grayfox
Smash Champion
ROFL Pro stirring the **** so much
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UK player thoughts on how to improve your game; for the UK :)
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Professor Pro
Smash Legend
Why would I do that?
Kone
Smash Master
Lets get away from sdb and back on topic ^_^....how can the uk get better? =x
Bullet Bill
Smash Master
whats this *****ing about me pro? 
I'm pretty sure I wasn't talking to you but W/E. And yeah I did say all that and do think SDB are pretty smug though I like pretty much everybody in it. But I'm not gonna say anything more about that lol. I'll talk to people on MSN if they want though
My insight- I think motivation is the key word here and charles and pro have a lot of it. Another HUGE reason they were in the final as well is the scene. London has a very vibrant smash scene and it's not just because of the concentration of players, it's because there are a lot of people willing to play, improve, get better and host events. For me a lot of the credit goes to Charles as he runs of helps run a lot of the ranbats, hosts smashfests and even buys tickets for Londoners to UK tournaments. For Joe and me I think it's the same. Joe doesn't seem it a lot of the time, but he is well motivated when it comes to smash and puts a lot of thought into the game. Without wanting to put London on a pedestal too much though, I think there definately are other regions that have been growing. the North west has now a very large brawl scene and still has a strong melee scene. I've been lucky enough to come across some good players of my own in southampton and I've put plenty of effort in to make sure we get to play regularly. The south west as well- V.A. has been playing with a bunch of smashers for a while now and he's definately contributed good players to the scene, swizzy for example. I myself just like to win and like to play well at melee so I've always been climbing slowly but surely climbing up the mountain of improvement cos I just like the game too much XD.
Now the melee scene especailly. has a lot of new players joining so I think it's good that there are still older players and good players still playing as the new guys need to learn stuff from somewhere
thats what I think at least. Hope that was usefull
I'm pretty sure I wasn't talking to you but W/E. And yeah I did say all that and do think SDB are pretty smug though I like pretty much everybody in it. But I'm not gonna say anything more about that lol. I'll talk to people on MSN if they want thoughMy insight- I think motivation is the key word here and charles and pro have a lot of it. Another HUGE reason they were in the final as well is the scene. London has a very vibrant smash scene and it's not just because of the concentration of players, it's because there are a lot of people willing to play, improve, get better and host events. For me a lot of the credit goes to Charles as he runs of helps run a lot of the ranbats, hosts smashfests and even buys tickets for Londoners to UK tournaments. For Joe and me I think it's the same. Joe doesn't seem it a lot of the time, but he is well motivated when it comes to smash and puts a lot of thought into the game. Without wanting to put London on a pedestal too much though, I think there definately are other regions that have been growing. the North west has now a very large brawl scene and still has a strong melee scene. I've been lucky enough to come across some good players of my own in southampton and I've put plenty of effort in to make sure we get to play regularly. The south west as well- V.A. has been playing with a bunch of smashers for a while now and he's definately contributed good players to the scene, swizzy for example. I myself just like to win and like to play well at melee so I've always been climbing slowly but surely climbing up the mountain of improvement cos I just like the game too much XD.
Now the melee scene especailly. has a lot of new players joining so I think it's good that there are still older players and good players still playing as the new guys need to learn stuff from somewhere
thats what I think at least. Hope that was usefull
Fuzzyness
The Reality!
playing is understanding and learning
im not sure how the other regions are gonna get players though.. I just kept hosting events and the word spread and it eventually grew
im not sure how the other regions are gonna get players though.. I just kept hosting events and the word spread and it eventually grew
Bullet Bill
Smash Master
you pretty much said it
Professor Pro
Smash Legend
I'm pretty sure he typed it.
Bristols_link64
Smash Cadet
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I can't say a lot seeing I'm only just looking to get into the "scene" now. However this sort of thing can be said for all sorts of games and well anything really to be honest. You can practice on your own all you want, but in the end you are going to reach a certain skill limit that will be extreamly hard to pass on your own.
Once you start playing new/different people who have a different play style you kind of learn from them and start to adapt, slowly getting better and hopefuly learning some new things. It shouldn't matter if the new people you are playing are better than you or not. The fact that they are brining something different should slowly start to make an impact.
Now if you were to find people that are a lot better at you at something and you play with them a lot, you will get better a hell of a lot faster. I'm guessing this is why new guys starting up in London improve at the rate they do. They have a lot of quality players with different play styles around them that they can learn from.
In your case kone, you do not have much in your area. i'm guessing its the same in my area seeing as I've never found anyone local to play before. Just one friend who didn't mind the game. Even then I was a lot better than him at the game so I really wasn't improving at all after a certain point.
To your main question now though of how you can get better with what you have? I'm sorry I can't really answer that for you right now. Seeing as I am looking for the same thing. Thing is if you want something bad enough, sooner or later you are going to get it.
Once you start playing new/different people who have a different play style you kind of learn from them and start to adapt, slowly getting better and hopefuly learning some new things. It shouldn't matter if the new people you are playing are better than you or not. The fact that they are brining something different should slowly start to make an impact.
Now if you were to find people that are a lot better at you at something and you play with them a lot, you will get better a hell of a lot faster. I'm guessing this is why new guys starting up in London improve at the rate they do. They have a lot of quality players with different play styles around them that they can learn from.
In your case kone, you do not have much in your area. i'm guessing its the same in my area seeing as I've never found anyone local to play before. Just one friend who didn't mind the game. Even then I was a lot better than him at the game so I really wasn't improving at all after a certain point.
To your main question now though of how you can get better with what you have? I'm sorry I can't really answer that for you right now. Seeing as I am looking for the same thing. Thing is if you want something bad enough, sooner or later you are going to get it.
Kone
Smash Master
Alex - a car full, so five at the most. How come?
Ben - I dont mind the sdb stuff. We are pretty smug or can be or mainly I can be lol. But its more like a large social group if anything of people that spend time together at and outside of tournaments. It cant be classed as elite if there are 29 members tho =x
This is a bit of a half arsed response but playing is key. Your access to people to play and variety is essential. Ive laid out my arguments as to why Im knacked on that front. Proper shame :/
Ben - I dont mind the sdb stuff. We are pretty smug or can be or mainly I can be lol. But its more like a large social group if anything of people that spend time together at and outside of tournaments. It cant be classed as elite if there are 29 members tho =x
This is a bit of a half arsed response but playing is key. Your access to people to play and variety is essential. Ive laid out my arguments as to why Im knacked on that front. Proper shame :/
Bullet Bill
Smash Master
hmmm. Imo your peach is still very competitive, just your lack of playing and the bad draw at SHS that let you down. My new crew is whats improving me now, they are newish players that are improving a fair bit all the time so when I play them I have to respond to that and it's very good for improving your game
Kone
Smash Master
I still feel very competitive. Theres only a handful of players in the UK that I perceive as currently out right unbeatable, namely; charles, jam and pro (albeit I haven't played edwin, chrisboi, frostbyte,VA).
At SHS I lost to ;
Z - 2-1 and I choked and counter picked badly.
Jam - never beaten in a tournament set in seven years :/
Joe - close games though we had played our fox/peach matchup a lot in the prior two weeks and he has the match up on me. Ive also not played a fox player in sometime that is that good at the matchup.
Aiko - Im going to completely john here. I played terribly and had already determined I was not making the bracket. This is one of only three sets (matches) in all the tournaments Ive been to that I simply don't think I should have lost and that I feel I was in control of and that I lost the match (wasn't "beat").
I beat ryan 2-0 as well (close close though)
Other than that from friendlies and general viewing I think any tournament sets between myself and you ben/will/swizzy/last dragon/craiigg etc would be very close.
My gripe is that Im getting annoyed as I can see that Im not improving and others are. In the not so distant future im going to be really suffering at tournaments if I dont do something about it. Not having someone to play really effects that, however, I think for the first time in a while im motivated to get better.
From what ive read over the last few pages I think a lot of what people have been saying is motivation is key to improvement. I guess that is obvious but I feel like ive got 'real' motivation back. Lets ee where it leads ^_^
At SHS I lost to ;
Z - 2-1 and I choked and counter picked badly.
Jam - never beaten in a tournament set in seven years :/
Joe - close games though we had played our fox/peach matchup a lot in the prior two weeks and he has the match up on me. Ive also not played a fox player in sometime that is that good at the matchup.
Aiko - Im going to completely john here. I played terribly and had already determined I was not making the bracket. This is one of only three sets (matches) in all the tournaments Ive been to that I simply don't think I should have lost and that I feel I was in control of and that I lost the match (wasn't "beat").
I beat ryan 2-0 as well (close close though)
Other than that from friendlies and general viewing I think any tournament sets between myself and you ben/will/swizzy/last dragon/craiigg etc would be very close.
My gripe is that Im getting annoyed as I can see that Im not improving and others are. In the not so distant future im going to be really suffering at tournaments if I dont do something about it. Not having someone to play really effects that, however, I think for the first time in a while im motivated to get better.
From what ive read over the last few pages I think a lot of what people have been saying is motivation is key to improvement. I guess that is obvious but I feel like ive got 'real' motivation back. Lets ee where it leads ^_^
Cpt.Zeppo
Smash Lord
Lol Ed I think you are improving. When we played at GGT2 the matches were very similar but it was 2-0 instead of the 2-1 at this tournament. Problem is, without regular playing we tend to fluctuate in matches, playing some great and others ****, as the consistency goes.
I think I can do most of the essential practice by myself and the rest is obtainable ie. go to London, Brighton whatever to practice. I was never making plain excuses with the London stuff, it was more of a retrospective view in relation to how much time I put in. Attitude is still the most important thing. Gotta put the hours in and get the muscle memory down Every great player has put alot of time into what they are good at, even if they never meant it. Ie Azens general video-game experience helped him become extremely good at Melee very quickly.
A lot of the guides on improvement in Melee are very shaky and are based around the sort of self help malarky usually putting everything into brackets like '4 steps' or 'the key to melee improvement'. I recommend taking them with a pinch of salt if you ever choose to read them. Just be self-aware, understand the game as best you can and be completely honest about where you're going wrong. Follow the metagame! I stopped doing all that for a while and it shows.
I think I can do most of the essential practice by myself and the rest is obtainable ie. go to London, Brighton whatever to practice. I was never making plain excuses with the London stuff, it was more of a retrospective view in relation to how much time I put in. Attitude is still the most important thing. Gotta put the hours in and get the muscle memory down
Every great player has put alot of time into what they are good at, even if they never meant it. Ie Azens general video-game experience helped him become extremely good at Melee very quickly.A lot of the guides on improvement in Melee are very shaky and are based around the sort of self help malarky usually putting everything into brackets like '4 steps' or 'the key to melee improvement'. I recommend taking them with a pinch of salt if you ever choose to read them. Just be self-aware, understand the game as best you can and be completely honest about where you're going wrong. Follow the metagame! I stopped doing all that for a while and it shows.
I was gonna see about asking my parents for housing but I'm not so sure my mum would be happy about 5, I'll ask later on today if you want or I'll see if she's out at anytime.
J03
Smash Master
my input is that every player is different and appraoches the game is different ways. only certain people will find things like guides useful and to different degrees.
i agree with Z that metagame is of major importance, i also think its like the cosmopolitan and to follow it like a Blond bimbo follows her magazines is idiotic. it teaches you whats hot and whats not but the most important thing is to be aware of it not so much follow it but take advantage of it when other people do. As when people follow a preset way of playing smash they've lost before they start.
i agree with Z that metagame is of major importance, i also think its like the cosmopolitan and to follow it like a Blond bimbo follows her magazines is idiotic. it teaches you whats hot and whats not but the most important thing is to be aware of it not so much follow it but take advantage of it when other people do. As when people follow a preset way of playing smash they've lost before they start.
VA
Smash Hero
I'm only able to keep going because my best friends play. At uni I play with Jam when I can and otherwise not at all, (occasionally practicing alone). I do get better though and it's due to my attitude and focus when I do practice with or without people.
EDIT: I didn't realise this had turned into how to get UK good thread. here's some **** about how I got good with some general tips of mine afterwards. ego trip yes please.
I think that for me there were a lot of question marks when I began hitting top 5 spots in tournaments. I still didn't know the ins and outs of DI, certain mechanics were still a mystery to me. When I got to Canada I was getting fully ***** to start out. I noticed how bad my DI was and I sat down and read thread upon thread about DI. I now have a very good understanding of DI and it really shows in my game.
After that reading I began reading other stuff, looking at hitboxes and studying frames. I learnt all the applications of the inputs in the game and how they can be used with each character (c-stick dodge buffering, Shine out of Shield with C, Z for nair as Fox). What I'm trying to say is that reading, watching and implementing is a long and arduous process but it serves you so well in the game. My biggest strength is knowing where I go wrong, I can see every mistake in a game I play and what I can be doing better, I believe this comes from having a strong understanding of the game.
Keep up with metagame! There are always new tricks to try out and work into your game, don't see something and think "I kind of know how to do it", sit there and learn it until you fully understand how it works.
Solo training is very good! If you are playing a character that has any technical skill required, I'd say this is a must. Just sit there and get that lvl 3 peach/falcon/fox whatever on. Practice marths chain grab, practice FC's as Peach. Practice getting SHFFL aerial to shine consistent with Fox. I just put music on and practice for about an hour sometimes (I'm doing it now).
Get those basics down! Don't allow yourself to think your l-cancelling is just OK, or nearly good. Or your wavelanding works 78% of the time. These things are so essential and ****ing them up can let you down hard in tournament. So make sure you have these so down that you never mess up.
Know your match ups! As Samus I systematically worked through the match ups, learning what do and where. Know the use of ALL your moves against ALL the characters. I gave samus up when I came to a match up I knew what I was doing in but it didn't help, I lost anyway. At this point it was obvious that I needed to change as I'd reached my limit with her.
Don't do stupid things!As obvious as this sounds this is so so so important. If you know something works, do it. If you think it might work do NOT do it. Ok that's a strict guideline but it's not meant to be a literal thing 100% of the time. Just be aware that going for a safe option rather than a risk will often pay off.
Know and understand options! I wasn't aware why marths throws were called a grab game for a long time. I thought it was because he was good at grabbing and that meant he had a grab game. Now I'd like to think that every throw he does creates a game in itself.
My example of this goes as follows.
Marth throws Fox on 0% in the center of FD.
Fthrow > can regrab (no tech)
Dthrow > Fox can tech away, towards or on the spot or no tech.
Fox can:
No tech ---> Fsmash
Tech on the spot ----> timed Fsmash
Tech towards ----> Regrab
Tech away ----> tech chase regrab
Bthrow = fairly similar to Dthrow albeit not exactly the same but I'm lazy and don't really know why you'd Bthrow on 0 rather than Dthrow, I think it has something to do with his margin for DI being less so he's easier to regrab or something? I don't know.
Uthrow > Start CG? again I'm not sure I think he can DI and tech, maybe not but you definitely can't CG falco on 0 so he has a chance to tech.
That could be slightly wrong but it's not really that important. I'm just trying to use it as an example.
Anyway this applies to many many things in the game, learning the outcomes of your moves and where they can tech will help you a lot. You won't have to rely on reactions and can make educated reads and guesses with a better understanding.
I hope this helps!
EDIT: I didn't realise this had turned into how to get UK good thread. here's some **** about how I got good with some general tips of mine afterwards. ego trip yes please.
I think that for me there were a lot of question marks when I began hitting top 5 spots in tournaments. I still didn't know the ins and outs of DI, certain mechanics were still a mystery to me. When I got to Canada I was getting fully ***** to start out. I noticed how bad my DI was and I sat down and read thread upon thread about DI. I now have a very good understanding of DI and it really shows in my game.
After that reading I began reading other stuff, looking at hitboxes and studying frames. I learnt all the applications of the inputs in the game and how they can be used with each character (c-stick dodge buffering, Shine out of Shield with C, Z for nair as Fox). What I'm trying to say is that reading, watching and implementing is a long and arduous process but it serves you so well in the game. My biggest strength is knowing where I go wrong, I can see every mistake in a game I play and what I can be doing better, I believe this comes from having a strong understanding of the game.
Keep up with metagame! There are always new tricks to try out and work into your game, don't see something and think "I kind of know how to do it", sit there and learn it until you fully understand how it works.
Solo training is very good! If you are playing a character that has any technical skill required, I'd say this is a must. Just sit there and get that lvl 3 peach/falcon/fox whatever on. Practice marths chain grab, practice FC's as Peach. Practice getting SHFFL aerial to shine consistent with Fox. I just put music on and practice for about an hour sometimes (I'm doing it now).
Get those basics down! Don't allow yourself to think your l-cancelling is just OK, or nearly good. Or your wavelanding works 78% of the time. These things are so essential and ****ing them up can let you down hard in tournament. So make sure you have these so down that you never mess up.
Know your match ups! As Samus I systematically worked through the match ups, learning what do and where. Know the use of ALL your moves against ALL the characters. I gave samus up when I came to a match up I knew what I was doing in but it didn't help, I lost anyway. At this point it was obvious that I needed to change as I'd reached my limit with her.
Don't do stupid things!As obvious as this sounds this is so so so important. If you know something works, do it. If you think it might work do NOT do it. Ok that's a strict guideline but it's not meant to be a literal thing 100% of the time. Just be aware that going for a safe option rather than a risk will often pay off.
Know and understand options! I wasn't aware why marths throws were called a grab game for a long time. I thought it was because he was good at grabbing and that meant he had a grab game. Now I'd like to think that every throw he does creates a game in itself.
My example of this goes as follows.
Marth throws Fox on 0% in the center of FD.
Fthrow > can regrab (no tech)
Dthrow > Fox can tech away, towards or on the spot or no tech.
Fox can:
No tech ---> Fsmash
Tech on the spot ----> timed Fsmash
Tech towards ----> Regrab
Tech away ----> tech chase regrab
Bthrow = fairly similar to Dthrow albeit not exactly the same but I'm lazy and don't really know why you'd Bthrow on 0 rather than Dthrow, I think it has something to do with his margin for DI being less so he's easier to regrab or something? I don't know.
Uthrow > Start CG? again I'm not sure I think he can DI and tech, maybe not but you definitely can't CG falco on 0 so he has a chance to tech.
That could be slightly wrong but it's not really that important. I'm just trying to use it as an example.
Anyway this applies to many many things in the game, learning the outcomes of your moves and where they can tech will help you a lot. You won't have to rely on reactions and can make educated reads and guesses with a better understanding.
I hope this helps!
Kone
Smash Master
I haven't read what you posted yet but I think it would be good if a mod (charles???) renamed this thread to something like; "Thoughts on improving your game from UK players for the UK" or something similar.
Professor Pro
Smash Legend
You created the thread so you could do it yourself by editing it lol.
Kone
Smash Master
Can't edit the title
Professor Pro
Smash Legend
Yes you can lol.
Press edit and then go to the advanced edit thing.
Press edit and then go to the advanced edit thing.
Kone
Smash Master
Advanced thinking, well done. How about any thoughts on the actual topic at hand? mr 2nd best in the UK? or is it all fluke =s
Bullet Bill
Smash Master
apart from the life story I thought VAs post was quite good. I don't agree with the don't do stuff if you think it might work though. you gotta be creative and try unorthodox things in friendlies and even sometimes in tournament games.
VA
Smash Hero
you read that wrong then, I'm saying don't do stupid things. Like I have done so many times. I've thought **** this might work, done it cos it worked in friendlies, it failed and I SD. THAT is what I'm talking about, don't think like that and yeah once you're good enough go for crazy **** but most of the time winning is about being safe. Don't leave yourself open and such.
Kone
Smash Master
Don't do stupid things!As obvious as this sounds this is so so so important. If you know something works, do it. If you think it might work do NOT do it. Ok that's a strict guideline but it's not meant to be a literal thing 100% of the time. Just be aware that going for a safe option rather than a risk will often pay off.
I agree with robby is saying here over what Ben said. Only use what works, if you are guessing at it then it is unlikely to work. You may get lucky once or twice but this won't change the fundamental flow of a match. I understand and agree definetly with knowing your options. Playing safe I agree with partly. A lot of players tends to opt to playing the safe option too often. Players like myself and joe take advantage of this. If I know a matchup to a degree that I know a top player will perform a certain movement " x amount of times" as its the safest option then Ill punish your safeness. Players just need to be aware of what is the safest option, when to abuse it and when you are getting caught for being methodical. However, the latter suggestion should be obvious and if you aren't noticing patterns in your opponents game its time to start observing more
I agree with robby is saying here over what Ben said. Only use what works, if you are guessing at it then it is unlikely to work. You may get lucky once or twice but this won't change the fundamental flow of a match. I understand and agree definetly with knowing your options. Playing safe I agree with partly. A lot of players tends to opt to playing the safe option too often. Players like myself and joe take advantage of this. If I know a matchup to a degree that I know a top player will perform a certain movement " x amount of times" as its the safest option then Ill punish your safeness. Players just need to be aware of what is the safest option, when to abuse it and when you are getting caught for being methodical. However, the latter suggestion should be obvious and if you aren't noticing patterns in your opponents game its time to start observing more
Professor Pro
Smash Legend
I love how you think implying that I am not second best will be an incentive for me to post on the subject to somehow prove I am lol.
But the majortiy of stuff in this thread has been said and I am VERY LAZY to do one of them long posts when I break everything down and describe things and stuff and this and that so I will just do this lol.
Funny enough I got better by playing spkz and v3x? when they were about fast where I thought everything was just about tech skill and then once I got ***** by Fuzzyness and Frostbyte my tech skill was already really high and I realized I just had to become a smarter and a better player overall.
So I just analyzed vidoes of what to do in certain situations and started inputting my own stuff into my gameplay which is why I pull out random stuff which other players don't really do sometimes.
People need to realize their own mistakes in their gameplay and actually how to improve on it imo, it's always good to ask people what they kept punishing or what they thought you were doing wrong or you what you was not consistent in cos sometimes people can't always see their own mistakes.
That is my brief input lol.
Kone
Smash Master
I didnt try imply you weren't second best =s. However you said some nice nuggets of advice. In fact, probably your most informative and post worthy response EVER *pats pro on the back*
Professor Pro
Smash Legend
loool Well I guess all I can say is thank you.
I will try to make most of my post useless from now on then so that one post stand out on my record lol.
I will try to make most of my post useless from now on then so that one post stand out on my record lol
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VA
Smash Hero
Basically what I was saying in "don't do stupid stuff" is don't do something if you aren't sure it's going to work in tournament. Don't throw ****ing caution to the wind because 90% of the time it's not worth it. Yes pull out those quirky tricks you use in friendlies but only in the right situation.
Kone
Smash Master
^ I agree completely with that. Your post was really good robby, you got more ?
?
VA
Smash Hero
I do have...a lot more. But it's character specific from now on and I don't feel like I should give away all my secrets! They are mine after all.
Kone
Smash Master
Lol i want your secrets give me them now!
Professor Pro
Smash Legend
lol Your secrets would be funny to hear.
Cpt.Zeppo
Smash Lord
The don't do stupid stuff is too right lol. The flashiness of the game can get people over-excited. Greater tech skill will enhance your options and increase your knowledge of the character, so reacting and adapting naturally becomes easier! Gone are the days we argue mindgames vs tech skill bull**** lol.
Also completely agree with Joe. I can understand the appeal of trying to make your playstyle fit in a nuance, but in the long run if you ignore any of the fundamentals of the metagame, you are simply making it less likely you will win.
Also completely agree with Joe. I can understand the appeal of trying to make your playstyle fit in a nuance, but in the long run if you ignore any of the fundamentals of the metagame, you are simply making it less likely you will win.
Professor Pro
Smash Legend
Great tech skill allowed me to take advantage of certain opportunties.
But combining the mindgames and being an overall smart player with the great tech skill shoots you through the roof and allows you to become a great player and truly allows you to take advantage of alot of situations
Often technical players who aren't smart tend to get caught up in the 'beasting' a player from stock to stock but often end up getting punished themselves.
We have quite afew of them in London (deathgazer lol)
I try alot of random stuff in important matches but I actually know they will work depending on the stage of the positioning of the character. Knowing the limits of how stupid you can be is very important cos stupid things do catch people off sometimes. Like walking up to someone and grabbing them or many other stuff lol.
J03
Smash Master
Pro: i used to think your playstyle was flashy and with too many unnecessary movements, my perceptin has since changed. When i watch you play i find it more interesting the effect you have on your opponent, by throwing in extra shines and linking high damage attacks to low ones you effectively hound your opponent by clouding their ability to predict you as there also having to think and anticipate any surprise moves you throw in. I have adapted my own style (stole shiz from you muhaha) and im already noticing substantial improvements to gaining an intellectual edge over my opponents, as such i would like to thank you and keep up the good work ^_^.
VA: im looking forward to our next encounter, i know ive improved but i dont know you, nor your style or your thought processes. i dont care who wins, i just know itll be a competitive high tension clash ^_^. i expect you to have the edge but that wont stop me =D.
Z/VA/Pro/Ed: dont do stupid things sounds like a combo title, we should look into it. On the matter however i think theirs a fine line between stupidity and brilliance and a finer line between stupidity and unpredictability. There is no such thing a the perfect playstyle, the game constantly evolves. I like looking over past variants of the metagame and seeing what would still work now, what wouldn't (and why) and what ways you can counter them. Its a great mental workout ^_^
Charles: your mindset at the moment is understandable but flawed, i think being on the top for so long has affected your thinking, you get better because the metagame improves which is the minimal amount to improve by, people are catching you, little by little, you need to find your flaws that i see as plain as day, that it the best way to improve. I just think your not as likely to spot them because not many people are good enough to abuse them to the extent to win
PS. im going now, if anyone needs me, call or text ^_^
Ed: update me on your fest when you can man.
VA: im looking forward to our next encounter, i know ive improved but i dont know you, nor your style or your thought processes. i dont care who wins, i just know itll be a competitive high tension clash ^_^. i expect you to have the edge but that wont stop me =D.
Z/VA/Pro/Ed: dont do stupid things sounds like a combo title, we should look into it. On the matter however i think theirs a fine line between stupidity and brilliance and a finer line between stupidity and unpredictability. There is no such thing a the perfect playstyle, the game constantly evolves. I like looking over past variants of the metagame and seeing what would still work now, what wouldn't (and why) and what ways you can counter them. Its a great mental workout ^_^
Charles: your mindset at the moment is understandable but flawed, i think being on the top for so long has affected your thinking, you get better because the metagame improves which is the minimal amount to improve by, people are catching you, little by little, you need to find your flaws that i see as plain as day, that it the best way to improve. I just think your not as likely to spot them because not many people are good enough to abuse them to the extent to win
PS. im going now, if anyone needs me, call or text ^_^
Ed: update me on your fest when you can man.
Kasper!
Smash Lord
Is there going to be a brawl version of this thread??
Kone
Smash Master
Im pretty sure most of what has been said in here can be transferred to brawl?
COEY
Smash Lord
Seing as how brawl is basically melee made easy, then most of it should apply yea. Well except for all the stuff about practicing tech skill...
Kone
Smash Master
Yeah as will said lol. Or you could just pick melee up. It does actually have a competitive scene with national tournaments unlike brawl :/
Bullet Bill
Smash Master
actually brawl is fairly different to melee I thought that was obvious. And brawl has a pretty good competitive scene. I agree with Ed though, a lot of this stuff can be used for brawl as it's more about mental stuff.
I thought that was obvious. And brawl has a pretty good competitive scene. I agree with Ed though, a lot of this stuff can be used for brawl as it's more about mental stuff.