kun~

Makes me go :3
I love you too my darling.

You make me go 8======================D

God damn it, Gates. Do you play starcraft 2 as well or is there one game we both don't play? =P
My PC can barely run emulators, so if a game is PC only I probably don't/haven't played it.

Wesker's not as much but I like canceling Cobra Strike with lvl 3 X-factor into the forward heavy infinite.
It's a loop, not an infinite.

And you need to save your level 3 X-Factor on Wesker for America's Favorite Combo (tm) - Combo that ends in a knockdown, 3H OTG, X-Factor, Lost in Nightmare (Level 3). Wesker gets something like 240% added power from level 3 X-Factor, so his Level 3 X-Factored Lost in Nightmare will kill pretty much anyone.

Zero/Dorm/Wesker sounds good.

They are DHC friendly.
I'm really not sure that they are. I mean, they all have one DHC that's super safe, but generally Wesker isn't too good for DHCs. More on that below.

I understand the concept of it, but then when I do things like dorm LMHS->Jump->MMHS->Purification, all of a sudden it seems to be a lot harder when I don't have the time to actually walk forward a bit.
Buffer the DP motion while you're landing.

Also what assist would be best for zero? I don't like any of them...
Ryuenjin is what most people use, Hadangeki is also decent. Zero's assists are only really good if you activated his Sougenmu clone and switched him out. Otherwise they're kinda lackluster.

What's wrong with DHCing into Wesker? He has one of the safest DHCs in the game.
You mean Rhino Charge? It's safe, but it's pretty much just an intermediary between going from one DHC to another. It's good if you have some way of holding the opponent still or knocking them back to continue the combo (like Hypergrav -> Magnetic Tempest -> Rhino Charge whiff -> combo that Yipes does with Magneto and Wesker).

I know you're not trying to say that Maximum Wesker is safe though. That **** gets stuffed like a turkey on Thanksgiving*. It has 0 invincibility. Throw out a hitbox and he'll run into it.

So yeah, DHCing into Wesker in the middle of a combo can be good if you have a way for him to continue comboing, but you can't just DHC into him at random and expect it to be safe like you can with, say, Sentinel.

*Or your mom on Thanksgiving**.
**Or your mom on any normal day***.
***Your mother is a **** is what I'm trying to say.
 

Pitzer

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I understand the concept of it, but then when I do things like dorm LMHS->Jump->MMHS->Purification, all of a sudden it seems to be a lot harder when I don't have the time to actually walk forward a bit.



I don't like DHCing to Wesker. I like aerial comboing into him, though.

Anything specific I should know about the team, though? Any particular synergestic components other than DHCs I'm missing?

Also what assist would be best for zero? I don't like any of them...
Okay, when you Dorm's combo in the air right after the S Connects hold forward till you reach the ground then buffer a hadoken motion bam purification, chaotic flame. Zero assist should be Handangeki. Since Dorm and Wesker teleport it covers them, Especially if you Sogenmu then switch out. Also Stalking fire to Sogenmu Block lock is Gay as **** LOL

You see a Whiffed Maximum Wesker coming out I'd just do Wesker's counter super. Super Flash buffering so lol. I ment it's pretty dhc able since. Rekkoha Dhc Chaotic flame since the chaotic flame will last longer than the rekkoha you can Dhc to maximum wesker before the 30th hit of Chaotic since it'll pop them out. SO the example would be, Zero combo. S, M, M, H, S Rekkoha, first 10-13 hits while opponent's around the middle of the screen vertically, DHC Chaotic Flame, so then you would Dhc around hit number 39-42 then Wesker super. Also You could whiff a counter super then dhc to Chaotic flame. They're pretty good together. I play all three of them.
 

ETWIST51294

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You mean Rhino Charge? It's safe, but it's pretty much just an intermediary between going from one DHC to another. It's good if you have some way of holding the opponent still or knocking them back to continue the combo (like Hypergrav -> Magnetic Tempest -> Rhino Charge whiff -> combo that Yipes does with Magneto and Wesker).

I know you're not trying to say that Maximum Wesker is safe though. That **** gets stuffed like a turkey on Thanksgiving*. It has 0 invincibility. Throw out a hitbox and he'll run into it.

So yeah, DHCing into Wesker in the middle of a combo can be good if you have a way for him to continue comboing, but you can't just DHC into him at random and expect it to be safe like you can with, say, Sentinel.

*Or your mom on Thanksgiving**.
**Or your mom on any normal day***.
***Your mother is a **** is what I'm trying to say.
STFU I REFUSE TO BE WRONG AND DONT TALK ABOUT MAH MOMMA. dbdbideydeydceidcebih
 

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Also, I'm sad some of you guys are thinking MODOK is garbage. He has way too much potential and attributes to take advantage off. Just because he doesn't mash short for a hitconfirm followed by launch MMHS -> OTG xx super after 5 minutes in the lab doesn't mean he's automatically bad.
 

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Neko were you watching that Andre vs Marn video today? The commentary was hilarious, but Marn *****es too much.

EDIT: And PTZR keeps giving me the **** in this game :(
 

o-Serin-o

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He seems to john about too much ****. And that's maddd annoying.

EDIT: I don't know who all is a beast with who, so someone gimme a quickie on who all is the best with who.
 

ETWIST51294

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Mags Wesker Viper.

And Marn doesnt have a bad rep for that, he has a bad rep because hes really, REALLY cocky. REALLY cocky. He also talks a lot of ****.
 

Yaya

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Every GG player in the world also wants him to stop existing for ruining Guilty Gear at Season's Beatings (not 100% what year it was.)
 

Gates

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Marn is a very talented player.

He's also an *******.

Every GG player in the world also wants him to stop existing for ruining Guilty Gear at Season's Beatings (not 100% what year it was.)
Seasons Beatings 2.

From the comments in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9caTktglhUI&feature=channel_video_title
at season beatings 2 I believe he was in charge of the GG tourney this fat sack of **** disappears people are waiting for the tourney to start and he is no where to be found he comes back high out of his mind and decides to run the tourney 3hrs late and when people look at the brackets they were rigged so that it could be him and FlashM in the finals then during the tourney before losers he calls a break because he wanted to look at a jwong money match that he was betting on so they players got tired of the bs and decided to cancel the tourney it was a of money and time because people traveled hundreds of miles to get there
 

GHNeko

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EDIT: I don't know who all is a beast with who, so someone gimme a quickie on who all is the best with who.


So far, imo

Zero = Marn
Mag = Marlinpie
Tron/She = Jwong
Ammy/Doom/Phoenix = Clockwork
Hulk = Mike Ross
C. Viper = MarlinPie
Sent = Capcom
Spencer = Combo
Gorath = P. Gorath
Felicia = James Chen
Dante = Richard Nyugen
Trish = Flo




and that's all i can really think of/come up with
 

Kuraudo

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Wow... I'm...almost ashamed to be a Zero player now. Not even going to lie. ALMOST. Because as a big fan of the MMX series in general, I won't let some top pro prick be the deciding point of who I use.

Just whenever I do become good and compete, I wanna be known as a good Zero player, not just a "Marn follower".
 

Thrillhouse-vh.

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"I don't let characters pros like influence which characters I like. I'm also almost ashamed to be a Zero player because top players pick him"

Nice bro
 

GHNeko

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wtf @ marn.

welp there goes all my respect

loool i've been looking up to him since TvC UAS too.

****ing lol


EDIT: and apparently somethign happened at EVO finals for GG too. anyone mind clearing that up?
 

Kuraudo

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"I don't let characters pros like influence which characters I like. I'm also almost ashamed to be a Zero player because top players pick him"

Nice bro
You misunderstand me. XD I'm almost ashamed to play Zero because if I do, and if I wind up being good, I may be associated with or compared to Marn and his Zero. I don't want that to happen. I wanna be my own player and not just in someone else's shadow because he started it first. Don't like to follow after the jerks is all. XD
 

Gates

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So far, imo

Zero = Marn
Mag = Marlinpie
Tron/She = Jwong
Ammy/Doom/Phoenix = Clockwork
Hulk = Mike Ross
C. Viper = MarlinPie
Sent = Capcom
Spencer = Combo
Gorath = P. Gorath
Felicia = James Chen
Dante = Richard Nyugen
Trish = Flo

and that's all i can really think of/come up with
Justin's Tron is not that good. ClakeyD has a much better Tron imo. Justin does have one of the best Wolverines though, even though he rarely plays him anymore.

I need to look up MarlinPie's Magneto to see if it's actually better than Yipes' right now.

Wow... I'm...almost ashamed to be a Zero player now. Not even going to lie. ALMOST. Because as a big fan of the MMX series in general, I won't let some top pro prick be the deciding point of who I use.

Just whenever I do become good and compete, I wanna be known as a good Zero player, not just a "Marn follower".
Are you ****ing serious? And if so, are you ****ing stupid?

You shouldn't let ANY of that decide who you main. The only thing that should decide who to main is how your playstyle fits in with each character. If Zero fits your playstyle, then play him no matter what. The only reason to not play a character is if playing as that character doesn't feel natural. You shouldn't worry about what pros also play your character. If anything it can only help you since you'll get to see what combos they have that are effective, how they handle certain matchups, general strategy, etc.

Not only that, but what you're talking about also ALMOST NEVER HAPPENS IN MARVEL. OR ANY OTHER GAME. Do you know how many people played MSP in MvC2? Do you think they were all Yipes or Fanatiq followers? Of course not, and nobody acted like they were. How many people played Santhrax? Tons, but none of them were considered to be copying Sanford Kelly (especially when Sanford himself stopped playing that team). How many people main Ryu in SFIV? At least 1/3 of everyone who plays the game. Are all those people copying Daigo? Or Alex Valle? or Air? Of course not. The conclusions you're coming to are such great leaps that Evil Knievel couldn't make them. Just play who you want.

And besides, people will only think you're meatriding a pro player if said pro is actually likable and has a fanbase. Marn isn't likeable and doesn't have a fanbase because he's an *******. In fact, if you gathered all of Marn's fans together, you'd have enough people to lift him (maybe). If you gathered everyone who hates Marn together, you'd have enough people to populate a city. I was about to say a small city, then I realized that if you factored in all the random service workers who hate Marn, you'd probably have enough people to populate Chicago, or at least Detroit. Marn is easily the most hated player in all of fighting game history. He's more hated than the following people ever were combined:

Justin Wong
Sanford Kelly
IFC Yipes
Chris Matrix
Neo
Fanatiq
Clockw0rk
DarkPrince
John Choi
Alex Valle
Mike Watson
Mike Ross
Gootecks
Ricky Ortiz
FilipinoChamp
Wolfkrone
Tomo Ohura
Any Japanese player
Seth Killian
Mike Z
M2K
Mango
Ken
George Lucas
Hitler Stalin

There is not a soul alive on this planet who likes Marn. You could go to the furthest corners of the Earth searching for a Marn supporter and you would come up emtpy-handed. He punches babies. One time he spit on a homeless man. He's a *******.

Point is, because nobody likes him, nobody will think you're trying to copy him.

tl;dr - Play who you want, dumb****.


wtf @ marn.

welp there goes all my respect

loool i've been looking up to him since TvC UAS too.
Seriously? I've been looking DOWN on him since TvC.

I remember when the game came out and I was like "Zero is such a scrubby character that any idiot can be successful with him". And then Marn won Evo and I was like "Thank you for proving my point, fatass".

EDIT: and apparently somethign happened at EVO finals for GG too. anyone mind clearing that up?
Marn used Eddie?

idk what happened there.
 
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