Cello, let me be honest with you.
You may be fairly good normally, (as shown in popcorn, werewolves), but this game I think you've played extremely badly. You've been pushing lynches over small meaningless stuff (the logs thing, roxy checking the thread before the game started), and basically used the idea of stumping yourself to get a townie to stump. Not that pressure is a bad thing, but you need to learn Xivii's concept of a surface-level scumtell.
About Jester/Nick:
In Jester's one post, he claims that he wants to prevent lumberjacks from getting nightkills, but also claims to want to wait until Day 2 to start stumping. When asked about this, he gives no response, and instead replaces out. I think newer players as scum are much more likely to quit in this fashion (compared to town), since they don't want to drag down their teammates.
I can't answer for why he wanted to wait until Day 2 to start stumping. Perhaps its because he wanted to keep overly aggressive people from stumping left and right and putting us near mylo before we have a lot of information. (glances meaningfully at Cello)
Also, the newbie scum replacing out thing is crap. Guus replaced out early D1 in UCM, he was town. (In fact, EE tried playing that exact same card against Virg (who replaced Guus) late-game.)
In his large post, using Chibi cat's system, many times his awarding of points seems arbitrary and contradicting. For example, I was given a -1 for being pushy, but nothing added or subtracted for essentially saying "I think [name] is town, but I want to lynch him" or for when I said I lied and he said he didn't like it at all. He also gives tHe-Man +2 points in a "quality post" in which tHe-Man said he agreed that Pierre was scummy but doesn't say why (he, in fact, never has). Further, almost all of the points added and subtracted are for me and tHe-Man.
You've been way too pushy this game. I mean, you've been heavily involved in all three of the townie-stumpings, including your own. We're only 25-some pages into the game, and if Pierre turns out to be town and gets modkilled, we'll be in LYLO. (And then you'll try to get me to stump for the game-loser.)
So I wasn't entirely consistent with my numberings. The output I gave was still correct, I thought the_man was town, that you were scum, and a lot of other people were close to neutral.
Also, is it any surprise that most of the points added and subtracted would be for the two players that had been extremely active and had a large impact?
It's as though he knew who he would be focusing on and only bothered to award points to us, especially since I got deductions for "being pushy", making a point that Nick misunderstood, requesting an extension (is that really a scummy action to you Nick?)
Yes, wasting our one deadline extension in D1 when we have the least information IS scummy. Wait until we need it. For example, in UCM on the second-to-last day, we could have used that deadline extension.
and I was the only person to receive a deduction for a point someone else made. I ended at -3, whereas Roxy, Brockin, Omis, and SSBF were at -1. But, he couldn't exactly support my stumping if someone else had a worse score than me, could he?
Sure I could, you'd just be a secondary target.
Consider that his current scum reads include Pierre for pushing against Heatstroke then backing off. Where was the criticism of that early on? Also,
Um, I'm pretty sure I mentioned in my first quality post that Roxy's reading the thread thing was indeed something pointless to lie about. After reading further, seeing how it ballooned and forced a townie to stump, I thought it scummier.
Is that why you were pushing for him? (Rhetorical)
You're talking here as though you know Pierre is town.
I was thinking worst-case-scenario there for a second. You know, game-losing (or nearly so modkill), which this could end up being.
@Summoner
Which people would you stump to clear?
@Cello again
As far as me trying to find a replacement for someone... I was considering replacing out. I only replaced into this game because Marshy asked me too, my heart wasn't really in it at first. Still though, now that I've (nearly, still need to read pages 21-26) caught up, I think I'm in it for the long haul.
@Everyone
Give me your top 3 scum reads, reasons behind them, and how they'll be influenced should pierre flip town or scum.
For me, it'd be
SSBF,Pierre,Omis
(reasons detailed in my last large post)
I don't remember a lot of SSBF's interaction with Pierre, I'll have to reread for him.
If Pierre flips town, Summoner would shoot down into my scum reads, as summoner basically attached to Cello early game, when Cello was suspecting Pierre, Brockin and Roxy (all of whom would be town in this hypothetical situation.) Omis would also stay down in my scum reads, due to every single one of his targets in his lynch list flipping town.
If Pierre flips scum, Summoner would edge towards the townie side of my radar, and Omis would still be down in my scum zone, as Pierre was only #4 on his lynch list. (As a scum, I'd be happy trading 1 buddy for 4 townies, which would be what Omis would have managed).
