Empyrean
Smash Champion
While he may not be top 3 material, I also want to point out that Ally has a very good MK too. That adds another contender to an already stacked list.
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Seagull Joe
Smash Legend
The owner of this thread makes me lol. He just updates it daily with no reason for anything.
Why isn't Disqo on the
list? DLA is good, but Disqo is better. If this was a top 5 list then it'd look like this:
1. Junebug
2. Boss
3. Disqo
4-6 DLA/me/Luck
Why isn't Disqo on the
list? DLA is good, but Disqo is better. If this was a top 5 list then it'd look like this:1. Junebug
2. Boss
3. Disqo
4-6 DLA/me/Luck
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Errr, thanks I guess.The owner of this thread makes me lol. He just updates it daily with no reason for anything.
Why isn't Disqo on the
1. Junebug
2. Boss
3. Disqo
4-6 DLA/me/Luck
Apparently Vex was using Ganondorf in this tournament, and if that's true, that means he managed to take out Oracle. If that's not true, then I'll be reversing the spots real quick. And I don't really change the spots daily, but I do update the OP with new videos daily.
Also, I heard at the end of the tournament someone said that ESAM isn't even Top 5 in Florida. If that's true, who's Top 5 other than Plup and Wizzrobe? @NickRiddle ???
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Oracle
Smash Master
Disqo is in texas atm He can mm luck for the 3rd spot
Ah, okay I'll make that change. Guess I got caught up with the hype too fast.
ES Lite
The Real Slim Shady
I placed 65th at SKTAR 3
placed like...13th or something at a tournament in Jersey called hitbox arena
As far as video I have a set against Xzax: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZiH9X9oU8Q
I should have a set against Strongbad on the tourney locator youtube page
Thats really all I have thats recent
placed like...13th or something at a tournament in Jersey called hitbox arena
As far as video I have a set against Xzax: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZiH9X9oU8Q
I should have a set against Strongbad on the tourney locator youtube page
Thats really all I have thats recent
Considering your a main, I guess that's better than what Vanguard has.
Do you guys know of any other Samus'?
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Hungry Headcrab
Do you have a Ganon? Any notable results?
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Infinitysmash
Also, I can't thank you enough for recording those sets. Huge HUGE shout outs.
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so when am i going to be in front of reflex on the wario list
kayb, SKTAR's PM finals are up now, if you need em
shoutouts to chibo's 2900th video being That Mewtwo killing gods
shoutouts to chibo's 2900th video being That Mewtwo killing gods
I'm assuming you haven't looked at the OP yet.
ES Lite
The Real Slim Shady
ESAM is the best imoConsidering your a main, I guess that's better than what Vanguard has.
Do you guys know of any other Samus'?
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Do you have a Ganon? Any notable results?
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Also, I can't thank you enough for recording those sets. Huge HUGE shout outs.
I've met MonkUnit and another player named NSD I think? I have horrible memory
Besides those I dont think I've seen any other samus mains as of late
Infinitysmash
Smash Champion
Thank you for the shout out :D
I'm just here to help further an already awesome community
IC's tho.
Wolf impressed me a lot, I think he is the best Link. I think either Nick Riddle or myself is second(probably nick). IE didn't impress me as much as I thought he would. I lost a close money match to him, but I also lost to every single link player I played haha I am *really* bad at link dittos apparently. From watching him play others that I've played and talking with those who played him and me I don't think he's top 3(though he's still good, just a ****load of good link players). I honestly have no idea how Nick and I compare because I didn't see any of his matches ;_;. I had a really hard bracket(Mango/Esam/Zero were in my winnners in a row) but I took Mango to game 3 and went 1-1 with him as Link(I lost first game as Lucario). I lost an absurdly close set to Bleachigo in losers but I don't feel bad about it, bleachigo was very good and impressed me(Esam was telling me bleachigo took him to 3rd game and was really good which made me feel better). I money matched K9 and Prof and lost to them both but 4 stocked K9 game 2 and took 1 game from Prof. Esam is abbbsuuurrdddllly good btw lol, sooo impressed with his play.@Oracle , @HyperrCrow , @
Strong Badam , @
Hylian , @Professor Pro , @Zerudahime , @ELI-mination , @Gallo69 , @Sethlon , @Vanguard
Thoughts on tournament and certain players?
Thanks. I'll be making updates when I can.
As far as the MK's I played every single one of them at the venue. Plup is still the best probably just looking at how he does against florida and K9/Infinity are veryyy close but I think K9 was slightly better just because he was better at gimping people(though infinity played much better in bracket and is a more consistent player). Lawnchair was really textbook/solid(like amazingly so) but I don't think he was as good as the 3 mk mains I listed. He was the 4th best of all the ones I played though and really impressed me even though I only played friendlies with him.
Yeah man, had a lot of fun talking with youNo footage of me, most people never got on stream, I loved playing Link dittos with all the Link mains, me and Eli only managed 1 friendly unfortunately but it was fun(as much fun as you can have playing against Luigi lol)
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... Didn't you say you were extremely good at the ditto?
Yes, and I was wrong lmao. I also thought I was bad against spacies but did amazing against them at sktar so idk what to think about match-ups anymore.
Edit: I also for some reason did the best against every player I played with IC's. Like..either no one knows the match-up or they are somehow secretly good lmao.
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it's not like there's exactly ICs players out there
prolly won't be until certain things are fixed up, too. idk about the five people willing to main ICs in project m, but I probably wouldn't want to delve too deep into execution if the grab release points are going to change all over again
prolly won't be until certain things are fixed up, too. idk about the five people willing to main ICs in project m, but I probably wouldn't want to delve too deep into execution if the grab release points are going to change all over again
ZSS.
No IC's vids I think :/. I played really well with them against people but alas. I have some recent ones on my youtube that I'll find though.
Really hope I get to see the sleepers at this tourney again. They really surprised me.
Sleepers being
Seibrik
MVD
Bleachigo
Raptor
Vex
Lazy
I'm curious who Lazy used. He beat Gurukid, so he must be pretty damn good. And Seibrik and Salem put in WORK at this tourney holy ****. The Zelda mains (Seibrik, Salem, and Zhime) are really tearing up the brackets.
I dunno if Oracle actually thought Rudy was a random, I doubt he knew how sleeper good Rudy was though. The man will bash things with Ganon. I'd actually put him as #1 Ganon atm besides maybe some hardcore main like Bizarro?
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Empyrean
Smash Champion
Ganon is life. Y'all thought he sucked ass.
I would assume he was Ganon. I don't know for 100%, since I was earlier wrong when I assumed he only went Ganon for the entire tourney (since he went Fox on Inui, it's possible he went Fox elsewhere). I talked to him earlier and I think at least 1 game was Ganon, if not both. I'll see if I can find it again
Really though, I would put total faith in the idea that he's #1 Ganon and probably a top 10 player in PM when he's playing his best. The skill he has in Smash overall has consistently been high, and as of recent it's even stronger.
Really though, I would put total faith in the idea that he's #1 Ganon and probably a top 10 player in PM when he's playing his best. The skill he has in Smash overall has consistently been high, and as of recent it's even stronger.
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Infinitysmash
Smash Champion
Vex very, very nearly beat Junebug with Ganon and would have but when Junebug SDed he gave him a 'respect' stock and ran off the side as well. The video for it just finished uploading and you can find it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ilt1F-akmD0&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ilt1F-akmD0&feature=youtu.be
Hungry Headcrab
Smash Ace
I most certainly do have a Ganon, though I doubt I'm top 3 material yet.Considering your a main, I guess that's better than what Vanguard has.
Do you guys know of any other Samus'?
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Do you have a Ganon? Any notable results?
My only notable results thus far is 9th at Northwest Majors VI (losing to SFAT and Blunted Object), 1st at a new monthly in WA called the Olympian (where none of the top players in our state were in attendance, lol), and I've been consistently top 8 at GameClucks for a few months now.
Videos:
NWMVI:
vs. Oreo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlslrVFAWlU
vs. SFAT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YINZZm5wjXI
Olympian:
vs. Blu2 (WFs): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjB0RF39_Yo
vs. Chevy (GFs): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwIXSUPP9Sc
Make of this what you will, but, again, I doubt I'm top 3.
OH, and I know of another Samus: Chevy from the GFs video above. I'm obviously biased since he's a great friend of mine and training partner, but I am absolutely positive that he's a better Samus than Vanguard, especially if he hasn't been playing the character seriously since the boot.elf ditto. Unfortunately, he doesn't have the best results, so most of this is based on playing with him for countless hours. He's been fairly consistent top 8 at GameClucks, second at the Olympian (again, none of our tops were in presence), and 17th at Northwest Majors VI.
Here's a video of him playing Bladewise a few months ago, he's improved a lot since then, so take it with a grain of salt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b83j_8HC5RE
Hot damn, finally finished updating the OP with SKTAR 3 videos. That took like half an hour.
Lawn Chair
Smash Journeyman
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Just curious were do you think he is stronger than me? I.E: Better mindgames, edgeguards etc.
The_NZA
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Just curious, but why did Selbrik take KDJ's spot? I realize KDJ didn't compete in PM at Sktar (dropped out before it started) but his Zelda has only ever been beat by Mew2king. He's never lost a set to Wolf, Hey Seuss, Darc, Zoso, Sora, or anyone else at Smashing Grounds. II realize its theoretical, but I can't see him placing anything below top 16 or top 8 at Sktar 3.
Regardless, I get that he hasn't played his Zelda at a National tourney. Hopefully, when he does, you'll be ready to place him equal to, ahead of, or slightly behind Zhime.
Regardless, I get that he hasn't played his Zelda at a National tourney. Hopefully, when he does, you'll be ready to place him equal to, ahead of, or slightly behind Zhime.
Infinitysmash
Smash Champion
He plays faster, his execution is better, and his ability to recognize patterns in people's gameplay and punish them for it is better.
Infinitysmash
Smash Champion
Can you add these two as well please?
Infinity vs Rolex @ SKTAR3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWa6r7pC8vM
Infinity vs Professor Pro @ SKTAR3 (incomplete money match) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ytvPinNDfU
Rizner
Smash Ace
I agree with nza - some people have low placing from sktar because they dropped out, and I think kdj was one of those. It should be taken into account before he is removed. Are there any videos of the others who placed well at sweet? How much was shiek used from them? I'd say it goes at least zhime, kdj, then it's a toss up.
I know I've been underperforming as of late so I do understand me being removed for now, but hopefully I get some good videos and results from sweet this weekend to get back up in the mix.
I know I've been underperforming as of late so I do understand me being removed for now, but hopefully I get some good videos and results from sweet this weekend to get back up in the mix.
Hungry Headcrab
Smash Ace
Wait, now Junebug is on the Ganon list? Why the sudden changes?
DrinkingFood
Smash Hero
Because LeeLue was the third spot on the list, and I have literally heard NOTHING from him since this list first came out. Unless people can vouch for him.
I'm also still waiting on news about Vex. I'm getting confused if he really did beat Oracle with Ganon. If so, that's a damn impressive victory.
I actually wasn't aware of these results, thanks for the heads up.
That being said, Seibrik did take out some big names at SKTAR 3 including Pink Fresh and Infinity, and generally placing high in nationals and defeating players who aren't in your region hold more weight. But... I guess I have to rethink this list again. siiiigh Maybe I'll wait until KDJ goes to another major...
btw, if you guys want to take a look at the SKTAR 3 bracket, here you go:
http://challonge.com/sktarpm1
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I beat Neon in a GnW Ditto Friendly, once
It was on stream, can i be on list nao?
It was on stream, can i be on list nao?
I really wish KDJ got to compete. Wolf is still a mid level player and caused a lot of upsets. KDJ beats him pretty easily. Seeing as how Wolf got 17th, KDJ definitely had the potential to get top 8.
Also, IE placed equally to you and beat you in Link dittos. So it's quite possible he's better than you too.
You bragged to me once about being competitive for 11 years. The joke is on you, because you are beatable by newbies. You've taken games off some of the better players too, but so have all of us. PM is a jank game right now and stuff like that isn't uncommon. What matters is consistency and you don't have it.
You're being carried by how much the average player sucks at dealing with boomerang, hook shot, and spin attack. I don't suck at dealing with those, so I would be happy to MM you at the next tournament we are both in attendance for again and expose how highly fraudulent your Link is with Ganon/Marth. I was gonna leave you alone after your hilariously subpar performance at sktar compared to the other Link mains, but you're back to your old tricks and I see this as a wonderful opportunity to expose your fraudulence.
lmao. Hylian, you're fraudulent as ****. Sol is only entering his 6th month of competitive smash, and not only did he beat you in Link dittos, he placed equal to you in bracket. Wolf and his practice partner have been playing for a little more than a year, and Wolf made a convincingly stronger showing than you.
Also, IE placed equally to you and beat you in Link dittos. So it's quite possible he's better than you too.
You bragged to me once about being competitive for 11 years. The joke is on you, because you are beatable by newbies. You've taken games off some of the better players too, but so have all of us. PM is a jank game right now and stuff like that isn't uncommon. What matters is consistency and you don't have it.
You're being carried by how much the average player sucks at dealing with boomerang, hook shot, and spin attack. I don't suck at dealing with those, so I would be happy to MM you at the next tournament we are both in attendance for again and expose how highly fraudulent your Link is with Ganon/Marth. I was gonna leave you alone after your hilariously subpar performance at sktar compared to the other Link mains, but you're back to your old tricks and I see this as a wonderful opportunity to expose your fraudulence.
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